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MCO Re-open Spotting/photo Facility  
User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 23
Posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2010 times:

I emailed MCO yesterday to see if there was any possibilty that i could use the terminal top parking when on holiday in Florida , if i produced documents. This was due to the fact that on the main website it stated that "spotting was not allowed until further notice".It is with great pleasure that as of today (and the website) i received the following answer.

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You will be glad to know that Aircraft Spotting has just been reinstated at
Orlando International Airport. Please see the information on our web site
at www.orlandoairports.net/goaa/faq.htm#aircraft_spotting

Jerry Harris
Webmaster/Research Manager
Marketing Department
Greater Orlando Aviation Authority
Orlando International Airport
(407) 825-3133
www.OrlandoAirports.net
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What with FLL reopening its looking good again. Thats if nothing changes mind you !!!!!

LHRSIMON


Canon 1D Mk III,Canon 20D+17-40 L f4.0,70-200 L IS USM f2.8,400 L USM f5.6,135 mm L f2.0, 50 mm f1.8,1.4 x II extender
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User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3915 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 1995 times:

That is great news!

I just hope that good will on the part of airport operators spreads west to IAH one day.

Thomas



"Show me the Braniffs"
User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5042 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1977 times:

Excellent idea. i think every airport should do this. Even Houston. if they know who is going to be there then there should not be a problem.

Now, what can you see/shoot from the 9th floor of the garage? Anybody have an example of a shot taken from there? it would really bite if they gave people permission and then sent them to an area that allows poor view for pictures.

bruce



Bruce Leibowitz - Jackson, MS (KJAN) - Canon 50D/100-400L IS lens
User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3915 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1973 times:

Wow......

I guess I should have read the web site before making my original post. Seems like MCO wants to make spotters go through hoops in order to get access to just to one spot. I mean if filling out these forms allowed a spotter access to all of their old hangouts, then it would not seem so bad. However just one spot with medicore photo ops.....I don't know!

Oh well, I suppose it's better than nothing.

Thomas



"Show me the Braniffs"
User currently offlineNonRevKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1969 times:

Now, what can you see/shoot from the 9th floor of the garage?

Nothing. It's all too far away. MCO can go F themselves. I'll shoot from all the regular spots, and there really isnt a thing they can do about it. It's still a public place, and this is still America. Besides, I'd like to see them tell an airline employee that they're not allowed outside an airport.

Brian - SPOT THIS!


User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5489 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1960 times:

I have no problems filling out forms etc I am ALL for that, but being limited to the 9th floor of the parking deck is a crock of steamy poo. You can WATCH the planes from up there but that's about it. The only way to spot here is to get an airline job, and even then I'm sure they would still hassle you.


User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

Well i thought it was a step in the right direction... And at least it's showing a bit of give and take on their part. Im not sure what hassle you photo guys get arround the perimeter to cover your side of things,but im more into the old fashioned number/spotting so im more than happy with the car park. Good view of everything to log.....

All MCO needs now is a Photo area like FLL then were all happy.

LHRSIMON



Canon 1D Mk III,Canon 20D+17-40 L f4.0,70-200 L IS USM f2.8,400 L USM f5.6,135 mm L f2.0, 50 mm f1.8,1.4 x II extender
User currently offlineNonRevKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1948 times:

All MCO needs now is a Photo area like FLL then were all happy.

Yea, that's something that's not gonna happen. MCO seems ready to break off from the US and form it's own communist society.

It's kinda personal for me cause it was one of my home airports, and I have so many good memories there. Seeing that fence on McCoy Road was like looking through a prison fence.

Lemme email MCO and tell them how much I appreciate them "allowing" me to do something perfectly legal on public property.  Insane

Brian - SPOT THIS!


User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5489 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1940 times:

I am writing Jerry about my thoughts, and hopefully he can FWD it to the right people. Restricted to the parking garage is garbage.

User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1939 times:

I gather from your reply that you get problems arround the perimeter then ??? I often feel how you do with regards being treated like some sort of criminal up to no good,when im on public land doing no one any harm. But its the same here in London, if you get the wrong security chap on the day there no point trying to argue with him. And if you complain it just makes it worse. At least if im spotting up on the car park at MCO (after getting the pass) and some jobsworth comes up to me , at least i have a little piece of paper that tells him to sod off and go bother someone else.....

