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User currently offlineUnited777atGU From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 183 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 6819 times:

If you're working a narrow-body, or even a wide-body (in the manual pit / bulk pit / whatever you call it) loading bags, what is your favorite type of bag to load? I love the suitcases with the four-wheels that spin and roll in all directions. They're the easiest to load when you have to stack in the very back of the pit, the part where the belly goes up, and you slide down because you can't stay up there and load at the same time!! That's irritating, not fun or funny, actually... I just thought I'd ask (and maybe for some of you who are looking to buy new luggage, I'd thought I'd give you tips on what to buy to make ME happy...when you're flying United, that is)
Have a good night all.
United777@GU


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User currently offlineDLX737200 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1891 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 6774 times:

I ramp for Delta Connection at MCO so all I mainly work on are CRJ 200s and ERJ-135/145s. Anyway, my favorite type of bag are just normal roller bags with two wheels on the bottom. They are the easiest to stack if I get all the roller bags first. I can create some pretty tight stacks of bags when they're all around the same shape. I hate those ones with the four wheels you mention because they slide around in the stack and when loading them on a beltloader, I have to make sure they're placed upside down going up the belt otherwise they ALWAYS slide off. What a pain. My choice of bag:



Something like that.

-Justin

P.S. Shouldn't this be in Polls and Prefs?



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User currently offlineHPLASOps From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6761 times:

Quoting United777atGU (Thread starter):
I love the suitcases with the four-wheels that spin and roll in all directions.

Those were horrible, especially the plastic hardshell varities. I didn't even see the value/ease to the passenger. My other hated bags were the ones who would come in from Asia (Japan mostly) via LAX and they were the old style hard-shelled with the single handle on top. They were a pain in the ass to both upload and download, couldn't have been very much fun to carry around as a passenger, and well, just plain suck. One of my mental mottos on the ramp was "a passenger's bag will be treated with the same care it was packed with," meaning, if you throw your shit in an insufficient container, it was gonna get treated like shit. Overfill it, make it too heavy for it's size, and it will get messed up.

My favorite was the midsize rollers, in good condition, with handles on the top and side - ideal weight would be about 30 lbs (too light is actually dangerous for the goods inside as well would catch rampers off guard). And if there's a broken pull handle on it, please leave the bag at home. I still have a scar on my right arm from where a broken pull handle was sticking out of the bag and caught my arm. Like I said, you show us that you care about the contents inside, and we will show you the care back.


User currently offlineEXMEMWIDGET From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6756 times:

Zero Halliburton was my favorite when I was a ramp rat.

User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1439 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6752 times:

This is my favorite type...




User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4737 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6703 times:
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Favorite type of bag?? Why don't I list the most hated bags. I think that would be easier for rampers to talk about.

Bags I absolutely hate...

-The trapezoidal roller bags. I'm supposed to incorporate those into a stack?? W T F ?!

-Bags large enough to literally fit a toddler inside. Especially the big roller bags...that when standing up, go above my waist. And I'm 6ft tall!! Geeez...

-The plastic hard-shell bags. Most of them have a clip that holds the bag shut. This clip is underneath the handle. I've had that clip pop open a few times. Ouch #1 comes from your fingers being pinched between this clip and the handle. Ouch #2, followed by a loud expletive, comes from that bag nearly pulling your arm off as your hand goes with the bag (because it's now caught in the handle) when you stack/unstack/when it slides off the stack because it's too slick to stay put! To avoid that you try to lift the bag without using the handle, but that slick outer shell makes the bag very slick when trying to handle it with gloves. These things should be banned...ugh.

-Bags packed with liquid. The weight of the bag/center of gravity shifting as you handle it is no fun to deal with.

-Large duffel bags that have absolutely no solid form and weigh 50-100 pounds. The weight on both sides just rolls right over your body as you try to lift the bag. Pain in the ass!!

-Last, but definitely not least...those damn roller bags that have Velcro under the handle!! Why on earth, would the designers of the bags, place Velcro under the handle allowing the handle to stick firmly to the side of the bag?!? WTF? What could possible be so practical about that?!?! It's quite annoying to try and grab a bag (using gloves) by the handle, and not be able to because the handle is secured to the side of the bag!

-Bags that have the large hook for hanging it up in a closet. Not a pleasant surprise when that hook catches you, and/or your clothing while you handle it. RIIIIIIIIIIIP...

Ok that was fun. Now that I got that out of my system...



ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3963 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6648 times:

The worst are the hardshell semi-rounded ones and the trapezoidal bags.

I also despise the newer ones that have velcro under the handle (please tell me a useful reason for this!).

Easiest are the smaller duffels and the small rollaboard style.

Then again, there's the ever-rare empty luggage  Smile


User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2153 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6625 times:

Most hated bag? The next one up the belt...grin!

Second most hated? The one you pull for security buried all the way at the pit wall.

[Edited 2006-11-07 13:04:01]

User currently offlineRampRat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1488 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6575 times:

My most hated bag is the Saigon/Manila special.



