SESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3537 posts, RR: 9 Posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 7996 times:
I just wanted to know if there's any airline that anyone detests? For me, it's Northwest, I hate that airline with every fiber of my being. From their management to their tactics, to their service, livery, and fleet, I absolutely abhor Northwest Airlines. And living in Minnesota they're pretty much the only choice in many circumstances. Anyone else hate any airlines as much as I hate Northwest?
PlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 12095 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 7994 times:
To be honest I don't think I can think of any airline that I actually hate, there are several that are on my 'no fly list';
BMI Baby - generally did not enjoy my flights with them; dirty aircraft inside, very smelly, so would not fly again. ThomsonFly - Would never ever, EVER! fly on one of their 767 aircraft again, 8 abreast is just too bad! Iberia, would not fly them long haul on the A340, too little leg room
Still, I don't actually hate any of these carriers, I just wouldn't fly them again in a hurry in the above circumstances and for the stated reasons.
...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
QXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2408 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 7963 times:
Like PlymSpotter said, I dont hate airlines, just have some no fly airlines.
American Airlines I wont fly because the MD80's are deffinatly not my favorite bird. And anytime I would fly them, thats what I am flying.
Northwest Airlines I will not fly eather. Living in Michigan for 2 years of my life and only being around NW and their crappy service in DTW, just sets me off. I elected to use Indy as much as possible out of DTW but thats not an option anymore .
I am very pro HP/US. So on any of my flights to LAS out of FAT it is always with HP and not UAX or G4. Same with flying back to DTW I only fly useing HP and not NW out of SFO or UA, DL sometimes, CO, F9 and so on. HP/US is my first choice on all flying.
57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2586 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7953 times:
I don't have any that I hate but I won't patronize American as long as they're paying Crandall's pension. Not too hot about Agony Airlines in their latest reincarnation but will use them if necessary. Southwest-you get what you pay for. My few times flying with them were pleasant. Got me where I was going for a REASONABLE fare and on or ahead of the advertised arrival time to boot. As for airlines that Southwest has "ruined"-good. A company that cannot evolve to deal with the current business situation shouldn't be kept on life support. All that manages to do is hurt potentially viable airlines.
"When a man runs on railroads over half of his lifetime he is fit for nothing else-and at times he don't know that."
IDISA From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 266 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 7907 times:
As other guys said here I too do not "hate" any airline, hate in my language is such a big word. Let's say there is some airline better not to fly anymore.
SAS on the European network (haven't flied any long-haul so couldn't judge in this matter), remained on ground 2 times due to overbooking and still they insist not to increase capacity on the MXP-CPH leg, still those old and almost non-pressurized M80-all-series... though I've flown many times M80s with AZ which too is a major M80 operator, anytime I came down from a SAS M80 seems like my ears are exploding...
Volare Airlines (the Italian charter airline), actually no more operating any flight. On long-haul charter are simply appalling. My FCO-HAV flight (11h and 40mins) has been one of my worst flight experience ever. After 5 hours in flight we were still waiting for any service to start and the main video screen (no PTV, of course), 4 hours after take off from FCO, still showed only the route map!
It's not that I won't fly these airlines anymore but I'd rather like to fly someone else, and that's all.
United319 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 552 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7895 times:
Quoting AirWillie6475 (Reply 2): I hate Southwest and everything it stands for. It has ruined a lot of good airlines and have brought a new meaning to the term air bus.
Enough said, I despise southwest airlines, they are greedy spineless dirtbags. And dont go off trying to defend them, this thread is about what airlines we hate, not "lets defend our airline". The only justification I will give toward my hatred, is numerous bad customer service experiences, low class, annoying company culture, no assigned seating, no premium cabin, bad marketing for instance they have a billboard at my airport that is titled "Floridaaah", what the hell does that mean?!?!?!? Oh and their colors are ugly too. They are a disgrace to this industry, and put good arilines out of business.
MSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7894 times:
Quoting United319 (Reply 8): Enough said, I despise southwest airlines, they are greedy spineless dirtbags. And dont go off trying to defend them, this thread is about what airlines we hate, not "lets defend our airline". The only justification I will give toward my hatred, is numerous bad customer service experiences, low class, annoying company culture, no assigned seating, no premium cabin, bad marketing for instance they have a billboard at my airport that is titled "Floridaaah", what the hell does that mean?!?!?!? Oh and their colors are ugly too. They are a disgrace to this industry, and put good arilines out of business
PacNWJet From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 980 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7884 times:
I have to agree with AirWillie6475. Since I have never flown Southwest I can't say that I hate the airline, but I do hate what it stands for, namely, that the main criterion by which one should choose an airline is low fares. If people want to pay low air fares that is of course their prerogative. But the assumption that low airs fares is everyone's priority has created a situation in which virtually all air travelers have been forced to endure cattle car service even if they would be willing to pay more money for better service. Yes, there are ways to get into Business and First Class by using upgrades or paying more money, but the vast majority of seats on all airlines are in the Coach cabin, and thus absent frequent flyer miles or cold hard cash, everyone flying Coach must conform to the Southwest principle of no frills in return for low fares.
Or to put it succinctly, Southwest is principally responsible for the industry-wide race to the bottom. I hate that.
AirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7863 times:
It's just sad what people put up with so they could save a few bucks. I guarantee you that Southwest does not have a market base like other airlines do because of customer loyalty. If they raised their fares like any other airline, not many would fly them. Let's see what happens when their fuel hedges run out.
DeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7861 times:
Quoting N231YE (Reply 13): I try to stay away from carriers that outsource jobs, as well as ones that treat their labor bad.
You don't fly much any more do you?
As others have said I don't hate any airlines per se but I sure don't like American Airlines. They lost my luggage three weeks in a row and blamed me once and called me a liar saying I only checked one bag even when I showed them two claim tickets.
"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
That's true. I like CO, because a very small portion of their maintenance is done outside of the border. B6 and WN have absolutely no USA maintenance, so I will not fly on them. And I refuse to speak to someone who can't speak English, thus I do not fly on US (and why I no longer buy Hewlett Packard brands).
Anyways, I can fly myself, If I feel like shelling out alot of money in Avgas (100LL).
JBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3185 posts, RR: 17
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7841 times:
I try not to hate airlines but I can't help it when it comes to American. In the flights I've taken with them in the past, most recently just a month or so ago, they have consistently been rude, untimely and frankly, for the price, CO offers a much better product. I guess I've been spoiled by having Continental and jetBlue as my hometown carriers, but American disappoints me every time-- I've never felt "taken care of" and "in good hands" the way I feel when I board a jetBlue or Continental plane...
JetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7802 times:
I am not a Southwest fan at all. Infact - that's all we flew for awhile and I hated almost every experience. Now that a lot of airlines have brought their prices down, my family and I are loyal customers to JetBlue and Continental. However - I can't stand Southwest and I will do anything in my power to not book a ticket on them.
Not all of us can be heroes, some of us can only stand on the sidewalk and clap as they go by.
AirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7779 times:
Hum my worst airlines;
Eastern; oh yes out of business
Braniff, too texan, darn out of business
TWA, bad service once Ichan purchased them, on yes out of business
any one seeing a pattern here..
Northwest; morally bankrupt company,
QXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2408 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7763 times:
Quoting AirWillie6475 (Reply 14): It's just sad what people put up with so they could save a few bucks. I guarantee you that Southwest does not have a market base like other airlines do because of customer loyalty. If they raised their fares like any other airline, not many would fly them. Let's see what happens when their fuel hedges run out.
Well based off of the show "Airline" I am kind of glad that they keep their prices down for those "weird" people. I would rather them fly on Southwest then them joining me on my HP/US or DL flights. Saves me the worrie headache. Thats the main reason I dont fly Southwest is the people that fly them. I have flown them 2 times. Once out of DTW and once out of ABQ and it was fine. But the selfish passangers on those flights that all run to the gate at the same time, the ones that stink like no other!, the ones that like to yell a lot, the ones that demand this and that, must I go on?
ThePRGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 7738 times:
Alitalia for sure
Completely comedy - appaling customer service on both the ground and in the air. Rude staff left right and centre, and ageing (or at least feels it) Mad Dogs that flitter about all over the boot and internationally.
Needless to say I have 3 more flights scheduled with them so bring it on!
