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User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 15802 times:

the DRUMROLL:

Mandala!

from these beauties:


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to one of the worst, ugliest scheme I've ever seen:


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Didn't think an airplane could be ugly until I saw such combination of titles, slapped on a white plane and nice logo that is unfortunately cut.. I don't mind an oversized crappy logo being cut in this latest horrible design trend, but cutting such an elaborate design?!?

For some reason the A319s and A320s have the distinction of usually introducing some downright fugly colorschemes. Doesn't let us down this time either lol.

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User currently offlineKalakaua From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1516 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days ago) and read 15736 times:

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Thread starter):
For some reason the A319s and A320s have the distinction of usually introducing some downright fugly colorschemes. Doesn't let us down this time either lol.

I was about to say...



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 15402 times:

I dont find anything ugly about the scheme, just that its a bit too simple, the cut design also doesnt look bad, if they hadnt cut it it would have remained same small size as on the previous schemes, thanks to the cut they have managed to increase the logo in size.

User currently offlineSBN580 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 401 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 15259 times:

Yeah, not ugly, just boring. The first one, top picture on left is very classic looking. They should have just stuck with that one. The all blue and gold is ok, except for the HUGE letters. I hate that on just about every plane. And the over sized tail logos are soooo boring. And is that a slogan in English next to the forward door that reads, "Truly Airline," in English?


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User currently offlineOldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 15120 times:

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Thread starter):
For some reason the A319s and A320s have the distinction of usually introducing some downright fugly colorschemes.

Yeah, let us start a conspiracy thread about the evil influence of Airbus on airline schemes. Big grin

BTW, I like the new scheme more than the old one. (ooh, ... this evil influence again ...  bitelip  )

Axel



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User currently offlineAccess-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1939 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 15121 times:

The colour schemes on the two 737 I can take but NOT ANOTHER EURO WHITE PLANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think its Europe conspiring all together with thei Euro-White Crap....When the European Union finally takes over the world, then they weil have every airline all white all the planes cane easily be painted the same.....Sort of like how all the Russian made TU- 104/114/124/134/154s were built with displaced maine gear...
For easier conversion to bombers....no Main gear in the fuselage to impede with a converted Bomb-bay....

Access-Air  Smile



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User currently offlineZRHnerd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 15106 times:

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 5):
I think its Europe conspiring all together with thei Euro-White Crap

lol thats the worst bs ive read in ages, you just made my day, thanks Big grin


User currently offlineOldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 15088 times:

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 5):
I think its Europe conspiring all together with thei Euro-White Crap....When the European Union finally takes over the world, then they weil have every airline all white all the planes cane easily be painted the same.....Sort of like how all the Russian made TU- 104/114/124/134/154s were built with displaced maine gear...
For easier conversion to bombers....no Main gear in the fuselage to impede with a converted Bomb-bay....

Here it comes! It`s not Airbus. It`s Europe, which starts to invade Indonesia! (ooh, ... there is it again. Holy sh**, the origin of the evil is Airbusland! )

I hope you both are kidding.

Axel

[Edited 2006-10-20 15:02:43]


Wer nichts weiss muss alles glauben
User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6858 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 15001 times:

Miami707x,

The 2005 and 1st2006 liveries are only with 2 and 1 aircraft... For most people, its from:

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to the "current" one...
The current one is stuck in Shannon actually, and no one knows if it'll make it to Mandala service (according to some people at new owners Indigo).

But the ugliest Mandala c/s must be:

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This new A320 scheme for Mandala is BORING. It would have been better if they put some sort of motifs from the tail to the fuselage to taper below the title.. that'll make it less boring and probably make the new logo work!

Many here have termed the new Mandala scheme as not Eurowhite, but Boringwhite... it's worse than some Eurowhites we've seen...  Smile

Mandala499



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User currently offlineOldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 14952 times:

This "eurowhite" scheme


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is definitely influenced by the Garuda colors:


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And this


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is influenced by this:


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They simply react on their competitors.

And the new Mandala colors are far better than the ameriwhite scheme of the Boeings of Lion Airlines!  Wink

Axel

[Edited 2006-10-20 15:31:52]


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User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6858 posts, RR: 75
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 14875 times:

Well, the Eurowhite with Blue Tail was from:

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to:

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Then to:

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Then to the Eurowhite with Blue Tail.

Mandala have had the blue tail since the 80s... So, there is the Garuda influence to consider but also a "return to the old c/s"... I was told that after they decided the white tail scheme was not liked, they even tried to go back to the 80s c/s 732 (see the Electra c/s) before getting rid off the cheatline... LOL

But then, don't you see similarities in:


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With...

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I blame Landor for starting the Eurowhite scheme with GA in 1986!