User currently offlineUnited777atGU From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6517 times:

I don't find the four wheel suitcases bad at all actually. Any bag that goes on a belt loader--except for the ones with several straps--moves up the belt with ease. When you're in the pit of a 757 however, how are you going to get that bag from the door to where you are without having to move and pick it up? If it has four wheels, it can be pushed to you! I love that. I stack them pretty well, those four-wheeled suitcases. Hard shells can be a pain, but I never really had a problem with bags not stacking well. For me it's getting the bags to me...and the weight of the bag, of course, but that's an entirely different story...one that riles us all, I know...  Angry  gnasher 


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User currently offlineR311music From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6440 times:

I have to agree with Silver1SWA, those trapezodial shaped bags are the worse. I usually end up just throwing those over my stack if possible, as there is almost now way to incorporate them into a stack. Also I hate when people bring large moving type boxes. They usually are flimsy and cannot support anything on top of them, yet they take up a ton of room. Other than that, I like most bags. Duffle bags are nice in corners and on the top row. Hard shells can be a pain, but if you have a good base, it's nothing to difficult.


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User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6390 times:

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 5):
-The trapezoidal roller bags. I'm supposed to incorporate those into a stack?? W T F ?!



Quoting R311music (Reply 10):
those trapezodial shaped bags are the worse

 checkmark   hissyfit 
Who ever designed those bags deserves to be hit upside the head with one of them, assuming you can lift it that high conisdering those bags usually weigh 70 pounds or more...

My personal favorite is the hard-bottomed duffel bags with rollers on one side. I don't know why, but when I get a bunch of these bags along with the typical roller bags, everything just looks all purdy-like and stable when I'm done... Big grin


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3173 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6376 times:

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 6):
Then again, there's the ever-rare empty luggage

he he I've sent one of those once, a large Samsonite with absolutely nothing in in...always hoped I was getting stopped in customs so I could say "Nothing" when they asked me what was is it  Wink


....and no! I didn't do it for fun.


User currently offlineFlanker From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 6268 times:

i used to work for swissport at ORD. when we would do the mexicanas, i liked loading/unloading all the bags that have a defined shape and that were easy to handle and grip.


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User currently offlineAirEMS From United States of America, joined May 2004, 684 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 6237 times:

I'd just like to add to all the ramp workers.... I would like to say thank you to all of you for the job that you do! I have never had my luggage lost or damaged and I feel that all of you are the first step in this.

I think ramp workers are underappreciated and are some unsung hero's in the industry.

So again I say thank you


-Carl



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User currently offlineM404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2220 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6038 times:
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My favorite was always the ladies little makeup/cosmetic thing with locks that simply didn't. You pull on it and the contents fly from one end to the other. The good part was they got lighter to more they were handled. On the opposite end is any anything that weight more than me. Or is from India, same thing.


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User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3963 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6032 times:

How about those bags that have straps connecting the zippers? When loading bags, boy those suuuure look like regular handles. But don't put any force on them because those zippers come tearing off in a hurry.

User currently offlineSunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2021 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6003 times:

My lest Favorite type of bag......
Any heavy bag. These people should be forced to take Greyhound!!!. How about the big suitcases that people use when they go overseas. Oh my sore back and arms.



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User currently offlineAntoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1531 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5923 times:

Golf clubs! I HATE Golf Clubs. You can't do ANYTHING with them until pretty much everything ele is loaded on most planes.

Thankfully, I don't have to worry about that at this point in my life.  Smile



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User currently offlineSurferX From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5794 times:
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I hate the ones with the tags on them that say "Heavy". Why the hell are people packing everything they own into a suitcase to go from LAS to LGB?

User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5774 times:

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 2):
Those were horrible, especially the plastic hardshell varities. I didn't even see the value/ease to the passenger. My other hated bags were the ones who would come in from Asia (Japan mostly) via LAX and they were the old style hard-shelled with the single handle on top. They were a pain in the ass to both upload and download, couldn't have been very much fun to carry around as a passenger, and well, just plain suck. One of my mental mottos on the ramp was "a passenger's bag will be treated with the same care it was packed with," meaning, if you throw your shit in an insufficient container, it was gonna get treated like shit. Overfill it, make it too heavy for it's size, and it will get messed up.

My favorite was the midsize rollers, in good condition, with handles on the top and side - ideal weight would be about 30 lbs (too light is actually dangerous for the goods inside as well would catch rampers off guard). And if there's a broken pull handle on it, please leave the bag at home. I still have a scar on my right arm from where a broken pull handle was sticking out of the bag and caught my arm. Like I said, you show us that you care about the contents inside, and we will show you the care back.

Well said, I'll keep that in mind if I ever get back on the ramp.

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 5):
Bags I absolutely hate...

-The trapezoidal roller bags. I'm supposed to incorporate those into a stack?? W T F ?!

-Bags large enough to literally fit a toddler inside. Especially the big roller bags...that when standing up, go above my waist. And I'm 6ft tall!! Geeez...

