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User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 22
Posted (11 years 5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2703 times:

Im looking for some help for the following trip. If any of you A.Net people could help me out with some info in these ever changing time's it will be of great help. Can anyone please confirm the follwing.

1) What is US customs/security stance on Binoculars & aircraft books - number lists etc etc in hand baggage. I was going to take my plane number gear + binoculars in my hand luggage but am worried if they search my bag there going to think terrorist !!!!! Can anyone give me any feedback.

2) What the situation at the moment with regard spotting AIRSIDE at the following airports. BOS/FLL/ORD. I was hoping to get as many numbers + a few pictures while waiting for flight etc etc. What the situation with regards binoculars and taking reg numbers ??? Will i get jumped the moment i start viewing the planes !!!!

3) While on Holiday i was going to visit FLL & MCO. Can anyone confirm if spotting from the Hybiscus car park is still allowed. I understand that the view park has been closed but are there any other points on FLL where you can park up and watch aircraft takeoff/land ???

4) I understand that spotting is not allowed at MCO. I was hoping to chance my luck and try to spend the day on the terminal top parking. Will i get hassle or if i keep a low profile will i be ok. I was thinking if i am told to push off is there anywhere alse i can spot from. Please note i will not have a car and will have to rely on cabs !!!!

I had asked all this before prior to Iraq and had been told that spotting at all the airport would be no problem. Im pretty sure thats not going to be the case now after reading some of the threads.

Many thanks in advance.

Simon (fingers crossed for some good news)


Canon 1D Mk III,Canon 20D+17-40 L f4.0,70-200 L IS USM f2.8,400 L USM f5.6,135 mm L f2.0, 50 mm f1.8,1.4 x II extender
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User currently offlineBapilot2b From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 927 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (11 years 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2657 times:

LHRSIMON:

Great questions, just what I am also in need of knowing with me flying to ORD via BOS next Thursday. Where are you off to on Thursday, wouldnt it be wiered if we was on the same flight lol! Me and BA747-436 are on AA109 to BOS, then connect at BOS on AA1025 for ORD. How about meeting up at LHR prior to checking in or even after? Would be cool all the same.

Yours Sincerely,
Jason Nicholls



Jason Nicholls - v1images
User currently offlineDan330 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 439 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 years 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

With regards getting reg's / pictures airside while waiting for flights, it wasn't since Iraq but last May I sat at a packed Burger King near the window at MCO (Terminal B) taking pics for about 2 hours while waiting to catch my flight home and never had any problem watsoever.
May have changed since but I wouldn't think you'd have a problem.

Talking about being on the same flight as people, I went in to get my euros from the local travel agent on Saturday and found the manager there was on the same flight as me this Thursday to ACE, its a small world.


User currently offlineSunilgupta From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 776 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (11 years 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2643 times:


> 1) What is US customs/security stance on Binoculars & aircraft …

No worries. Anything except the posted prohibited items such as guns, knifes, explosives, etc is fine. We still have *some* freedom here  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

> 2) What the situation at the moment with regard spotting …

Legally, no problem. However, there are many mixed reports from people. Some people never get bothered and others are treated like street scum. It’s potluck. Just use common sense. Act like you belong there, ignore every one around you and go about your business. If anyone approaches you just be cooperative and explain that it’s your hobby.

> 4) I understand that spotting is not allowed at MCO.

It is allowed. Visit the MCO web site and look for the FAQ. You have to fill out some sort of form and submit it to them.

Sunil
IAD-DCA-BWI



User currently offlineScooter From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (11 years 5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2624 times:

Shooting airside at any airport in the US is okay, as long as you are discreet. Don't go firing off pictures of everything you see.

If you see something you like, take a quick picture of it, and put the camera away.

Works for me...



User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2588 times:

Im on the AA109 to Boston but I ment to say a week Thursday (10th). Shame as it would be great to meet some A.Net people.

Point 1 : Seems to be cleared up. Good news

Point 2 : Looks positive regarding AIRSIDE but im still awaiting confirmation post Iraq. Seems as it,s pot luck ??. If anyone can confirm how strict FLL/BOS/ORD are on this it would be great. I will have my wife and kids with me so i cops jumping me would not be a good thing !!!!

Point 3 : With regards FLL i have had reports from "Its like a war zone with patrols and cops all over the place,don't bother." To "There no problem spotting on the Hybiscus carpark,a cop even confirmed this to me". There seems to be a great differnce on what going on. Can anyone down in FLL put me in the picture as im completely confused !!!!

Point 4 : Spotting in NOT allowed at MCO. If you recheck the thread you will see its been changed again back to NO SPOTTING ALLOWED. Once again any update please !!!

Thanks again for all your answers.

Kind regards
Simon



Canon 1D Mk III,Canon 20D+17-40 L f4.0,70-200 L IS USM f2.8,400 L USM f5.6,135 mm L f2.0, 50 mm f1.8,1.4 x II extender
User currently offlineBapilot2b From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 927 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (11 years 5 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2576 times:

Simon: Thats what i meant, im on AA109 on the 10th April 2003 lol.


Jason Nicholls - v1images
User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (11 years 5 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2536 times:

We may bump into each other then. I will be the stressed looking one with 2 young kids + wife. I wont be doing any spotting LHR as it already my home airport. I will be in the bar as i AM NOT going to pay $5.00 for a miniture can of bear on the AA flight !!!!!!

