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Canon D60 Troubles  
User currently offlineDutchair From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 105 posts, RR: 21
Posted (11 years 6 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3884 times:

Hi all,

I had two major problems with my D60 this week at Amsterdam.

The first problem I encountered was the focusing of the camera which
behaved very strange. I was shooting landing aircraft and at the time I wanted to take the photo my camera didn't want to focus. It didn't manage to pick a focus point. I had all three focus points selected.
I've also tried it with the center focus point selected and again the camera failed a few times. It only seems to appear with moving objects. When I focus on the road or at a tree the camera picks a focus point immediately.

The second problem I had was that my camera got stuck one time. I didn't use it for a couple of minutes, wanted to take a photo again and the thing did not react on any button or dial. It was still on, in AV mode and wasn't writing or using the CF card. (microdrive). Even the power switch didn't work anymore. I had to take out the batteries and after reinserting them the camera worked again.

I think these failures are pretty scary. Especially when you drive to the airport for one aircraft. Luckily the camera worked fine at the crucial point, the arrival of KLM's new aircraft, but next time it might let me down again.

I'm wondering if any of you D60 users have had the same kind of problems, or does anyone have tips to prevent this next time?
Any help will be very much appreciated.

Best regards,

Miguel Snoep


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User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (11 years 6 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3828 times:

Never had problems before like that..

Must be the new lens... yeah thats it.! better give it to me before your D60 falls apart.. Smile

Wietse



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User currently offlineJetTrader From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 586 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (11 years 6 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3814 times:

I've had my D60 almost a year now (got it back in April 2002) and never seen this problem.

Granted there are ocassional AF "hunts" when the focus point lands on a low contrast part of the subject, but as a rule the AF locks on without any trouble at all.

Maybe you should ask Canon to look at it for you - sounds like a bad unit to me.  Crying

Regards,
Dean



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User currently offlineDutchair From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 105 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (11 years 6 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3797 times:

Wietse,

Had the focusing problem one time at Stansted two weeks ago with my
'old' lens, 75-300. The new lens worked fine, while trying to shoot the photo even the Image Stabilizer of the lens did work. Only the camera didn't see anything to focus on.

Dean,

I definitely will go back to the store with it in a few days. Guess I will try it at Amsterdam in the weekend to see if it happens again.
Funny, it's already my second model. The first one I returned the day after
I bought it. Reason was a piece of solder which fell out when I opened the camera. Now with these problems my confidence in this model is almost gone.  Sad

Thanks,
Miguel



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User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (11 years 6 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3783 times:

I understand your problem.. was just joking.. hope its not a big problem though...

When are you going this weekend? I was hoping to meet up with you again and finally try out the 100-400 on my D60....  Smile

Wietse



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User currently offlineTimdegroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 5, posted (11 years 6 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3767 times:
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Might go as well this weekend, some new stuff to get on K at least.
Let me know......

Tim



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User currently offlineDutchair From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 105 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (11 years 6 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3725 times:

I got your joke Wietse  Smile

Well, checking the forecast I think Sunday might give some sunshine.
Think Saturday is too cloudy, only 30% sun. Sunday it's 50%. Wind is north at 4.

Cheers,

Miguel



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User currently offlineCkw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 744 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (11 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3715 times:

Focusing - well in servo mode, having all 3 points active is not a good idea with the D60 anyway, but that doesn't really explain the problem in single point mode.

I have experienced something similar on a few occasions over the last year (maybe 5 or 6 times). For me, the solution has been turn camera off, remount lens, turn camera on. Everything normal.

Complete camera lockup I've had once - which in my case I think was partly user error - snatching out a CF card before write was complete. Like you, taking battery in/out solved problem.

How serious is this? Not sure - I've also had the focus problem with an EOS 3, so I don't think its D60 specific. I will agree the glitches seem to occur with more frequency with my DSLR than my SLRs, but then my DSLR use is much more intensive.

Also, if we think of these cameras as computers - which they are to a large degree - then the occasional crash is perhaps not too surprising. I see taking out the battery and putting it back in as the equivalent of [ctr][alt][del].

If I had to reboot my D60 everytime I did a shoot I'd be worried. As this seems to be a fairly rare occurance, and no other ill effects arise, I'd be inclined to just shrug it off ... and perhaps wish my PC were as reliable as my D60  Smile

Cheers,

Colin



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User currently offlineDutchair From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 105 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (11 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3707 times:

Thanks for sharing your experiences on this Colin.

I stopped using servo mode already after a few times of shooting.
These photos were made in one shot mode.

I will intensively try the camera in several modes and with several focus points this weekend. Will also try to compare it to my EOS 3. (as far as that is possible of course.)

And you're right you can see the D60 as a sort of computer, and my PC crashed a lot more times indeed!

Thanks,
Miguel



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User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (11 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3694 times:

Miguel, I don't use a D60 (or any of those darn newfangled digital contraptions Big grin) but I've had similar things happening to me too (rare, but they happened).

I tracked it down to the position of my hand on the lensbarrel.
Turned out I was pressing with one finger against the focusring (which on that lens moves when AF is active) which caused the AF motor to be incapable of steering the AF correctly.
Reattaching the lens (needed to reset the sensors I guess) and placing my hand elsewhere cured it.