: I completely agree with you. I hate Southwest for their low fares. I mean I like their show and stuff, but they completely destroy traditional airlin
: Why do you hate Crandall? AA has 100% of their mx in the United States. I don't really hate any airlines, but I will not fly: -AZ (Gross planes, crap
: I find it very coincidental that when southwest came into the picture, deregulation also came into the picture not too long afterward. They took away
: No, we don't ALL have a consensus. What a horribly logically flawed sentence. I've never flown Southwest (I'm from MSP) and I do find it horribly uni
: Easyjet is not a bad airline when you compare what you pay versus what you get, but from the second I sat down in the seat, I was looking forward to g
: Ryanair- Takes the fun out of flying, as low as it gets I didn't exactly rate IB either when I flew them and i'm not the biggest fan of "full frills"
: Excuse me, I will make sure that I go to you next time for a grammar check before I post something. I hate them and I want them to be liquidated, and
: They have people that like like the airline because of the GR8 service and no cherge snacks and drinks... un like UA
: First off, they do charge for alcoholic drings, and you would get the same thing on a shorthaul flight on UA, as you would southwest. And dont single
: The difference between UA and WN prices: UA charges for snackboxes, while WN doesn't charge for them on the flights long enough to have them. UA charg
: Did you hear that everybody we should be thankful that WN doesn't charge for crackers. Golly Gee! Thanks Southwest! Happy day![Edited 2006-10-01 02:5
: Same here. There are no airlines I hate, but there are airlines I will not fly with. Ryanair being the first among equals in the Western World. No th
: I have no hate for any airline just my preference. And my preference is not to fly Southwest or Northwest.
: I don't "hate" any airline, but there are those I won't use if I have the choice and certainly not if I'm paying: AirTran because of lack of legroom,
: The airline I work for does compete directly with southwest.
: I happily pay higher ticket prices to fly on an airline that has class and doesnt treat you like cattle...
: Ryanair Air Madrid Air Plus Comet All these 3 "airlines" are the worst, at least in Europe. Better to be forgotten. I do agree with you.
: Can you really talk about "hate" concerning an airline ? However, there are some airlines I will NEVER fly and wish they'll go out of business soon :
: "Airbus?" From what i have heard, they have nothing on Ryannair. One airline I have NEVER or WILL EVER fly is AmericanAirlines. The reason: their lon
: Pffftttt. If you're going to say you "hate" something for a poorly-argued reason, why shouldn't people defend them, or at least critique your hatred?
: regardless if southwest is the anti christ of legacy carriers....they do have the highest paying jobs in the industry...
: We pay higher than southwest starting.... Because this thread is about what airlines we hate, not lets defend the airline. And take the time to read
: Will you please SETTLE DOWN and not treat my comments with complete disdain? I'm trying to be factual here (and WN doesn't have crackers on the non-s
: I could not have said it any better. Southwest is the epitome of everything bad in an airline. Their service sucks, their colors suck, etc. I fly for
: They dont have the highest starting wages for CSR positions...
: Actually, I meant that more at the thread in general. Other than the "premium cabin" (which I don't really care about) and "puts good airlines out of
: Well there you go. You have a valid reason. Thank you!
: It's rather sad and immature to hate an airline. So, I don't. In fact, I can't think of any I dislike.
: Well we all know these airlines are gonna be around for a very long time Most will agree with me that they are one of the very best airlines around
: I like to fly US, but not if I have to hop on YV to get to where I need to go!!
: I agree with you 100%, Emirates is one of the best out there right now as far as services and perks are concerned.
: Agree 100% Glenn! I like FR, U2 and SW for the fact they bring cheap travel and the fact they are are some of the most successful airlines around tod
: Hahaha, thats a good one, whens the last time you checked. CO outsources a lot of their ground work as well. Last I knew WN did all their own maint.
: Alitalia gets my vote hands down, crap service and dirty uncomfortable aircraft. They should be ashamed to call themselves the national airline of suc
: I dislike CO and NW! regards: DALelite
: Last I knew, they did not: http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2005/airline_maintenance.html "From the Wall Street Journal: Airlines Outsourcing Mo
: I have to say EI. I flew them BWI-SNN-BWI on a great fare on an A333 but the service was absolutly apalling. And the breakfast service was OJ or Water
: Heard ya the first time. Thanks You are in a 747LCF cargo bay, ALONE.. Just to let you know. .. Maybe if you flew us more you would realize how much
: I was exaggerating a bit. No one was explicitly unhappy on my flights, either. Just bored. Like a smiley face with just a plain horizontal line for t
: AMERICAN AIRLINES. From their boring livery, to their boring commercials, to their crappy MD-80s with no IFE...nothing about them inspires me to fly.
: Change all "Northwest" to SINGAPORE AIRLINES. Yes, with every fiber of my being, for a very obvious reason.
: I like Northwest because it is based in Minnesota which I only have good memories of. My exgirlfriend lives there (we might start dating again soon )