I guess we will be the one's rushing through customs at BOS so we can spend some decent time airside at BOS before our ongoing flight. Im due appx 3 hours in BOS so fingers crossed i should get at least a couple of hours spotting !!

Simon



Canon 1D Mk III,Canon 20D+17-40 L f4.0,70-200 L IS USM f2.8,400 L USM f5.6,135 mm L f2.0, 50 mm f1.8,1.4 x II extender
User currently offlineBA747-436 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 1259 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (11 years 5 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2520 times:

Simon do you know your seat number on AA109, also do you know what BOS is like for photo oppertunity's airside as the only time i've had a chance is where BA leave from whihc is ok but nothing special.? By the way i'm flying with Jason so might see you onboard the 777  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


Dan Valentine - Bad Ass MOFO Photographer
User currently offlineBapilot2b From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 927 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (11 years 5 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2519 times:

Would be cool to bump into you Simon, always enjoy meeting a.net members here and there, meeting quite a few out in ORD. While at LHR ill prob do alittle photography but would like 2 have a quiet pint or two to celebrate my first ever Transatlantic flight and first time out of Europe!

We wont have a problem getting through Customs, we can take the express route seen as Dan is an AA Gold Advantage member. We are due 5 hours in BOS before our ongoing flight AA1025 to ORD.

I will be the big lanky git with a Nike bag and MYT Crew Tag on it (not hard to see). A photo of me can be found on:

http://www.jnicholls.com/me.html

How have you done seat wise? Apparently the flight is ram packed (10 seats left before we got transfered onto AA109, due to AA95 we was booked on not exsisting). ATM looks like im windowless through the flight  Crying unless we can blag a window seat while checking in with out Frequent Flyer cards!) were on row 44 in the middle  Angry lol.

Our own little a.net meeting on AA109 eh lol! Probably more of a turnout with us 3 than my last attempt at a LHR meetup!

Yours Sincerely,
Jason Nicholls



Jason Nicholls - v1images
User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (11 years 5 months 2 days ago) and read 2479 times:

I will try to keep an eye out for you two,and maybe we'll have time for a pint !! Kids and wife permitting.

With regards my seats on the plane. Yep i saw the plane was pretty packed but i know ,me and my family have 2 x 2 seats each pair with a window on all flights (LHR-BOS-FLL-ORD-LHR). I made sure of that knowing how airport airside security maybe. Im hoping to log as much as possible from the plane,just in case !!!!

On the point of the view at BOS. I have been reliably informed that the view from the AA Domestic pier is pretty good and therefor its a case of getting through customs asap and parking myself airside on the AA pier to log as much as possible. We may again meet up ???

Thanks again
Simon






Canon 1D Mk III,Canon 20D+17-40 L f4.0,70-200 L IS USM f2.8,400 L USM f5.6,135 mm L f2.0, 50 mm f1.8,1.4 x II extender
User currently offlineBA747-436 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 1259 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (11 years 5 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2432 times:

Sounds good Simon, looks like we will see you there. Gona try my blaggin skills at checkin see what we can get. Anythings better than the back of the plane by the bogs!
If you see us onboard come by and say hi. Otherwise we will be around the same area as you on the AA domestic terminal as we are off to Chicago on AA1025  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Look foreward to meeting you onboard
Kind Regards
Dan



Dan Valentine - Bad Ass MOFO Photographer
User currently offlineBapilot2b From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 927 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (11 years 5 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2434 times:

Simon : good thinking lets hope your source is correct because looks like you will see me and Dan there too, as long as its not like getting out of hell for alittle photography. A pre flight pint sound good to me! Anyway better get to bed, got a busy few days ahead of me before the flight.

Yours Sincerely,
Jason Nicholls



Jason Nicholls - v1images
User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8897 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2338 times:

Jason and Simon...just a little heads up on BOS. Be VERY discrete. The State Police does not look too favourably on us, and may tell you to stop. Since BOS was one of the 9.11 airports, security is very tight and I urge you guys to be very discrete. As for the AA pier, you shouldn't really need binoculars (which will definetely help), as the taxiway is right there and you can easily read registrations.

Jeff


User currently offlineLHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2327 times:

Thanks for the update Jeff . I will have my wife and kids with me aswell and they (kids) like to also look at the planes. Normaly once the cops see your in a family group their not to bad (not so much of a threat). Thanks for the info though , i will try not to stand out from the crowd.

Good news on the AA pier (no bino's needed)

Thanks again
Simon



Canon 1D Mk III,Canon 20D+17-40 L f4.0,70-200 L IS USM f2.8,400 L USM f5.6,135 mm L f2.0, 50 mm f1.8,1.4 x II extender
User currently offlineBapilot2b From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 927 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2169 times:

Nice meeting you in flight Simon, I tell you what, if it wasnt £20,000 rtn LHR-BOS-ORD-LHR in first i would almost definately consider paying for first! BOS wasnt bad for viewing, me and Dan went un challenged taking down reges and taking photo's. and pretty much the same at ORD, the international piers at ORD are AMAZING, you get some great views around the whole airport. Easy to log everything that there is around. Yet again, we wasnt challenged when taking photo's.

Yours Sincerely,
Jason Nicholls



Jason Nicholls - v1images
User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8897 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2153 times:

Sounds good for BOS on Thursday night...ASA will have a jet there (and I am need of an ASA registration), and Swiss will have an A330 at the Delta gates. Hope to get photos of both.

Jeff


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