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User currently offlineDutchair From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 105 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (11 years 6 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3679 times:

Jeroen,

In theory this could be the problem, but it's not the case with me.
As far as I know I never obstructed the focusring.

In fact, it's not possible with the lens I used this week as that one has no moving focusring on the outside. All the moving parts are inside the lens.

Regards,
Miguel



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User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (11 years 6 months 4 days ago) and read 3456 times:

"The second problem I had was that my camera got stuck one time. I didn't use it for a couple of minutes, wanted to take a photo again and the thing did not react on any button or dial. It was still on, in AV mode and wasn't writing or using the CF card. (microdrive). Even the power switch didn't work anymore. I had to take out the batteries and after reinserting them the camera worked again."

This same problem happened to me twice Miguel, I did the same as you.

It's a no no...

Luis


User currently offlineDutchair From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 105 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (11 years 6 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3388 times:

So the battery problem seems to be pretty 'common'.
It's not my biggest concern, I can live with it as long as it happens once every few months or so.

Thanks,

Miguel



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User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 64
Reply 13, posted (11 years 6 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3321 times:
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Hi all

I will have had my D30 for two years this year and not one problem with it whatsoever........touch wood  Smile

Cheers

Gary Watt


User currently offlineCkw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 744 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (11 years 6 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3314 times:

From my own experience and 2nd hand reports - including Gary's comment, I think that the problem lies in an interaction with the camera's buffering system and the CF card/microdrive. This is one area of the D60 which was completely reworked compared to the D30. I can get exactly the same symptoms on my PC when trying to access my firewire harddrive on occassions.

If others could contribute more detail of exactly when this lock-up occurs, it might be possible to formulate an avoidance tactic, if not a cure. For instance, is there a pattern to the state of the card/drive - full or empty? Formatted in camera or through PC?

Cheers,

Colin



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User currently offlineJoe pries From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1957 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (11 years 6 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3308 times:

Had my D60 for a year now- used it in every condition/situation and never once did i have a problem.

Joe


User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (11 years 6 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3283 times:

Colin, the "frozen" problem happen to me from one minute to another without doing a thing. I had some images not many and I never formatted the CF, I just delete the images.

Luis


User currently offlineMarco_polo From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 324 posts, RR: 18
Reply 17, posted (11 years 6 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3241 times:

Miguel:

What kind of lens do you have? I have similar problem to yours on a D30. I finally track down the problems and it was the lens. Sigma and Quantaray overtime has problems with Aperture mechanics. After 1 year of using my Sigma 28-300mm lens, the Aperture mechanics fail to reset itself after each shot, meaning your aperture does not open back up. When the aperture is stuck your view finder becomes somewhat darker than usual which interrupts the flow of light to your autofocusing sensor. When this problem first happen my D30 could not focus at all. Like you said it focus on still object o.k. Likewise similar. My resolution back then is to press Aperture preview button on the D30 to move the lens aperature so it would reset itself. This does the trick.

My problem was intermitten also but over time the lens aperture mechanical system finally fail and I sent it back to Sigma for warrantly replacment. As I thought, they confirmed that the servo that controls the aperture diaphragm failed. They replaced to unit in less than 2 days.

For now what I would do if this is an issue is to see

A) Does you view finder looks darker than normal when you focuing is not working?

B) If so, try moving the Aperture Diaphragm by pressing the "Preview Button" on the lower right hand side of the camera where your thumb is placed or near when holding the camera.

Well good luck and hope that the issue will be resolved for you.

Best Regards,

Jay


User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (11 years 6 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3230 times:

Jay,

I believe it was a 100-400mm L IS lens. Interesting problem you had there! Big grin


Wietse



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User currently offlineDutchair From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 105 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (11 years 6 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3205 times:

Jay,

Had the problem with 2 different Canon lenses.
- 75-300 IS
- 100-400 L IS

Thanks for the explanation. I will definitely try this when the problem occurs again. As far as I remember the view finder didn't look any darker, but I did not pay much attention to that last time. Although I think I would have noticed it.

Thanks again,

Miguel



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User currently offlineMarco_polo From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 324 posts, RR: 18
Reply 20, posted (11 years 6 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3139 times:

Miguel:

I love to blame it on Canon lens  Smile but I probably have to guess it is not. They are pretty reliable. I wish you luck to find the problems. The good thing about my problem is that is in my camera. It is easier to replace a lens than a camera body.

Well all I can do is wish you good luck and hope the problem does not arise again. Take Care.

-Jay


User currently offlineMarco_polo From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 324 posts, RR: 18
Reply 21, posted (11 years 6 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3129 times:

Miguel:

Man... My typing is horrible. It must be late. What I meant to say is as follow:

I love to blame it on Canon lens  Smile but I probably have to guess it is not the problem. Canon Lens are very reliable. I wish you luck in finding the problem/s and solution. The good thing about my problem is that is not the camera. It is easier to replace a lens than a camera body.

Well all I can do is wish you good luck and hope the problem does not arise again. Take Care.

 Smile Smile Smile

- Jay


User currently offlineDutchair From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 105 posts, RR: 21
Reply 22, posted (11 years 5 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3004 times:

Thanks Jay! At least there's some good news about the problem.
Was at Amsterdam last Sunday and the whole thing worked just fine.
The problems didn't show up that day. Hopefully it stays this way!  Smile

Cheers,

Miguel



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