Ratypus From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 177 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 14533 times:
can't comment on the on-board product - anecdotally, Virgin is probably a bit more extravagant than BA Club World, as its 'upper class' and standing in for both business and first (though think BA First would trounce Upper Class) - if you're paying for yourself suggest you will get a better price on BA Business
However, another thing to consider is the back-up, schedules etc - I was booking to fly to the US and chose BA because they had a much more comprehensive schedule (including a Boston-LHR daylight flight: no point trying to pretend its an overnighter at barely over 6 hours long....) and because if a flight gets cancelled I know BA have about a zillion east coast-UK flights to put me on later!
BCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 14422 times:
For me it will always be BA Club World rather than VS Upper Class. BA is an airline that is formal and upmarket, has consistently high standards both on the ground and in the air, and where the F/As convey a professional and unobtrusive approach. VS is a brand (that happens to operate some aircraft) rather than an airline, that is loud, in your mouth and over-hyped, where standards of service are inconsistent, and where the F/As seem to be chosen for their looks and personality rather than their suitability for the job.
Whilst VS Upper Class might have marginally larger lie-flat seats and (on some but not all of their aircraft) 79.5” pitch and 22.0” width, as opposed to the standard 73.0” and 20.0” in Club World, and the edge in IFE (again in some but not all of their aircraft), remember that BA will soon be revealing their new Club World which will eventually be in all their long-haul aircraft. Neither the (possibility of) a larger lie-flat seat or (again the possibility of) extra pitch on VS is enough to persuade me to accept their inferior service.
The other deciding factor for me is BA’s frequency and back-up. For many of the destinations where they compete with VS, BA offers multiple frequencies of services, so they could probably get you on another of their services on the same day when things go wrong. As VS only has a daily (or even less frequent) service, chances are that you will be stranded for longer with limited back-up available.
[Edited 2006-10-18 18:23:08]
MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
1stfl94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 1455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 14403 times:
Quoting BCAL (Reply 5): Whilst VS Upper Class might have marginally larger lie-flat seats and (on some but not all of their aircraft)
The Upper Class Suites are now on ALL VS aircraft. Personally, aside from the Bar and Beauty treatments on VS Upper Class and Club World are very similar. I'd just go for the best deal to be quite honest
LH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 14310 times:
Quoting Anirudhvs (Reply 7): what do u mean by this...explain..!! thanks..anirudh..
I believe he was referring to the much-publicized incident where a BA 747 took off from LAX and during climb-out had an engine failure. Upon conferring with London ops the pilots decided to continue on to LHR rather than return to LAX. The plane eventually had to make a refuelling stop at MAN because of the lower altitudes and slower flying speeds. Incidentally, the same aircraft had ANOTHER engine failure, this time on SIN-LHR but was able to make it to LHR without problem since this occurred much later into the flight.
It wouldn't be fair for me to make a comparison since I haven't flown in Upper Class but I would say that Club World is a hard product to beat and it will only get tougher when the new seat débuts later this year.
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