Delta777-XXX From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1017 posts, RR: 7 Posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2302 times:
I was at Hartsfield spotting from the parking deck on Saturday.
Sometimes the parking lot security guy stops me and talks to me for a sec and then goes on his way. Well, this guy told me that I had to stop taking pictures. I told him that I wasn't going to because I was on public property. He asked me for my ID, looked at it, and told me again that I had to leave. I told him that I had been going there for 2 years taking pictures and that I wasn't leaving. He was persistent and told me again that I had to leave. I was sooo mad!
I told him that I wanted his first and last name and then I wanted his managers name... and telephone number. He wouldn't give it to me. I told him that unless he got the police or his manager up there, I wasn't going to leave. So he starts talking to people on his radio giving them the information on my ID. HAHA! Then he tells me that it's okay that we're taking pictures. Okay great, we were done.
So 30 mins later, I'm still taking pictures. This Jeep stops beside me and a guy gets out and walks up to me with a badge. He said he was a sky marshal and wanted to know what I was doing out there. He questioned me for about 10 mins. I finally got a little rude and said, "look, this is public property. I'm a 16 year old kid from north GA and I have every right to be taking pictures here." So then he tells me that he can make me leave if he wants, because it's a matter of national security, but that he doesn't feel I'm a threat so he's gonna let me stay.
About this time the Lufthansa A340 took off and I, of course, missed shooting it. I was sooo mad! I told the guy that he made me miss the one plane that I came out to get, and he started laughing at me!
2912n From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 2013 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2205 times:
What I was getting at, and Thomas followed up with, is that the Dept of Justice would probably be a little irritated if some security guard was identifying himself as a "Sky Marshal"...So if this were to happen again and the guy flashes a badge you can point out that it is a violation of Federal Law to impersonate a federal officer.
Jcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 38
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2206 times:
The same thing happened to me except I was reffered to the police, and had to talk to the chief of the airport precinct. He told me that it was against TSA regs to take pics of a/c. I just gave up...oh well, moved to DFW about 2 weeks later.
Continental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5529 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2119 times:
TSA is NOT good, it's a "cosmetic" change. Private to Federal!! HAHAHA,, ohh, the federal guys, ohh! GEt a load of the people who think TSA is the greatest thing ever. http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/995296/6/ I thought that TSA was suppossed to be perfect, instead they're sleepin', lettin' people through ( I got through security without a ticket twice), and just being lazy!
AAGOLD From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 550 posts, RR: 49
Reply 14, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2086 times:
I think you handled the situation badly and, in doing so, you risk the chance of making a bad situation worse. I was at ATL in Sept. and was aware of problems that were reported there with security and shooting from the parking deck. What I did was go and talk to the airport police, they have an office by the Marta, and inquired about taking pictures. I was told that it was OK, but if requested should be prepared to show my id. I spent several afternoons on the parking deck and was visited a few times by the security guards. I had no problems.
You're right that it's public property and you feel you have every right to be there, but they, I'm sure, have the right to oust you from the property if you have no legitimate reason for being there. By being argumentative you risk the chance that they'll go back and come up with some stupid rule that photographs aren't allowed on the property. I'm not telling you to be a whimp and not stand up for what you believe are your rights, just use a little more common sense and try not to make the situation worse. You won this time, but will you next time.