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User currently offlineUAL757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 807 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7537 times:

Anybody know where I can find cheap first class deals for any domestic united states flights? I don't want to use my UA miles, or hope for an upgrade!!!



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User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5455 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7513 times:

One of the best deals is Airtran...they offer 1st Class for a modest premium.

On US/United it's $50 per 500 miles, but only if there's seats left after the upgrades...not common.


Jimbo



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User currently offlineWalter747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1440 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7513 times:

US claims to have a cheap(they use affordable) FC seat on their website


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31433 posts, RR: 85
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7502 times:
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AS is usually pretty reasonable and where UA competes with them, offers similar prices. The advantage with AS is they are true "F" fares so unrestricted and refundable. UA's are usually "Q-UP" so they're Economy fares that book into First Class (A fare basis) but incur fees for changes and are non-refundable.

User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7489 times:

US can upgrade you at the gate for a reasonable amount. They offered it for 200.00 for a LAX-PIT leg and only 50.00 for PIT-BOS. Not Bad.


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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7460 times:

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 1):
One of the best deals is Airtran...they offer 1st Class for a modest premium.

I'm flying AirTran Thursday evening and strongly considering taking advantage of this. I saw on their website they upped the price $5 per segment, so "short segments" are now $40 instead of $35, which is still pretty good. but what I really like about FL is that unlike other carriers, you can upgrade whether you bought the Full Y-Fare or the Super-Saver fare.


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9826 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7429 times:

One big change that many people appreciate since 9/11 is that first class fares are far more affordable than they use to be. Many airlines have discounted first class fares now. Yes they are more expensive than economy, but they are getting reasonable and are only between 1.5 and 3 times the price of economy on many routes. All the legacy carriers are doing this to some degree. You should be able to get between any two cities in the lower 48 states in first class for under $1000, which was something that was unheard of 10 years ago.

Quoting Walter747 (Reply 2):
US claims to have a cheap(they use affordable) FC seat on their website

I booked a roundtrip first class ticket for $900 and thought that it was fairly reasonable since it was only a $300 premium over economy.



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User currently offlineEchster From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7387 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 6):
I booked a roundtrip first class ticket for $900 and thought that it was fairly reasonable since it was only a $300 premium over economy.

I needed a late-notice ticket from SoCal to MCO in May to visit my ailing father. At the time a Y ticket was selling for $575 and an F ticket was selling for $820. Went with the F on CO and it was well worth it. It was the first time I ever flew CO and I haven't returned to DL since.


User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3350 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7372 times:

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 1):
One of the best deals is Airtran...they offer 1st Class for a modest premium.

AirTran offers Business Class, not First Class.

AAndrew


User currently offlineHVNandrew From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7372 times:

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 1):
One of the best deals is Airtran...they offer 1st Class for a modest premium.

Because it's not even a real first class. It's pre-boarding, with a slightly larger seat, and a free drink.

I've found outstanding deals on DL recently. Flying JFK-LAS-JFK for a weekend next month for under $800 in F.


User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7344 times:

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 8):
AirTran offers Business Class, not First Class.

AAndrew

Technically yes, but on the short segments, it really isn't all that different from legacy first class. I've only flown AirTran Biz Class once and that was ATL-MCO, so I can't say how different it is from legacy carriers on longer segments. My  twocents 


User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5455 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7326 times:

Quoting HVNandrew (Reply 9):
Because it's not even a real first class. It's pre-boarding, with a slightly larger seat, and a free drink.

I've found outstanding deals on DL recently. Flying JFK-LAS-JFK for a weekend next month for under $800 in F.

Did you just describe ALL domestic First Class?

But, actually Airtran has the widest seat of ANY domestic First Class, and comparable pitch (same as DL).

Please see: http://www.seatguru.com/charts/domestic_first_class.php

Pre-boarding ...yes, same as every other airline.

Free drink ...yes, same as every other airline depending on distance.

...and it's $638 NY-LAS.

Jimbo

[Edited 2006-10-25 06:04:33]


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User currently offlineHVNandrew From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7312 times:

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 11):
Did you just describe ALL domestic First Class?

Short haul, FL's product is a good thing. But the last time I was in F class on DL from ATL-LAX, I was on a 777 and was fed a full meal. I don't think FL does that.


User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5455 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7298 times:

Quoting HVNandrew (Reply 12):
I don't think FL does that.

Because they don't fly those distance non-stop  Wink

Jimbo



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7197 times:

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 13):
Because they don't fly those distance non-stop  Wink

But they do fly ATL-SFO, which is almost just as far.... Wink



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User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5455 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6950 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 14):
But they do fly ATL-SFO, which is almost just as far...

Ok, you win, so you don't get a meal...probably not top of your list on First Class requirements anyway...not mine...seat/legroom on a long trip (or short come to think of it), and the price is always a fixed amount higher than coach...very reasonable.

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 4):
US can upgrade you at the gate for a reasonable amount. They offered it for 200.00 for a LAX-PIT leg and only 50.00 for PIT-BOS. Not Bad.



