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User currently offlineKLAX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4532 times:

Well, I'm just gonna concentrate on uploading to one website now, its easier, and I've already chosen what website I'd like that to be. This website is turning into a buisness, and I'm in thise for the hobby and the fun.
I have a few pics here, but I wont be uploading anymore. It was fun though.
Thanks for all the help and support.

Leftseat86@hotmail.com (MSN & Email)
Clovis86 (AIM)
N8195H (YahooMessenger)

See ya round'

-Clovis


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User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4466 times:

Damn, 1 less point on my Respect Rating. Peace Clovis


Go big or go home
User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8702 posts, RR: 43
Reply 2, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4445 times:

I wonder how long this thread will remain here... Bye, Clovis! No more TLS news from you on here.  Crying


Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineQantas744 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 246 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4398 times:

And there was me thinking I had helped talk you out of it.......Damn :-(




Matt



you can't buy time but you can sell your soul and the closest thing to heaven is to rock'n'roll
User currently offline707cmf From France, joined Mar 2002, 4885 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4407 times:

Godspeed to you, American Frog  Wink/being sarcastic
Hope you enjoy that 'other site'
Hope also to see you at the Paris Airshow anyway in June.

As for that other site... you might want to remember what you said anyways :
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/site_related/read.main/5060/6/ (just kidding )

cheers, and, as we say here in the Alps, Have Foehn

Antoine, from CMF, who choosed to stay on A.net (156 photos in the database in less than one year, and I don't even have access to Airbus factory at TLS !!!)


User currently offlineBoieng747-400 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4370 times:

Sad to see you go Clovis. Its really too bad your leaving here. I wish you good luck on the other site and hope to see you back here one day. Its sad to see soo many people leave these days  Sad

Bon Vent,
Tim (who continues to upload here and on pp.net)


User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4357 times:

Too bad, one less frog on the site  Sad
I've been with a.net since 1998, and at the time it was a lot more good-natured and open to anyone with a 24*36 camera.
Nowadays, you need DLSR's in order to have any hope of having 98' style approval rates. This is supposed to be a site for aviation enthusiasts regardless of their views or budget, not a plaything for people with cameras that cost more than my car. I sincerely Johan will remember what it was like in the good old days.
Anyway Clovis, I'll be at LBG in June, maybe with a DSLR (if you can't beat 'em...)
Anyways, CMF spotters will still kick ass for a long time - 200+ pics of CMF and 462 pics for CMF spotters  Laugh out loud



Fly to live, live to fly - Air France/KLM Flying Blue Platinum, BMI Diamond Club Gold, Emirates Skywards
User currently offlineN737MC From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 678 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4300 times:

Sad to see you go. I liked your pictures, Just to let you know. I will be on the lookout for them on the other site.

Have a good time and thank you for sharing your work here. It is greatly appreaciate by all of us people in the hobby!


Thank you

Aaron Mandolesi
Denver, Colorado


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 8, posted (11 years 3 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4230 times:

/me waits for Clovis to return under his third alias  Laugh out loud

User currently offlineJayDavis From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3945 times:

I wonder how many photographers such as Clovis, Josh Rawlin and Mark Abbott have left A.net? Would be interesting to know. I still participate in the forums over here, but there is no way I would ever upload another photo in this database.

Too much of a hassle with the screeners. Not enough consistency in the screening process, in my opinion.


Jay


User currently offlineJe89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2360 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3927 times:
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Too bad you had to go, Clovis . . .

What happened to Skymonster?  Confused

Jerrold


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9623 posts, RR: 68
Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3913 times:
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Too much of a hassle with the screeners. Not enough consistency in the screening process, in my opinion.

Just had a look at some of your photos on jetphotos, and the quality just isn't there. I think it is pretty obnoxious of you to blame the screeners...

Posts like this are the equivalent of telling your date "I don't really like the service we get at Ruths Chris Steakhouse, so we'll go to the Sizzler instead"


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3884 times:

Royal,
I like Sizzler! Ate there twice on my last trip to Seattle...... But, your right...many leave blaming the screeners, when they should look harder at their own images......

Jeff


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9623 posts, RR: 68
Reply 13, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3876 times:
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dude, Sizzler rocks! The Malibu Chicken is an all-time favortie, but if you want a real steak...

