Clickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9548 posts, RR: 70 Posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2857 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW PHOTO SCREENER
I feel I am qualified to make this statement. I shoot digital. My pictures have been in magazines and large newspapers, and I enjoy shooting with my D100, but let me tell you this, the hardest thing to do is take a perfect slide picture.
Digital is easy. It is cheap, you get the chance to see your work right now and can make any necessary adjustments/compensation to your cameras settings. You also have the chance to adjust (aka fix) your shots on a computer.
Slides are hard. It is expensive and you have to be perfect. It is a much harder, more technical discipline. Try busting off 8 full-frame, level, side-on shots in 2 seconds. Believe me, it isn't easy. I've spent the past 2 weeks playing with shooting slides. I'm not even close to being able to offer the quality that the well known slide shooters are able to crank out day after day.
One more thing. Next time you hear someone say they are tired of "boring side shots," tell them to STFU, they don't have any idea what they are talking about.
N178UA From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1637 posts, RR: 67 Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2807 times:
Couldn't agree more! Very touching and well said. Some digital shooter need to pay respect in their mind to analog shooter. It is a difficult process sometimes.
I got carry away to shoot digital only because of the convenience and readiness. However the real joy back home is looking my slides back from developing. Nothing beat the feeling seeing a full frame action shot! Right Tim?
If you shoot slides, you can also make some money, I made 850 in Columbus.
PS. Sorry my only bad habit on slides is I shot Fuji. (and D100 to Canon guys)
JeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52 Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2777 times:
Glad to hear your going "old school" for a bit Royal, it just seems backwards these days. I have been shooting "analog" for close to 20 years, three quarters of that with manual focus. I can see both sides of the hobby and agree with the satisfaction of getting your film back and seeing "dead on balls accurate" shots. But, having said that, I now enjoy the opposite. Plugging in the compact flash card and and double clicking! Looking forward to seeing some film from you.
Serge From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1989 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2773 times:
Exactly Royal! I have had the hardest time in the world trying to wake up every Saturday and Sunday morning when the light is good to get shots of the local Great Lakes EMB-120 static on the ramp. I've wasted rolls not getting good results! The blue on the bottom half of the fuselage always looks very dark while everything else is perfect. I've tried shots every week in many light conditions (when the sun just pops up to when its more white light and inbetween). Its extremely hard to photograph the real colors of Lakes Air. The only time I ever got the colors perfect was the follow photo:
Unfortunately it used the wrong runway (hence the rear angle) and it wasn't shot on a slide. This fall/winter I will definitely try this again
I truly treasure the rare occasion when I get a perfect side on shot. For example I shot a whole roll of an AN-124 in great light and only a couple slides came back with perfect centering in the mount (not my fault but still shows how much of a pain it can be). I guess I can remount them in those cheasy plastic mounts instead but its a pain to do it for the whole roll and to try and remove the glue from the film.
Serge From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1989 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2774 times:
I'm actually starting to think its impossible to get a perfect shot of the white top Great Lakes aircraft. As you can see it is definitely attainable with the more greyish scheme they have from when they were a UX carrier:
Rindt From Germany, joined May 2000, 930 posts, RR: 14 Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2757 times:
It's all about doing what you're comfortable with... I love my shots to be snug and very tight (just like a lot of other things in life) - and am very happy when time after time I get results like this :
Sorry Royal... Thommy Boy isn't exactly your best friend
What other people think of you is none of your business!
Spotterboy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2703 times:
I also can agree with you!
Shooting analog is really not easy - I've started aircraft photography 2 years ago and shot so much rolls of expensive films wich are just sh*t - but it really was worth... I'm still shotting slides and now it works fine most times. You really need a lot of practise.... So, congrats to all Slide-shooters
Altough I have to add that I'm looking forward to buy a Nikon D100
It all depends on the slide scanner...after reading the responses to one of my other threads and comparing equipment/prices, I'm sticking to my EOS30/EOS300V and Fuji Provia/Sensia; I'll just buy a Canoscan FS4000 instead of a DSLR and scan my backlog of 5000+ slides (luckily I can do that during work hours )
I Canon and Fuji slide film
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Jani From Sweden, joined Aug 2003, 71 posts, RR: 4 Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2651 times:
Only reason I don't shoot slides is that I can't afford a good slide scanner. I shoot prints. It doesn't seem like many around here does that...
And getting a good DSLR is totally out of question, unfortunately.
N178UA From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1637 posts, RR: 67 Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2620 times:
After Royal's thread. I went to scan some slides from my last trip. I did shot 22 rolls of Fuji and 13 rolls of K64 except only got Fuji here to scan, some K64 still seem to be grainy at times, I haven't got all of them back.
I found my S20 did a good job, for clearity and low grain and sharpness. I scan at 1500dpi only save max jpeg no compression.
707cmf From France, joined Mar 2002, 4885 posts, RR: 31 Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2582 times:
No, I already knew what a SLR was (even though I did not know what in English SLR meant).
As for Royal saying we digital photog. have it easy, well, it is indeed true for ramp/still shots. We shoot 5 or 6 pics of each (enough memory on the flash card).
However, when it comes to action shots, well, you SLR guys have the advantage (okay, I'm not speaking of DSLR which is the best of both worlds as everybody knows).
I was last month at LHR with A.net pals, and we went to that spot (Hatton Cross ?) to shoot aircraft on short finals. I can assure you, in that case, there is no tolerance for error. We have to get it right on the first time. My digicam, although quite good, is a pain in the *** when it comes to short response. The zoom is awfully slow, let alone the autofocus. And with just 2 mpixels, I have to shoot it full frame on the first (and only shot).
707, on a bank holiday, with nothing better to do than to upload like a mff (dbc+joh = )
N178UA From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1637 posts, RR: 67 Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2463 times:
Thanks Tim, I will come over to AMS to kick your ass one day
I can tell you that since I start to shoot digital, which you don't need to go full frame as slides do, my slides skill have been deterioriate considerably. Although a few easy spot like SDU and CUZ I been this trip, my slide only come close to 85% full frame, it used to be 90-95% tip to tip. But I am working on slides more since most of my fuji slides from Australia are gone in CMH convention. I will come to FRA this Nov for the slide show.
I will scan a few more tonight, is your Pegasus K64, looks very smooth in grain, well scan!