Joemac547 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4864 times:
Starting next spring, UA is double daily with both a 777 and 747-400 so if you want to go UA, you get to choose the aircraft type.
The best place for photos is a bayside park. You are parallel to runways 28R/L (about 1500 feet away across the water). With normal winds, you will be able to get a great view of all landings and most all the Asia and European take offs.
Search the photo data base for SFO. Most of the landing shots are from this vantage.
764 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 651 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4853 times:
UA 777s occasionally get used on this route in the winter, but only rarely. In the summer count on 744s with both LH and UA.
As to the choice of airlines, I have three words for you: United, United, United. They are not what they used to be, but Lufthansa is so much worse, it doesn't even compare. Plus, UA has channel 9 and so you will be able to listen to live air traffic control during the flight. No in-seat video on either plane though - sorry!
May I suggest that you try to connect in ORD or IAD on UA? That would give you the choice of 744, 777 or 767 for the transatlantic. 767 and 777 have in-seat video in Economy as well and they also have slightly wider seats (by about 3/4 inches or almost 2 cm). Keep in mind though, that airlines will sometimes change the aircraft type on short notice.
Also, if you look for good prices, you may consider US. Still Star Alliance and a great inflight entertainment system (you can pause, rewind and forward any movie whenever you like). No channel nine though and also only the IMHO boring and certainly tighter 330. You'd connect through PHL or CLT.
Edit: OK, so far it looks like they might use a 777 on one flight FRA-SFO. I missed that one. It is a very late fight though, so you may prefer flying earlier in the day.
Paneuropean From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 889 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4846 times:
United is a nice airline. I always enjoyed the transatlantic flights and nice crew on the AMS-IAD/ORD and ORD-FRA flights. I have flown 767 and 777 flights. I have never flown Lufthansa transatlantic, but their cabins look very neat and fresh. If you choose UA try to fly Economy+. Sometimes you'll get it free. Or pay €60,- Depends on the one at the counter.
I would try to fly both LH and UA. Their both member of the star alliance. They codeshare. Therefore I guess it's possible on one ticket. Good luck !!
SSTsomeday From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 1283 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4831 times:
I flew a T7 (United) from San Fran to Paris and back about 4 years ago.
If they still do that route with the T7, and you can't wait until UA adds their T7 next year from Frankfurt, would you consider doing a Frankfurt-Paris-San Fran routing (LH and UA - all Star Alliance) because THEN you can experience the T7 IFE. The connecting will make your trip longer, but hey, you're an enthusiast and you'd see CDG! Neither United or Lufthansa have IFE on there 747s in coach (as far as I know) United definately not. Since LH's newer airbuses do not, I am assuming their 747s do not.
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 33113 posts, RR: 85
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4679 times:
I prefer UA as the First Suite is both more private and offers more space to lay things out on then the LH First Seat.
That being said, the LH First Class Terminal at FRA is incredible. Totally blows the UA International First Class Lounge out of the water. If I had not yet experienced it, I'd take LH just for the ability to try the lounge.
I am fortunate to always receive top-notch service in UA F, however the consensus is that while LH's FA's are less friendly, they are more professional and consistent then UA's.
I prefer UA First in the 777 rather then the 747 as it feels far less crowded, but LH puts their First upstairs on the 747 so it's pretty spacious.
Stealth777 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 390 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4555 times:
well If you have the time and the dates work out for you. Fly the 777 with UA on one leg and fly LH on the other. They code-share on both flights so you get your miles and it can be done on one ticket.
L1011Lover From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 1004 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4541 times:
I tell you something, skip both UA and LH and take a real quality airline to the US!
Take DL´s 777 (flight number 15) from FRA to ATL and connect there to fly to SFO!
Just my opinion.
When it comes to travel to the US Delta would always be my first choice ahead of any other airline no matter American or European!
However if your decision is just to be made between LH and UA then I´d suggest you take the latter! UA service is far better than LH´s! LH´s international economy class is a relict of the stone age... might be acceptable from FRA to BOS or JFK (still there are better choices on both routes) but for sure is ridiculous on such a long trip!
TurkishWings From Turkey, joined May 2006, 1456 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4443 times:
If the price is similar, I wouldn't think twice and choose the UA 777 flight. IMO, LH is the worst European airline. I flew UA 744 and 742 between FRA and LAX, CPT, MIA and all were very uncomfortable flights. The price was always and always the main factor why I chose LH.
Having PTV on such a long flight would be very nice... I think UA have them right?