Quoting Walter747 (Reply 2):
US claims to have a cheap(they use affordable) FC seat on their website

Yes, although the thing to remember about these "First up", or whatever they call them, is that they are only available after all the upgrades have been processed. On the busier routes, this means First Class is always full anyway, so the cheap upgrade is not available. I fly US every week, and this is rarely offered, in fact I often don't get my Medallion upgrade on my DCA-TPA leg.

Jimbo



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User currently offlineKevin777 From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6770 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 3):
AS is usually pretty reasonable and where UA competes with them, offers similar prices. The advantage with AS is they are true "F" fares so unrestricted and refundable. UA's are usually "Q-UP" so they're Economy fares that book into First Class (A fare basis) but incur fees for changes and are non-refundable

Anybody knows how many of these first-class fares that are actually "real" F-fares and how many that are just Y-like fares where you're seated in First Class? Does AS only offer "real" F fares? Are other airlines also only offering one F fare for travelling in First Class?

Sadly, the trend of restricted yet discounted premium tickets has yet to come to most places in Europe...

Btw, AirIndia offers a very cheap (real) F-fare on a small leg AMD-BOM (550 kms) that I'm definitely gonna try in December.. Just under USD 100 for flat-bed etc... Okay, overkill for an hours flight, but still.... then that'll be off the list off things to try..!

Kevin777



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31433 posts, RR: 85
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6619 times:
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Quoting Kevin777 (Reply 16):
Anybody knows how many of these first-class fares that are actually "real" F-fares and how many that are just Y-like fares where you're seated in First Class?

AS offers only "real" First Class fares (F fare basis and F booking code). The differentiation is they offer a discount if you book 7 days or more in advance.

UA offers "real" First Class fares and a plethora of "pseudo" First Class fares. UA offers "P" fares which are a Y fare basis and a P booking code. These fares are refundable and changeable. They also offer multiple types of "Q-UP" and "M-UP" fares. Note I made a mistake in my post above - they have an M or Q fare basis and an A booking code. Fares that do not end in an "N" are changeable and (sometimes) refundable. If they do end in an N, then they are not refundable and incur a $100 fee for each change.

As I only fly AS and UA, they are the two I am familiar with. But I know they other majors (CO, NW, DL, AA) have similar fares.


User currently offlineKevin777 From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 1173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6593 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 17):
UA offers "real" First Class fares and a plethora of "pseudo" First Class fares. UA offers "P" fares which are a Y fare basis and a P booking code. These fares are refundable and changeable

Wouldn't this in practice be the same as an F-fare? Or do the P fares have advance booking req?

Do you know if the "real" F-fares are all also IATA fares; that is interchangeable on an any IATA airline on the given route?

Thanks for the info btw!

Kevin777



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13202 posts, RR: 16
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6479 times:

Such discounted 1st/Biz seats should be of great help to and be used by 'persons of size'. Don't forget too that many businesses have contracts with specific airlines as their 'preferred' airline and volume discounts for their overall business of a certain monthly or annual goal or contracted discount pricing per seat/flight.

User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3713 posts, RR: 28
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6385 times:

In terms of cheap First Class tickets try this:
http://www.farecompare.com/search/yupfares?departure=JFK

Quoting Stitch (Reply 17):
AS offers only "real" First Class fares (F fare basis and F booking code). The differentiation is they offer a discount if you book 7 days or more in advance.

Although AA codeshares on AS book into 'A'. This was part of a BOS-SEA itinerary. Which is a royal pain in the backside because I creditted the flights to BA Exec Club and 'A' is used by AS for their redemption bookings in First...So they ended up posting to me BA account as ineligible flights. In the end I sent in my AA itinerary with price quote at the bottom and managed to get the miles  Smile



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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9826 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6301 times:

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 15):
Ok, you win, so you don't get a meal...probably not top of your list on First Class requirements anyway...not mine...seat/legroom on a long trip (or short come to think of it), and the price is always a fixed amount higher than coach...very reasonable.

I think food is an important perk. Yes you can bring on board food or often buy a prepackaged meal on board or get served a ridiculously small portion on Continental, but a heated meal makes a difference. It is a lot nicer to eat something with your free drinks.

But you are correct that a big seat is probably the biggest deciding factor for first class.



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User currently offlineFURUREFA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5726 times:

DL is really cheap; i flew BOS-ATL-BOS for $602.

Matt


User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3247 posts, RR: 22
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5726 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 21):
I think food is an important perk. Yes you can bring on board food or often buy a prepackaged meal on board or get served a ridiculously small portion on Continental, but a heated meal makes a difference. It is a lot nicer to eat something with your free drinks.

I agree, especially if (a) the flight is of non-trivial duration or (b) you have to go to the airport immediately after work and you don't have time to either eat beforehand or get a decent meal to go. Yes, wrapped to-go sandwiches are OK but, last time I flew domestic F on AA, I definitely appreciated the hot meal, ice cream, warm cookies, and pre-landing chocolate...

Tony



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