These are trying days for the spotter and photographer alike... Do birdwatchers get this sort of crap !!!!



Canon 1D Mk III,Canon 20D+17-40 L f4.0,70-200 L IS USM f2.8,400 L USM f5.6,135 mm L f2.0, 50 mm f1.8,1.4 x II extender
User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1934 times:

Dazed767. Lets be sensible about this. There no point getting up their nose when they don't have to do this. They could have kept the Level closed just like they have at LHR, and say sod the plane photo/spotters. OK the Parking level is no good for you guys but for spotting its great. And at the end of the day they at least they had the decency to email me back and confirm the new policy. You try getting a polite answer like the one Jerry Harris sent me out of LHR security !!!! At least the airport is not on lock down like LHR.

This system is nothing new for MCO. As far as i am aware this system has been in place for quite a few months (Passport etc etc and can only view from level 9). It was only when you went to code orange that MCO stopped any spotting. Once again they have only gone back to the system already in place. And i again stress they don't even have to do this...

LHRSIMON




Canon 1D Mk III,Canon 20D+17-40 L f4.0,70-200 L IS USM f2.8,400 L USM f5.6,135 mm L f2.0, 50 mm f1.8,1.4 x II extender
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6285 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1917 times:

So wait, you couldn't watch from the parking garage????? Oh big deal, you can't see anything anyway. You guys should come over to TPA. We've had NO restrictions since 9/11.


Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1915 times:

Yep did TPA last year but from the airside departures as flying back to the UK. And yes your right i had not problems with my bino's & camara spotting & taking photo's for 3 hours !!!


Canon 1D Mk III,Canon 20D+17-40 L f4.0,70-200 L IS USM f2.8,400 L USM f5.6,135 mm L f2.0, 50 mm f1.8,1.4 x II extender
User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5489 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1903 times:

There is a parking lot at Delta Air Logistics, great to take photos at by runway 17. Twice I've been told to leave, or that the Police are on their way to investigate (investigate what!?). I think the Use of Facilities Form is a great idea, but it shouldn't be limited to just the 9th floor of the parking garage (that's what I included in the email). I also pointed out that FLL has a viewing lot and MIA has holes in the fence for photographers, and that MCO should have something like this. We don't get as much visitors spotting at this airport like FLL/MIA, but I've seen groups of Germans taking photos, or British writing down tail #'s. The DAL parking lot is a great spot, and employee's can see you....if anything happens or someone is acting suspicious, they could contact authorities.

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29784 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1899 times:

Be sure to drop a line to the airport administration thanking them.

A little positive reinforcement now may make them less likely to get stupid in the future.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1898 times:

Dazed767,

Let me make clearing about at MCO airport and is that was no restrictions at the airport property either. You will still used shooting with the pictures again at MCO and when you will able coming down there to FLL/MIA again? Well, talk ya later!

Regards!

Scott W.


User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6202 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1853 times:

Well, the hoops they make you jump thru is kind of a pain, but that's better than nothing.


Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5489 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1847 times:

He said thanks for the comments and he'll pass it on. I pretty much said it is a poor location for "serious" aviation photographers. That local airports such as FLL and MIA have viewing areas which accomodate spotters and photographers and is a good location to get close to the action. But I did start the letter saying I was glad to see they are out to help spotters. We'll see what happens.

Justin


User currently offlineMcdonobr From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (11 years 4 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1776 times:
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I agree w/NonRevKing, F-MCO, the 9th floor is absolutely useless for photography.
We can all thank MCO's Ken Harwood, Airport Security Threat Prevention Manager, a major paranoid schizophrenic who pushed all these restrictions forward, also enlisting the aid of the Mayor's office. He even went so far as to try and tell us that it is illegal to log registration #'s and that terrorists can use your photos to study methods of attack- what crap!! With all the info they are requiring for a parking lot observation pass, why isn't this sufficient enough for a pass to use in areas better suited for photography?


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