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JFK-SFO - UAL Or AA Biz Class...help Me Decide  
User currently offlineDmanmtl From Canada, joined May 2006, 92 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6457 times:

I have to fly from JFK to SFO in mid Nov. I usually Fly AC (I am in YUL) and have not tried any of the USA based airlines.

My company Allows biz class for a flight over 6 hours so I am curious to know which of these two airlines (or is there another I am missing) offers the best service, most comfortable seat and which one am I going to enjoy trying.

I have never flown a 757 so UA is looking interesting plus I get AC points (star alliance) but am trying to be open minded...

Help me out here!

D

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User currently onlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4414 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6416 times:

If I were you, I would take UA, just to gather up the points.

You'll be on a narrowbody 757 on UA instead of a widebody 767 on AA, but if being on a narrowbody for 6 hours doesn't bother you, go with UA.

Plus, you'll get to try out UA's ps product!


User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1613 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6409 times:

Quoting N62NA (Reply 1):
you'll get to try out UA's ps product!

Oh yeah, I would do this just to check out the full biz class 752 though living in CHI, UA is my preferred airline.

Have a great trip no matter what you chose.

M


User currently offlineBicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6409 times:

Move to the Aviation Polls and Preferences forum.

User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6396 times:

Well, if you're going to settle for a 757, do Delta.


The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlinePlanecrazy2 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 615 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6383 times:

United offers the edge in Business here. You get the international product and your own dvd player.


United Airlines - Worldwide Service
User currently offlineDmanmtl From Canada, joined May 2006, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6373 times:

Thanks for all the fast replys - I was going to ask about video on these planes - after a ecent experience on the AC Embraers I am now spolied by their great video system.

Evan - why do you suggest Delta - I thought they were somewhat second rate/vacationers airline (no intention to offend anyone with this comment)

D


User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6360 times:

I find DL's 757 F seats very comfortable. The main reason though is the Delta service. Flight attendants are the best on DL.


The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6311 times:

Quoting Dmanmtl (Reply 6):
Thanks for all the fast replys - I was going to ask about video on these planes - after a ecent experience on the AC Embraers I am now spolied by their great video system.

Go with UA, they have personal DVD players, excellent seats and from what I've heard, better food than Delta. Also, they have 15in(31cm)more legroom than Delta. www.unitedps.com

[Edited 2006-11-04 03:15:30]

[Edited 2006-11-04 03:25:21]

User currently offlineComorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4896 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6305 times:

I flew UA last year in Biz and was really impressed. I would strongly recommend the product - it's easily up to international standards.

User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6265 times:

AA is the leading carrier from JFK to both SFO/LAX..you would either get a 762 or a 763...I've flown AA from SFO-JFK-SFO....good service..but if your are looking for milage points, then I would go with UA....


"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4002 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 6220 times:
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DManMTL,
For me, this one is pretty easy to decide. UA p.s. all the way. Yes. They don't utilize 762s on this routing anymore, but there 752s that are specially configured for this premium market is a real treat. It almost feels like you're in a private jet and the service is up to international standards.
In regards to inflight service, meals, etc., this too is easy to choose. UA again. Much better than AA by any mark. Flight crews seem to be consistently good, not like on AA where you'll get a decent cabin crew on ocasion, rather than the norm.
Since you belong to AC frequent flyer program/Star Alliance, you'll get your mileage and I believe bonus miles for flying J.
Let us know what you decide.

LACA773


User currently offlinePilot3033 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 6191 times:

Not sure about J class, but I mentioned in other threads that I prefer AA F on these routes. I've always had better service in flight.
Can't speak for J though. Didn't AA recently update their J?



-Matt
User currently offlineMEACEDAR From Lebanon, joined Oct 2006, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 6175 times:

If you are getting miles definately go with United. United does have better seats and legroom than American and Delta in all classes. Delta has much less legroom, although has a better crew than United and American. United has much better Flight Attendant service than American but not Delta. To me Delta is the best if you are just talking about Flight Attendant hospitality, but everything else has another opinion. United is the way to go in your situation.  Smile

User currently offlineXpfg From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 633 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 6149 times:

The UA P.S. product is REALLY nice and by far my favorite. I have flown both AA and UA on these routes, been in all 3 classes on UA, and 2 on AA, and really do like the P.S. product over the two airlines. If it were standard UA F class vs. AA, I would say to go with AA, but when you throw UA P.S. in there, it's a new ball game. Very nice seats!

User currently offlineTbear815 From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 704 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6098 times:

In the Dinosaur years, the airlines had different aircraft with different levels of service on the trans-con. IIRC, both UA and AA had DC-7's flying a first class service (Red Carpet/Mercury??) and the DC-6B's flying a more economical flight (a bit longer flying time and more passengers). I don't know if the 6's could do w/b non-stop, but the DC-7's were the luxury plane of it's day. Not a great seller for Douglas, but a prestigious product. United's west coast/Honolulu first class service was part of this. The DC-6 series was popular plane - more economical than the DC-7 series.

Looks as though another cycle in inflight service is starting. UA's "p.s." service has the biggest feedback. And all positive. A specially configured aircraft for a niche market.

"Everything old is new again."

Rod


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User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4002 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6090 times:
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Also check out TR's in the trip reports section. Just do a search for LAX/SFO-JFK and back transcons.

LACA773


User currently offlineB707Stu From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6074 times:

Though I'm an X-AA employee I'd say UA all the way. For the PS intimacy of the 757 cabin and of course, channel 9!

User currently offlineDALelite From Switzerland, joined Jun 2000, 1770 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6062 times:

I would go for UA.

regards: DALelite



They loved to fly and it showed..
User currently offlineLevg79 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 994 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6052 times:

As B707Stu has already mentioned, having access to Channel 9 should be enough to convince you to choose UA. Also, we all expect to see a TR after your trip  Smile

Leo.



A mile of runway takes you to the world. A mile of highway takes you a mile.
User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6033 times:

I just prefer UA over AA.

Check fares, and try to be loyal to your FF program. The more you use it, the more you'll be rewarded.


User currently offlineDMANMTL From Canada, joined May 2006, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5980 times:

Thanks for all your input - I decided on United based on the feedback here about their PS product and the fact that I get enough airmiles with Aeroplan to get me into the elite club for next year.

Of the three airlines I checked out - the prices varied wildly, with Delta being the cheapest, however judging from the stats on their seats, the pitch is much less than United, to AA which was the most expensize...I realize there are a myriad of factors that contro this ... I just found it interesting.

Cheers to All

D In Mtl


User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5967 times:

Quoting DMANMTL (Reply 21):
I decided on United

Good choice !

Enjoy your trip.


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