Boeingpride800 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 430 posts, RR: 2 Posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4464 times:
What I want to do when I become older is probably like a lot of you. My dream is to become a commercial airline pilot for a stable airline with decent pay. Hah, now I'm only 15 and a freshman in high school but it is really what I want to do. And it may seem like a have a lot of time to figure out what I want to do, but it really isn't.
They all advise you to know what you would like to do after high school so you can take the right classes and it makes it easier to figure out what college you want to go to. I know exactly what I want to do, but the more I think about it I realize I'm not sure how to get there.
I've heard of a billion different ways to become an airline pilot like going to a flight school and being hired by a regional airline to get started. Or going to an aeronautical university like Embry-Riddle. Or one of the most common, join the Air Force. I was sure I wasn't going to join the air force because of all the things you hear, especially with Iraq and everything. But then when I thought about going to a flight school and being hired at a regional airline, I didn't really like the idea of being paid 17,000 a year and flying tiny planes either.
And going to an aeronautical university can be pretty pricey.
So at this time, I am not sure on how I'm going to reach my dream. But you have no idea of how much I want it. I pretty much can't wait to leave high school and go on to do what I want to do. I haven't taken any flying lessons yet but I am looking into it, and maybe possibly next spring. Money becomes another factor for that division. I am now considering the possibility of joining the Air Force, but I have 3 years left to decide.
Anyway, I was looking for some advice on how to become an airline pilot. Because if it doesn't seem possible for me to get there, or if the job outlook doesn't improve, I'm not sure what else it is I'll do for a career because I am really passionate about flying.
Ag92 From India, joined Jul 2006, 1317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4449 times:
I share the same dream as you, and I am doing my first year of GCSE in my school
1)Well you can go through the Air Force which is the cheapest option in terms of money but you should be prepared to die for your country
2)You can go to flying school like Oxford Aviation and then find a job there
3)Or you can take a degree in some major and then go to flying school
4)Or go to the cadet program of various airlines but I am not too sure if you have to do University for that or not, but they will probably prefer University applicants
Can some one please elaborate on the cadet program of airlines
If there are any more options then can you please post them. The best options if you ask me is to do 1 or 3 because when there are various applicants for a position then airlines then look at the smartest available or people who have gone through military
ZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7131 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4423 times:
Quoting Ag92 (Reply 1): 1)Well you can go through the Air Force which is the cheapest option in terms of money but you should be prepared to die for your country
Yeap. It's the cheapest way to do it, but you must remain bonded to the airforce for a significant amount of time as well. The cut rate for the air force is also very tough
Quoting Ag92 (Reply 1): 4)Or go to the cadet program of various airlines but I am not too sure if you have to do University for that or not, but they will probably prefer University applicants
They sure do. From what I know, in some cadet schemes the minimum (although not stated on their websites) are usually a degree of some sort
Becoming a pilot especially in Western countries is based on hard work, perseverence and also a little luck. I would imagine it would be tough finding a job in the States straighrt out of flight school. In other places such as Australia and NZ, the requirements are high as well. You need a large amount of experience and various ratings and qualifications before an airline will consider you as a candidate. Europe (from what I heard) is not easy as well. The fastest growing region is in Asia, and even then there are a number of factors to comply with such as citizenships, what ratings you have etc etc...
IAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4333 times:
Graduating from Riddle isn't going to get you immediately into the right seat at a major airline. Regardless of which route you go Military, flight school, or university you are going to have to pay your dues at a regional carrier until you build some part 121 flight time. Any way you do it there is a large time and financial commitment.
FutureUApilot From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1365 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4307 times:
I may have some information you would like. I'm a High School Senior, and have just completed my whole college search and application process. May I suggest the University of North Dakota. They are far cheaper than Embry Riddle. Be prepared to pay upwards of $45,000 if you go to Embry Riddle. The University of North Dakota (UND) on the other hand is about $13,000 on average depending on what state your from. That includes room and board, but doesn't include flight costs.