You must have stayed in SouthCenter  Big grin


User currently offlineJayDavis From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3789 times:

Look at some of my photos on this site. They are quality stuff. I don't see why all of a sudden my shots are "crap" and not worthy of A.net. I am not doing anything differently in terms of scanning, photoshopping, etc. in uploading to Jetphotos.net

As I have said earlier, I think this site is becoming way too concerned with digital images and I don't have those.

Also, who made you judge and jury of the photo quality of my shots?


Jay


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 15, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3780 times:

Jay - you say your photos are quality stuff, but you also moan about how you need $1000's worth of equipment to get good photos.

Anyone can get photos into the database, I know people who are 12 or 13, have very cheap cameras and can still get photos in the database, I just think you are not willing to try new techniques or improve your photos especially when you get rejections.


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9623 posts, RR: 68
Reply 16, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3785 times:
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I am sure your slides are top-notch Jay, but the scanning leaves a bit to be desired.

My point was you blame the screeners for your shots being rejected...but they aren't up to standard. How is it that Not enough consistency in the screening process be labeled the problem?

To my eye it looks to be that the standards of the site have matured. Perhaps the level of quality you upload was worthy in 2001, but 2 years on that isn't the case.


User currently offlineJayDavis From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3771 times:

I am "trying" new techniques and I already have $1000.00's of worth of equipment. Canon EOS 1VHS, Canon 70-200 f-2.8, Canon 28-70 f-2.8, and Canon 1.4x and Canon 2x converters.

I spoke with a friend of mine yesterday and asked him why some of my photos are not sharp. He said to try using a higher f-stop, so next time I hit the airport, I'll go try that out.

As for my scanner, not much else I can do, unless I want to shell out another $1500.00 or so for a Nikon Cool Scan...........

Just get tired of trying so hard to get one accepted these days and all I get are rejections.............it is just not fun anymore........


Jay


User currently offlineJoe pries From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1957 posts, RR: 53
Reply 18, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3757 times:

Jay, you have the best setup money can buy as far as Canon, theres no reason to get not sharp photos. for action shots just set to TV and about 500th of a second on sunny days (theres no need to shoot kodachrome on cloudy days unless you're into sadomasochism) and you should be ok. I can shoot with the 70-200 and 2x converter at full strength and still achieve great results.

Joe A.T. TEAM


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9623 posts, RR: 68
Reply 19, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3760 times:
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you certainley have good equipment  Big grin

The thing I have found is during the post-processing phase there is def. a "sweet spot"

All you need to do is find that sweet spot for your equipment and you are set.


User currently offlineTimdegroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 20, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3768 times:
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Jay, equipment is not a problem. Maybe a new scanner will do, or work on your photoshop skills. Masking the sky, and other techniques can greatly improve your scans. I always try new things and try to get the best out of my slides.

As an example:On this photo I masked the sky and then used a little smartblur to eliminate most of the grain. Was shot with a Canon eos33, 28-105, and K64, and coolscan 4.


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Tim de Groot



Tim



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User currently offlineJayDavis From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3733 times:

Thanks for the tips Joe and ClickHappy and Timdegroot !!

One question for ClickHappy, what are you referring to as the sweet spot?

One for Timdegroot, it concerns masking. I've never done that with Photoshop, what are you talking about?

Thanks!



Jay

p.s. to Joe........

Not into sadomasochism, but I am into chics with whips and leather,
does that count?  Big grin


Jay


User currently offlineTimdegroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 22, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3730 times:
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Jay:

Use the "magic wand" tool to select the sky (works best with a blue sky without clouds, but can be done on a cloudy sky with some practice). You can then apply some smartblur to the selected area (I usually apply between 2.5 and 5.0). You can then also use "invert", so you select everything except the sky. You can apply unsharp mask to that area. This way the sky will be nice and smooth and the plane will be sharp. On all of my recent scans I have used this technique.

Hope you can understand what I mean Smile

Tim



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User currently offlineJayDavis From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 16
Reply 23, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3713 times:

I think I understand what you are trying to tell me to do.
I'll give it a try tonight when I scan a shot!

