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TWA Fleet If Still TWA Still Around?  
User currently offlineLY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2679 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 8 months 1 week ago) and read 4277 times:

How would have been TWA fleet if TWA was still around?
What's your opinion?


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30914 posts, RR: 87
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week ago) and read 4273 times:
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I think TWA might have gone with the 767-400ER ala CO and DL to replace at least some of their L-1011s, with 777-200ERs for the longer missions and possibly 777-300ERs to replace the 747-200 fleet. I'm not familiar with TWA's route structure at the end, but if they didn't fly trans-Pacific, I imagine the 747-400 would not have been necessary.

The 717 would continue to replace the DC-9s on the low end, I imagine, and TWA may very well have followed DL, NW, and AA in flying the Mad Dogs until they rusted out of the sky and then replacing them with 737NGs.  Smile


User currently offlineN231YE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4243 times:

I know that it was talked about once before, that TWA had a plan where it would have ordered the Airbus A320 to replace their fleet of aging Boeing 727s. This change would have occurred shortly after the millennium (2003?), but history would prove otherwise.

User currently offlineTrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2350 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4239 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 1):
I think TWA might have gone with the 767-400ER ala CO and DL to replace at least some of their L-1011s, with 777-200ERs for the longer missions and possibly 777-300ERs to replace the 747-200 fleet. I'm not familiar with TWA's route structure at the end, but if they didn't fly trans-Pacific, I imagine the 747-400 would not have been necessary.

The last L-1011s and 747s were retired in 1997, four years before TWA went under. I don't think they would have planned on buying more widebodies. In their final years they bought some 763s and probably would have began the phase out of the older 762s. The Mad Dogs would have been around for quite some time as the MD-83s were the last ever built.

Today the fleet would probably be a mix of

717s
A319s
MD-82/83s
752s
762/763s



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User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4238 times:

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 3):
Today the fleet would probably be a mix of

717s
A319s
MD-82/83s
752s
762/763s

Close enough --

40 717s, 20 M83s, 15 738s, 20 752s, 10 753s, 10 763s

We will never know!  wink 



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User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4209 times:

I don't think it would be much different than it was at the time the Dark Side took over.

717's, MD-80's, 752's and 763's. Maybe - just maybe - start looking at 737NG to replace old MD-80's but that's about it.


User currently offlineLY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2679 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 6 days ago) and read 4193 times:

I also heard that they wanted to buy some 318s


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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3303 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4176 times:
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Quoting Stitch (Reply 1):
but if they didn't fly trans-Pacific, I imagine the 747-400 would not have been necessary.

I don't think that's necessarily true, as CO flies trans-pacific and has no 747's. The 777 fits the niche for most routes perfectly, especially with the huge number of airlines flying the routes.

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User currently offlineKstateinALB From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4169 times:

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 3):
Today the fleet would probably be a mix of 717s

I wonder if Boeing would have kept the 717 line open if TWA was still alive. It's an interesting question to ask.



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User currently offlineDesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4162 times:

I recall that TWA had route authority from St. Louis to Japan but had not begun operations. The only long range craft they had were the 767s By the end I believe all of the the 747s and L-1011s were out of service. I would have loved to see those 717s flying to St. Louis from Tucson.

User currently offlineTrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2350 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4160 times:

Quoting KstateinALB (Reply 8):
I wonder if Boeing would have kept the 717 line open if TWA was still alive. It's an interesting question to ask.

You never know, TWA did keep the MD-80 line open a little longer with the 1997 order. The 717 line would surely still be alive if AA decided to operate the 717s acquired from TWA and then place a large order to replace the F100s with them.

Quoting LY777 (Reply 6):
I also heard that they wanted to buy some 318s

You're right. I wasn't sure if it was A318 or 319s.



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User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4748 posts, RR: 45
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4119 times:

TWA's had orders in for their long-term short-haul fleet replacement program right before they were taken over by the AAirline that killed them:

A318/A319/A320.

There short-haul fleet would have looked like:

A318/A319/A320 and 757-200s.

Their long-haul is anyone's guess, but I would venture to say 767-300s and some 777-200ERs for longer flights/flights that require more payload.

Ultimately:

A318
A319
A320
757-200
767-300ER
777-200ER



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User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3606 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4081 times:

TWA was going to buy some used 747 200 before flight 800 to replace there 747 100. I think those 747 200 would still be in there fleet.

PS: they could have been ex NZ 747 200


User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4063 times:

Yeah, TW were going Airbus for short-haul before they flunked, along with the 717s. I actually thing they would have followed NW and gone mainly Airbus

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