Lateredit:
Anyways, the Mandala current scheme is not only a reaction to Lion, but perhaps Batavia too! The all white scheme of the 90s was a reaction to Bouraq's all white scheme, which they quicklly reverted to a white body and standard tail... then they reverted back to the old scheme, and Mandala tried to revert back too, but they settled on the 2000 - 2006 scheme.

From their website... with the A320 stuck in Shannon due to Eirjet's bankruptcy

No Flight Number Routes Depart Time Arrival Time Stop Aircraft Type
1 RI 272 21OCT CGKSUB 10:05 11:25 0 320
2 RI 274 21OCT CGKSUB 13:50 15:10 0 320
3 RI 276 21OCT CGKSUB 17:35 18:55 0 320

It shows availability as ZERO... we're not sure if this is cancelled, or they've resched' another aircraft for it.
OH DEAR! With the Eid/End of Ramadan coming next week, they'll loose some $$ because of this!!!!

Mandala499

Mandala499

[Edited 2006-10-20 15:34:05]

[Edited 2006-10-20 15:41:43]


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User currently offlineOldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 14798 times:

Mandala499, does the Mandala company tries to change its airline to a LCC?

Axel

[Edited 2006-10-20 15:44:45]


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User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6858 posts, RR: 75
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 14750 times:

They tried to... They were slow in reacting to the Low Fare carriers... Eventually they decided to cut cabin service and add 50% more seats (from 90, to 120 seats) on their 732s... They just couldn't react... so, the last ditch efforts were to try and convert it to a full LCC... but then as always, they couldn't make it all the way! (Most of the players here claiming to be LCCs are in reality, LFCs...)

The current plans is to convert Mandala into a full LCC in par with Tiger Airways (co-owned by Mandala's recent co-owners)

Mandala499



When losing situational awareness, pray Cumulus Granitus isn't nearby !
User currently offlineBigOrange From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2365 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 14424 times:

Quoting SBN580 (Reply 3):
The first one, top picture on left is very classic looking. They should have just stuck with that one.

It looks too much like Ryanair, and is very 70's looking. The gold one looks the best to me.


User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 14417 times:

Quoting Oldeuropean (Reply 4):
Yeah, let us start a conspiracy thread about the evil influence of Airbus on airline schemes.

Actually it's not a conspiracy, but your beloved Airbus has designed some of the liveries out there such as SriLankan and it's desinflating peacock logo. Shame, that crappy look replaced an awesome, elegant paintscheme.

With some exceptions it's almost a rule that when an airline introduces the A320/319 and they have lines in the fuselage, these planes introduce an eurowhite look to the fleet. Airbus could be suggesting this.

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 5):
I think its Europe conspiring all together with thei Euro-White Crap....When the European Union finally takes over the world, then they weil have every airline all white all the planes cane easily be painted the same.....

ROFL  silly 

Quoting Oldeuropean (Reply 9):
They simply react on their competitors.

let's paint the plane white because it will look "professional"(sarcastically). Our comopetitor has a new ugly look, let's match it! At least vintage Mandala and Lion have normal logos. If anything that looks more "professional" to me.

I have to say I'm surprised how everyone likes this.. I was just so disappointed because Indonesia is one of the last places left where one could see colorful, pretty aircraft that makes one stop and look. There are some airlines there that have a white fuselage such as Merpati, but the blue is a "happy" blue, and the orange stripes look great.

I've seen a couple of Indonesian airlines myself blue/pink 727 of Jatayu and green 737 of Linus Air being pained here in the states. I was impressed at how cool the planes looked.

What really bothers me though, is passing by an airport and seen all these blue and white liveries of CO, USA3000, new USAirways aircraft and others that from far away just blend into the buildings because the don't stand out. Dark blue tails don't stand out either.

The 2nd ugliest colors in Indonesia:

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although the look seems to have been changed to this now:

which is not as ugly, but still pretty bad:

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Nice older livery for comparison:

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Note to Mandala499:
Can you find out what was the logic for this new "colors"? I know it was painted in Europe, but the airline must have approved of the look I guess.


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 14360 times:

The logic to me seeems to be simplicity, easy application leading cost effectiveness especailly in case of lease.

User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6858 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 13211 times:

Miami707x,
Well, which colours? Mandala or Batavia's new colours?

Mandala?
2005 colours were put in to service to provide a fresher image of Mandala which was loosing in the market due to its slow reaction to market behaviour. They just wanted a more classical look, as a reminder of Mandala's former glories  Smile The Medan crash stopped all that.  Sad

2006 Colours was to mark the take over from the old owners by Cardig Air (Cargo operator), who'd hold the stakes until negotiations with Indigo investments would be finalised. They introduced more of the gold to mark the change in owners after 30 years. They changed the crew uniform to blue with gold trim instead of the blue pants and gold/yellow jackets... ie: shove the gold out onto the plane... LOL

So, that's how far I followed it and this new c/s was... err.. shocking. Why they changed the mandala wheel to the flower is just one part of the mystery, and given no change in the basic colours, I feel that it is just nothing more than a "reaction" added with a half hearted attempt to provide a fresh image.