-The plastic hard-shell bags. Most of them have a clip that holds the bag shut. This clip is underneath the handle. I've had that clip pop open a few times. Ouch #1 comes from your fingers being pinched between this clip and the handle. Ouch #2, followed by a loud expletive, comes from that bag nearly pulling your arm off as your hand goes with the bag (because it's now caught in the handle) when you stack/unstack/when it slides off the stack because it's too slick to stay put! To avoid that you try to lift the bag without using the handle, but that slick outer shell makes the bag very slick when trying to handle it with gloves. These things should be banned...ugh.

-Bags packed with liquid. The weight of the bag/center of gravity shifting as you handle it is no fun to deal with.

-Large duffel bags that have absolutely no solid form and weigh 50-100 pounds. The weight on both sides just rolls right over your body as you try to lift the bag. Pain in the ass!!

-Last, but definitely not least...those damn roller bags that have Velcro under the handle!! Why on earth, would the designers of the bags, place Velcro under the handle allowing the handle to stick firmly to the side of the bag?!? WTF? What could possible be so practical about that?!?! It's quite annoying to try and grab a bag (using gloves) by the handle, and not be able to because the handle is secured to the side of the bag!

-Bags that have the large hook for hanging it up in a closet. Not a pleasant surprise when that hook catches you, and/or your clothing while you handle it. RIIIIIIIIIIIP...

I couldn't agree more. I'd say the broken handles were my least favorite, although oversized or overpacked bags were a close second. Work any JFK flight and you'll understand what I mean.



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User currently offlineDavestanKSAN From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1678 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5666 times:

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 5):
The trapezoidal roller bags. I'm supposed to incorporate those into a stack?? W T F ?!



Quoting R311music (Reply 10):
Also I hate when people bring large moving type boxes. They usually are flimsy and cannot support anything on top of them, yet they take up a ton of room.



Quoting Antoniemey (Reply 18):
Golf clubs! I HATE Golf Clubs.

   AMEN!

I remember my stack was looking oh so beautiful and then one of those stupid trapezoid bags came up the belt    GRRRH! haha.

And heavy moving boxes......you can't really do anything with them especially if you're in an MD-80 or smaller pit a/c.

And golf clubs....especially when they didn't have a cover on them. What the heck.

I'll add some more:

Water coolers. We had enough fish to deal with at AS then we get people taking ice chests full of their morning catch back home with them.

Fishing Poles. Especially popular on flights going to Cabo San Lucas.

Surfboards. Really fragile, and not much room for them to go.

Quoting Hiflyer (Reply 7):
Second most hated? The one you pull for security buried all the way at the pit wall.

   for sure.

"Ramp, we're looking for a bag, last name XXXX."
"Okay, can we have a description of the bag?"
"uhh sure, okay, it's a black 22."

   great.

And it ends up being a blue duffle bag....grrrh...haha.

great post!

Dave

[Edited 2006-11-09 20:31:52]


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User currently offlineAntoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1531 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5634 times:

Quoting DavestanKSAN (Reply 21):
"uhh sure, okay, it's a black 22."

 banghead  great.

As anyone who've ever spent time in Baggage Claim knows... EVERY bag is a black 22.



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User currently offlineLHR777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5604 times:

OT - just a question for the ramp guys who load 757's - do they all have the telescopic loading system in the Fwd Hold, for compartment 2 (incorporating 3 bays)?

User currently offlineAvion346 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 184 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5599 times:

One time while working the bottom of the belt loader. I looked up to see a KAYAK coming down......somebody actually checked a KAYAK at the ticket counter! I actually took it out into the baggage claim area myself to meet the pax, and she was shocked that it arrived unscathed.

25 Post contains images Skyexramper : The bags I hate are those ridiculously oversized bags, either duffel or suitcase that you can dang near put every item you own it them. I'm not sure o
26 Smcmac32msn : As much as I've noticed people complaining about those trapezoidal bags, they can come in use... I haven't baggage handled (we got rid of our contract
27 Pdxcof9 : I work for co and f9 at pdx and the bags i absolutly hate are these plastic bags that go to guatamala city that weigh 70 pounds and they don't slide o
28 F9Animal : Oh yes. Those that travel to South America and Mexico pack everything. One guy tried to check in a friggin car engine once. WTF???? The Phillipines f
29 SkyexRamper : My friend at express jet once dealt with a captain who was comailing himself a 160hp lycoming engine for the plane the guy was building. That's the e
30 Lono : I remember back in the day with Wien... it was ok to check up to a 55 horsepower outboard as baggage... (intra Alaska only)...
31 Spotter : ANY bag going to India, Jamaica, and New Foundland, I swear people pack family members in there cases, Oh and the best a heavy bag without a heavy sti
32 QXRamperMEII : Wow these posts show that I'm not alone in the world of Bag Hating... As a humble Horizon ramper, I've spent 3 years honing my skills of hating baggag
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