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Can Anything Be Done With These Photos?  
User currently offlineDC-10 Levo From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3432 posts, RR: 3
Posted (11 years 8 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5268 times:

 Smile Hi everyone!  Smile

Last Saturday, I took a trip to EMA, and got some photos. I came back and uploaded them and they looked pretty good. I did a couple of jobs in Microsoft's Picture It! and they looked even better. I tried uploading them at Jetphotos.net and they failed, so I won't try uploading here until I fix them.

Here are the rejected photos at jetphotos.net:

1) http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject.php?id=37132
BMIBaby 737 - terrible quality. Can anything be done?


2) http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject.php?id=36910
Another BMIBaby 737 - bad quality.

3) http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject.php?id=36897
Rejected: too far away.

I cropped the one that said too far away and the quality was terrible!

4) http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject.php?id=36235
Still too far away.

5) http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject.php?id=36232
And the plane is cut off here, nothing can be done with this.

So, they tell me the plane is too far away. I crop it to make the image closer and it comes out looking like number 2! What am I doing wrong? Can anything be done with those photos?

Thanks for your help.

DC-10

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User currently offline2912n From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 2013 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5219 times:

Ashley, Are you using the digital zoom on your camera? That would in part explain why the photo quality is so bad. What type of camera are you using?

I would suggest you read up a little bit on shooting planes, (here is a very good article....
http://warbirdaeropress.com/ that will answer some of your questions.

I like the take off angle of the BMI, but your camera seems limited. For that type of shot you need an actual telephoto or zoom lens. NEVER use the digital zoom which just wrecks the quality.

Tony


User currently offlineDC-10 Levo From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3432 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5200 times:

I have the Fuji S602. I don't know if I'm using the digital zoom or not. I don't even know how to turn the digital zoom off if I am using it Big grin.

DC-10


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9644 posts, RR: 68
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5206 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

RTFM

User currently offlineDC-10 Levo From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3432 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (11 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5163 times:

What do you mean Clickhappy?

DC-10


User currently offline2912n From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 2013 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5089 times:

Okay. As Clickhappy said, #1 go read the manual for the camera. You are probably shooting at a high aso, like 400.

Read the manual, learn to operate the camera, take a couple of hundred shots of your house, animals, parents, friends etc...then go out and take photos of airplanes.

I think you are setting yourself up for frustration and will wind up leaving a nice little camera locked up in a drawer somewhere becuase it "takes crappy photos." Without trying to sound rude or arrogant...learn to be a photogrpaher first. Then worry about what you are doing wrong so that you can't get photos uploaded. Take some time to learn and you are onto a great hobby.

Tony


User currently offlineLjungdahl From Sweden, joined Apr 2002, 908 posts, RR: 36
Reply 6, posted (11 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5059 times:

RTFM - "Read The Free Manual"

(Aaah, too slow writing a comment - again...)

[Edited 2003-03-02 21:14:55]

[Edited 2003-03-02 21:15:50]

User currently offlineLGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4995 times:

I wouldnt use the word Free for the F in RTFM  Big thumbs up

Ben Pritchard


User currently offlineLjungdahl From Sweden, joined Apr 2002, 908 posts, RR: 36
Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4904 times:

Ben,

I know what you're thinking about, I had the same thought, but I refuse to write it in this thread...


User currently offlineDC-10 Levo From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3432 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (11 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4896 times:

Ok I just clicked. Read the (swear word) manual.
Ok, I shot with ISO 100.

And I have read the manual, but I don't understand half of it.

DC-10


User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4856 times:

OK, well the photos displayed are almost certainly write-offs.

First piece of advice, as already stated, is Read the F***ing Manual. There is also some interesting stuff about the Fuji S602 here:

http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/fuji/finepix_s602-review/

It seems that the camera is 3.1mp, which should be enough, and has 6x zoom lens on this camera is the 35mm equivalent of 35-210mm. The zoom may be limiting in some cases at East Midlands - it depends where you shoot from.

In terms of reading the manual, it would seem sensible to firstly make sure that you're shooting Fine or Hi resolution, 3M (the review suggests a lot of noise at 6M). This will mean large files, but you can resize them down to 1024, probably with the software in the box(?). It would also be sensible to be shooting at 160ISO, and certainly not at 800ISO where it appears the camera drops the resolution to 1MP (eek!) which will definitely not be good enough for airliners.net or jetphotos.

Probably the most limiting factor is the maximum length of the zoom, but with a bit of care in being in the right places it shouldn't be too much of a problem. I would NOT however recommend shooting stuff that appears really small in the viewfinder, and then making a very agressive crop later - the resolution delivered by the camera is probably not enough to support you doing that and achieving a reasonable result. If its too far away, probably do not shoot. My suspicion is that this camera will produce some reasonable results, and the key thing is learning how to use it properly.

Andy


User currently offlineDC-10 Levo From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3432 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (11 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4817 times:

Thanks for the tips Andy. I'll be off to EMA next weekend and I'll see what results I get then.

DC-10


User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4718 times:

DC-10 Levo said: I'll be off to EMA next weekend and I'll see what results I get then

Ashley,

I'd offer to join you and see if I could help in person as East Mids is my local too, but next weekend I will be in Las Vegas. Some other weekend perhaps? I'm quite often at East Mids weekends, as I usually fly one of EMFS's PA-28 Warriors (G-CDON or G-BPRY) once a fortnight.

Andy


User currently offlineGocaps16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4347 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (11 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4659 times:

DC-10 Levo, another helpful tip. Please keep your camera steady while you shoot, avoid sudden or abrupt body motion. That is probably why your pictures are really blurry.

Kevin



SIX T'S!......TURN. TIME. TWIST. THROTTLE. TALK. TRACK.
User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (11 years 8 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4475 times:

About the DHL 727 pic: are you sure you're using a shutter speeds that's hig enough? If not, try to pan with the aircraft. If you don't know how to do it and achieve good sharp pics, try using a high shutter speed (~1/500th)...

I'll be honest with you: it seems like you have a lot to learn. But don't worry. Everybody has to start somewhere. I remember when I made my first pics, they turned out to be really bad because I didn't have the experience I have now. There's only one way to lear: by taking pictures (and since you have a digicam you don't have to worry about developing costs etc...). Also, try to read this forum as well as some others (e.g. general photography or some forums at http://www.dpreview.com ).

I 'm sure your result will improve in no time. Good luck!!!

Ivan



Ivan Coninx - Brussels Aviation Photography
User currently offlineDC-10 Levo From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3432 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3821 times:

Thanks for all your help guys. I'll keep you posted on what results I get.

DC-10


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