Batavia's
For Batavia's new C/S... the old C/S have been cited at times as "the old Merpati" c/s... As a result, the public sees it as a dated image. Their uniform didn't help either, an orange jacket and black pants... while it is neat, it does at times, look very dated.

The Billboard C/S was just a simplification. The A319 C/S was a compromise between a billboard, and advertising the fact that they're flying brand new A319s... The blue tail is OK... So, while many appreciate it's trying to keep the "butterfly B" as its tail logo, almost everyone agree that the old cheatline or the billboard would have been better, but that was all swept aside to the more important "Look everyone, we're flying factory fresh A319s !"

Sad (tacky) really... maybe I should look for a new username?  Smile

Mandala499



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User currently offlineSkyHigh777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 13063 times:

In my opinion, the latest Aeromexico color scheme change went from beautiful to miserable. I guess I'll have to get used to it!!


Prepare for take-off.
User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 11925 times:

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When the European Union finally takes over the world

Nahh, they'll be too busy trying to figure out which country is going to lose Airbus workers...  duck 

Quote:
In my opinion, the latest Aeromexico color scheme change went from beautiful to miserable.

Right country, wrong airline:

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Toss-up:
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User currently offlineJunction From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 767 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 11268 times:

I would vote any day for the return of the 1970s style fat cheat lines for all airlines. The mostly white fuselage is becoming more and more popular these days, and it looks a little unfinished to me.

User currently offlineKLM685 From Mexico, joined May 2005, 1577 posts, RR: 18
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 11126 times:

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 18):
Toss-up:

I don't think that the silver livery from AM was a toss up. It was definately one of the best around plus original. AM was an exception to the Euro-white rule that now seems to be globalized.

The new scheme is like a punch in the stomach.



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User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10798 times:

Wouldn't less paint variety mean less cost and therefore less weiight and drag on the aircraft??

I'm not a color-freak like some o'yall.



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User currently offlinePRAirbus From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2005, 1139 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10624 times:

Delta's, Aeromexico and Air Canada are among the most disappointing!  Sad

User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6807 posts, RR: 77
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10046 times:

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Thread starter):
For some reason the A319s and A320s have the distinction of usually introducing some downright fugly colorschemes.



Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 14):
With some exceptions it's almost a rule that when an airline introduces the A320/319 and they have lines in the fuselage, these planes introduce an eurowhite look to the fleet. Airbus could be suggesting this.

 Yeah sure


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User currently offlineEpidaurus From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 9592 times:

Quoting SBN580 (Reply 3):
And is that a slogan in English next to the forward door that reads, "Truly Airline," in English?

It says Truly Airline. And that is truly amaze.


25 Irish251 : After all the debate about the Mandala A320, this aircraft will probably not now be going to the airline, for legal reasons. Eirjet's EI-DIJ has alrea
26 Goodbye : Airbus: "Let's piss off all the A.Net Airbus bashers by suggesting an all white livery!". Nonsense. Something about "true colours shining through" wi
27 Post contains links and images 3201 : Anyone wanna vote for this? View Large View MediumPhoto © Shotaro Shimizu
28 Post contains links and images American777 : I personally would have liked for NW to keep their old livery. Their logo on the tail of the old livery was just awesome. Their new livery is just bor
29 Post contains images Domokun : I was laughing in my head when I realized the two 732's had "liked" schemes and the 320 had a Euro-White scheme.... Seriously though; perhaps it is n
30 Mandala499 : Irish251, Thanks for the update... I guess it'll be cheaper if it's an all white for them to go to the 2000-2005 scheme... LOL When did it depart? 320
31 Post contains images MIAMIx707 : more like the vomit that follows.. eww I also think Aeromexico's best look was the red with metallic. The now replaced one looks good if there's ligh
32 ASTROJET707 : It is apparent WalMart must stock JET-WHITE paint...it is all the rage...and cheap too! AJ707
33 Post contains links Mandala499 : OK Miami707x, Since it's your a.net birthday, let me give you these... http://www.indoflyer.net/indophotos/view.asp?id=1169 http://www.indoflyer.net/i
34 Post contains images PlaneHunter : Just a question of time management. But probably you wouldn't even find so many examples because numerous airlines already had white liveries before
35 Post contains images MIAMIx707 : lol yes I bet. thanks Mandala499. Loved the presents even the TopAir 727 in the back is pretty interesting.. never heard of that airline. cheers
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