The top 4 flight colleges that the regionals really like are:
1. Embry Riddle
3. Purdue University
4. Western Michigan University
I would recommend you go to a major university instead of a dedicated flight school. There are a number of them out there such as the Delta Acadamy, Pan Am Acadamy, and Flight Safety Acadamy. They are alright if you already have a 2 or 4 year degree, but you leave them knowing how to fly, they do not offer any type of degree.
The Air Force is another very good way to go. Only problem is they will keep you in for a long time. It could be for a period of 10 years as of right now, but they are so pressed for pilots it could be much longer. It would be a shame to dream of flying for an air carrier and being stuck with AF planes, which are good in their own right, but they tend to have a few more projectiles flying at them then a normal airliner.
So you have to weigh your options. Be ready to flight instruct for a good few years outside of college. As a CFI you are making good money if you make $12,000 a year. I would personally fly for a charter company as well to build time and money. If you can get hired by a regional airline after a few years, the FO's aren't bringing in much more than a CFI, but if you can ride out the FO thing for 4-7 years and can grab a captain spot, the pay will increase a little bit.
Moving up to a Major after the regional will most likely inflict a pay cut on you as you move from a captain spot to a FO spot, but if it will help you in the future it should be worth it. Don't go to school thinking your going to become rich with this industry. I am prepared to live pretty simply as a flight instructor on my way to an airline.
So that's a little of my insight. If you have any specific questions, you can post them here or email me. I had to get serious about college stuff reciently, so I know a little bit! Good luck with everything, you choose a turbulant industry to get into, but I personally wouldn't have it any other way! Keep the blue side up...
Flinhion757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4232 times:
I for one also want to become a commercial airline pilot.
Quoting FutureUApilot (Reply 4): The Air Force is another very good way to go. Only problem is they will keep you in for a long time. It could be for a period of 10 years as of right now, but they are so pressed for pilots it could be much longer. It would be a shame to dream of flying for an air carrier and being stuck with AF planes, which are good in their own right, but they tend to have a few more projectiles flying at them then a normal airliner.
I agree 100%, but I recommend doing what a man I know did. He went to college and joined the Navy after, but he went in as an Officer because he went to Officer School. Currently he is flying 744s for NW from SFO & LAX to NRT. Think about that John.
COIAH756CA From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 506 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4221 times:
My son is also 15. His plan so far is UND, then sign on with a regional and wait for the time to get an interview..
Here is my story:
I went to Auburn from 1973-1977 and got a Aviation Management Degree. I went straight to US Navy pilot training. That lasted a while, but in one of the last checks, I failed the eye sight test. Literally, heartbreak.. I went back to my home state of Colorado and pursue a career in commercial aviation. I ended up flying for South Pacific Island Airways in Samoa a few months later. After 7 months, I left SPIA and went back to the states. I flew mail in Wyoming for a year in an Aero Commander. After that, I pursued another airline job. I went to Buffalo to fly for Best Airlines. I got my first jet rating on the DC-9 in 1982. I flew for Best for 9 months, but after an interview, Continental Airlines gave me a call. That was the turning point in my life. I moved back to my childhood home of Denver and flew right seat in the DC-9. The right seat job continued on the DC-10. In 1987 I became a captain on the 727. Great airplane by the way. I moved to PHX to explore a life in a warmer environment. The PHX-DEN commute was very easy. In 1990 I moved onto the MD-80. I got a kid in '91. My first and only. In 1995 things changed and CO pulled out of DEN. The 737 was calling my name at IAH. I flew the 733 and 735 until 1997. I have been on the 757 since 1997 and the 757/767 since 2001. Check airmen on 757 since 2005. I am away from home 4 days a week on average.
There is just a taste of the life. This job is crazy and you work hard. If you really want to do it, I would recommend a university and then get on with a regional for about 5 years. Then get that interview with the mainline.
If you want to do the Air Force thing, I would recommend a university with a a solid USAF ROTC program. Get a degree at all costs. Just remember that the USAF is 10 years keep these days.
Just my two cents. Good luck with whatever you do..
Long live Denver-STAPLETON. RIP the old and best KDEN