Jay


User currently offlineTimdegroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 24, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3714 times:
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Jay:

I snatched your famous Peter Max shot (hope you don't get angry Smile ) and used smartblur (about 7.0) on the sky. You can see this can give quite a quality improvement.

http://home.quicknet.nl/qn/prive/phdegroot/AirlinersNetPhotoID250457.jpg

Tim



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25 Clickhappy : what I mean by "sweet spot" is finding harmony between your cameras output, the scan you create, and any post-process work in photoshop. One thing I h
26 Staffan : It's a good idea to mask away the sky before sharpening too, since it won't bring out noise in the sky. It also allows you to sharpen more without get
27 Post contains links Ljungdahl : Jay, In this thread, reply #10 and #11, I've made my best to describe the technique I usually use when I'm scanning & editing images, maybe some of th
28 EGGD : Yes with what Staffan says, I think Colin, made a photoshop action that can use that does that.
29 Post contains links and images Je89_w : I also have this photo I need help on : http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=jl743_52503.jpg I know the contrast level is a bit high
30 Ckw : Jerrold - first, you have to make an honest, objective analysis of the original. The main problem with this scan is that the shadows are completely bl
31 BO__einG : Interesting topic. Masking is basically highlighting an area to do work on. Whether it is the magic wand, lasso, or the box.. Je89.w what kind of scan
32 Shawn Patrick : The priorities of the site have definetly changed over time, that's expected. When airliners.net first opened up to submissions, there were few photos
33 Post contains images Bruce : "new types, new locations"...... hmmmmmmm, I may try and get to the Columbus Air Show this weekend. There's only 1 pic on the database from there and
34 An-225 : Hmm, this thread has deviated way off-topic. By the way, the question persists - where IS Skymonster??? Alex.
35 Post contains links and images N907CL : Where is Skymonster? ! http://www.jetcollector.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3617[Edited 2003-05-29 05:37:54]
36 An-225 : Hmm, great photographers gone from this site - Richard Silagi, Tom Hildreth, Clovis Bouhrier (I hope I spelled his last name right), Mark Abbott, and
37 Boeingholiday : yes it is, I really liked the posts of "skymonster"....
38 Timdegroot : Sorry for continuing OT, but: "bland sideshots" "I'm talking about the boring sideshot type pictures" Maybe you don't like sideshots Shawn, but there
39 Post contains images Shawn Patrick : Tim, Read my post more carefully. What I said is the market for sideshots has already been cornered. Now, Johan can't refuse them, but he can refuse l
40 Cicadajet : Someone once wrote... "No individual photographer is larger than airliners.net itself, whether that photographer is a screener or a long standing pho
41 Mikephotos : If you want to go out and spend thousands of dollars just to take sideshots to upload to airliners.net, go ahead. To each his own. I have invested sev
42 Post contains images LGW : I love viewing Michael's, Carlos', Joe's, Tim De Groot's side on approach and ground shots they are stunning to look at...I find although I love an ar
43 Shawn Patrick : Oh, it seems like I veered a little bit off topic by giving you my opinions, oh well. The main point I was trying to get across is "stop whining about
44 Wietse : lol, As some of you might have noticed, I have been doing some side on approach shots myself lately... I indeed find a great side on action shot with
45 Post contains images Shawn Patrick : Weitse, I woudn't really consider those type of shots to be "bland sideshots", to use my own term. Those are more action shots, which are definetly ve
46 USAFHummer : Well this thread has gone amazingly off topic...so Ill just try to swing things a little more on topic by giving a belated goodbye to Clovis from the
47 Timdegroot : Yes Shawn quality standards are and should be high for sideshots on A.net , although like Mike said, they are nowhere near to what some collectors req
48 Post contains images N178UA : Hey Michael I also love sideshots! I agree with all your views
49 Post contains images Je89_w : I also love sideshots! I agree with all your views Me too! Jerrold
50 Post contains links and images Mikephotos : I know you do Sam, just read on the comments on this photo Mike a nice bland sideshot for you Shawn... View Large View MediumPhoto © Michael F. M
51 Post contains images Shawn Patrick : Michael, LOL
52 Post contains images N178UA : WOW! Just got a blast What a great shot 50mm on the ramp! Another great Kodachrome example by the NYboyz! You guys rule! from Bad Boy Sam, time to sca
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