LN-ATC From Norway, joined Jul 2001, 62 posts, RR: 3 Posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2060 times:
Due to "the world situation", the spectators' viewing area on top of the Queen's Building/Terminal Two was temporarily closed, I guess it still is? Airliner World's 2003 May issue contained a detailed article about London Heathrow, saying for example:
"The British Airport's Authority says it is sympathetic towards enthusiasts, though there is little current evidence of this. With summer fast approaching, the number of people who wish to watch the comings and goings at Heathrow can only increase."
Is it likely that the viewing are will re-open before/during the summer? What do you think?
Sunilgupta From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 774 posts, RR: 15 Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2006 times:
A couple of us tried to find out yesterday if they were going to reopen because we got chased from the top or car park 2. A woman who claimed to be airport security came up and told us to leave. We pretty much refused so she called us in. When another women in full uniform showed up she spilled the beans that the other women was El-Al security. Sure enough a few minutes later an El-Al 777 landed. The point of all this is that if the observation deck were open they would not have to hassle with everyone on the parking decks. We tried to tell them this but it was pointless I think.
Kingwide From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 838 posts, RR: 20 Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1964 times:
The key point is that the government has given permission for the deck to reopen if LHR places a security patrol on it. As they [security] have no resources to do that, it stays closed. I strongly doubt they'll recruit someone solely for the purpose of patrolling the terrace so it will stay closed.
G-CIVP From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1265 posts, RR: 10 Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1923 times:
Problem is theres conflicting rumours circulating. Other sources are saying its because the BAA won't shell out on increased insurance premiums for the terrace, hence its shut as its the 'cheaper' option as opposed to employing a security guard.
This said, those with good memories will remember when bags were searched at one stage on entry to the building by a security guard, after the terrorist attacks in the mid to late 1990's.
I've heard even more bizarre reasons as well, which are probably best not mentioned here.
LHR340 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2003, 877 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1920 times:
I hope it will re-open in the summer, but even if it doesn't there are still plenty of good spots to spot at "the field"(Mrytle Avenue) or the visitors centre, although they say they won't be putting a spectators gallery on top of T5 I bet they will, because that will be the best place to spot!! Or maybe when they build the new control tower we could get that.
[Edited 2003-05-19 20:05:56]
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LN-ATC From Norway, joined Jul 2001, 62 posts, RR: 3 Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1897 times:
If money is the problem, I'm sure the enthusiasts will gladly pay an entrance fee (a few £), so BAA can afford having security guards up there. If BAA finds a couple of guards that are interested in aviation, I bet they'll do the guarding almost for nothing!
Janne From Sweden, joined Sep 2001, 379 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1894 times:
This is shocking news to me. I am going to London on May 29 for the sole
purpose of spotting at Heathrow and Gatwick (and also to go to the
Classic Airshow in Coventry). You mean they've closed down Queens Building.
How about Gatwick. Have they closed down the terrace there also?
Msh744 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 463 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1881 times:
It's a sad but true sight. Here's some photographic evidence from May 11. Edit: I just noticed that this photo was taken 25 minutes away from the 20 month anniversary of 9/11 (the minute the first plane crashed).
However, I went to the top of the T3 Carpark (with signs everyhwere that say "Viewing Prohibited. Leave area immediately" (or something along those lines) and watched a few planes depart, but 1. I didn't have a long enough lens (280mm), 2. There were too many obstructions and 3. It was windy and somewhat cold. No security people up there, but the views weren't very good.
Here are some shots from the T3 Carpark
However, since I was a passenger (on UAL 979 to JFK), I could enter the terminal and I found a great spotting place (have to shoot through a window, but hey, 13 out of my 14 shots on the site have been taken through windows) in Terminal 3. What you do is enter the gate area, turn left, and walk millions of miles until you reach the end of the terminal. Nobody, and I mean nobody was there. A Turkish A310 was just sitting at a gate 50 feet away, but the pax (if there were any) were in the gate lounge. I took lots of pics from this area, and I used the power outlet that was there to charge my other camera battery.
Here's a few pics I took from/in this area in T3.
Wide angle view (not with wide angle lens, though. just 35mm)
Janne From Sweden, joined Sep 2001, 379 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1871 times:
This is outrageous. I was in (on?) the Queens Building 2 weeks after
September 11, 2001, and I was impressed by the professionalism of
the security people at Heathrow that understood the difference between
terrorists and spotters. I thought the security on Arlanda, Stockholm
was a bit to much when they searched me for just going between two
terminals with my camera. In London I had no problems whatsoever.
I even asked a couple of policemen for help when taking photos
of the aircraft and they helped me.
Janne From Sweden, joined Sep 2001, 379 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1863 times:
It just came to my mind. I remember in the 70'ies when most airports
closed down their spectator terraces because of the leftwing terrorist
actions that where the high fashion of those days.
Der (Die?) Rote Armee Fractzione, The Red Brigades and the like.
So now we have the same killing of innocents going around.
Has anyone of you heard of an attack that's been launched from a
Trintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3209 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1835 times:
This is sad, after all I went to the deck on 28 January and had an enjoyable albeit cold, wet and windy day up there photographing planes. I also bought 3 Swissair A320 family models. It must have been my luck, as I saw Concorde take off (well I went early in order to see that) and see BWIA's last TriStar service from LHR in its own colours. As it would also turn out, this was just the week before they closed it!
Qantas744 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 246 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1808 times:
I'm sorry to say Janne that noone has ever heard of an attack being launched from a flights school either-but a flight school played it's part in 9/11 and that is what counts. I would like to see the deck reopen as much as everyone else BUT.........
DC-10 Levo From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3432 posts, RR: 5 Reply 13, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1777 times:
Half term is coming, and I was going to travel down to LHR. I hoped the spectators deck had opened again, but obviously it isn't. I wrote to BAA through email in February half term and they replied, (very quickly) saying that the spectators deck is indefinitely closed and if I was still going to travel down, to go to the new BA building where I could get a good view of aircraft taking off. BAA told us that we were not allowed to walk around the premises as security officers were patrolling.
I didn't go down, with all the building going off (T5), we didn't think it was worth it. We went to MAN instead.
So, this half term, (depending on the weather) we are hopefully going down to LHR. If not, its MAN again.
FutureFO From St. Vincent and the Grenadines, joined Oct 2001, 3118 posts, RR: 22 Reply 15, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1570 times:
I was in LON in Mar and was amazed that the LHR deck was still closed and went to LGW and was able to pay my GBP1.50 to get on the deck. I thought it odd but maybe because LGW is not that busy of an airport and that they collect money to enter was the only reasons to keep it open. I did however do some spotting from the Hatton X area. I would however hope that the deck at LHR reopen soon.