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Your Opinion On These Country Aviation Threads?  
User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4679 posts, RR: 3
Posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3755 times:

Well, personally, I hate those [insert any country] aviation threads. I think some are way over the top, with over 20 volumes or more. If there's really something important to discuss, one can always make a separate thread.

Now you'll probably tell me: If you don't like them, don't read them.

I don't read them, but still I find them to be an annoyance.


What's your opinion ?

A342


Exceptions confirm the rule.
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User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6318 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3750 times:

I must be honest and I also find some of them annoying. Even though I have said that, I do take part a lot in the Irish Av thread. It was started because too many "Aer Lingus......" and "Ryanair have......" were clogging up Civ Av. and i'm sure the same was happening when the Indian Av threads were started.

So in a way it's better too discuss in a large thread rather than many smaller ones.

When something big isn't happening in a country aviation wise, there is no need to start a thread. As we all know Indian Aviation is booming and Irish Aviation is witnessing the takeover of our national airline by what can only be described as one of the most hated but vry profitable airlines in the world.

[Edited 2006-12-20 15:31:34]

User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3802 posts, RR: 29
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3741 times:

Quoting A342 (Thread starter):
I don't read them, but still I find them to be an annoyance.

Same here. My response, at most, is to shake my head and think to myself "there are obviously some -- no, many -- members who need to get a life" as evidenced by the fact that this nonsense continues into as many as 20 or more volumes with typically more than 100 replies each. Seems like any further country aviation threads should be immediately deleted by the moderators for two reasons: 1) Subject of topic is not specific and, for sure 2) Discussed to death.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3699 times:

Out of the 150 threads on the front page of civ-av, I just counted 6 country threads active.

Aviation itself is a community, and within any community you'll have subdivisions. If a subset of people want to gather somewhere and talk about common interests, I don't see a problem. It further builds and strengthens a community. I rarely read any of them, but they don't bother me.

I view this sort of like the bruhaha over the Peter Max threads, with the assumption that it was just for a bunch of 13-year-olds whacking off to every take off and landing. If you looked at it though, it was an interesting education on how an airline rotates its aircraft through their system.

The HNL Rarebirds thread doesn't bother me either, and sometimes it's interesting to see what's passed through the islands while everyone else is bickering over A vs. B.



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4917 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3679 times:

I didn't mind it when there was just the odd country thread but now there has been an explosion in the number of them, I'm starting to get a bit fed up with them

However if there were separate topics instead of these country threads there would be a lot of overlap - I now some the issues with Irish Aviation for example are interonnected. Therefore I think, reluctantly, these threads are needed

Incidently there was a similar situation on pprune a couple of years ago with a lot of airport/airline dedicated threads. However things have settled down now and people have got used to them. Perhaps the same will happen here?



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User currently offlineHimmat01 From India, joined Dec 2004, 1047 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3635 times:

The Indian a.netters have launched their own forum:

http://airlinersindia.s4.bizhat.com/



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3632 times:

Already being disscussed in Site Related ...

Country Aviation Threads Becoming Too Much (by 777way Dec 29 2006 in Site Related)

Personally, I don't see what the big deal is. It's the threads such as this one that irritate me.

A.net has how many members from how many different countries and have how many different interests?

If members want to discuss aviation in various countries that's what this site is for. And if they reach up to Vol.20, then that should be able to tell you something, right?

Best piece of advice is your own ....

Quoting A342 (Thread starter):
Now you'll probably tell me: If you don't like them, don't read them.

I don't read them, but still I find them to be an annoyance.

If you don't like them, don't read them. If you still find them an annoyance go find something else to do with your time.  Yeah sure



A Grumpy German Is A Sauerkraut
User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4679 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3615 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 6):
Already being disscussed in Site Related ...

Country Aviation Threads Becoming Too Much (by 777way Dec 29 2006 in Site Related)

Uh, my thread started some 9 days earlier, but what does it matter...  Yeah sure

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 6):
If you still find them an annoyance go find something else to do with your time.

My annoyance is not only because there are so many of them, but because of stupid titles, such as: "Hohohoho, it's xxx thread number xx !"

Childish, if you ask me. Maybe a new forum should be opened for them.

Thankfully, the situation has relaxed a bit recently.



Exceptions confirm the rule.
User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3606 times:

Quoting A342 (Reply 7):
Uh, my thread started some 9 days earlier, but what does it matter...

Your point? Somebody replied to your thread yesterday.

Quoting A342 (Reply 7):
My annoyance is not only because there are so many of them, but because of stupid titles, such as: "Hohohoho, it's xxx thread number xx !"

Now it's the titles that annoy you as well? Again, best piece of advice was your own ....

Quoting A342 (Thread starter):
Now you'll probably tell me: If you don't like them, don't read them.

.... if you find a title that annoys you, simply scroll down past it and find one that doesn't annoy you.

Quoting A342 (Reply 7):
Childish, if you ask me. Maybe a new forum should be opened for them.

I guess we'll have to open up a new forum to discuss only Boeing, another one for Airbus, another one for Flight Simulator, another one for Nikon, another one for Canon, etc.

In all honesty, I can't see how a handful of threads can "annoy" someone so much. That's childish (as you stated) if you ask me.



A Grumpy German Is A Sauerkraut
User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2757 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3592 times:

Quoting A342 (Thread starter):
I don't read them, but still I find them to be an annoyance.

I frequent the Irish Aviation Thread, and why the f**k shouldn't I if that interests me? You suggest some of the members participating in these threads should "get a life", may I suggest you apply the same to yourself if you let such little things in life annoy you. Chill out and calm down!

Quoting Tango-Bravo (Reply 2):
Seems like any further country aviation threads should be immediately deleted by the moderators for two reasons: 1) Subject of topic is not specific and, for sure 2) Discussed to death.

What a load of rubbish! If it says "Italian", or "Indian" or "French" or "Irish" Aviation thread I think the topic is quite specific. And discussed to death, how do you know that?

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 3):

Very very well said AeroWesty.

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 6):
Personally, I don't see what the big deal is. It's the threads such as this one that irritate me.

I totally agree with you ACDC8

Quoting A342 (Reply 7):
My annoyance is not only because there are so many of them, but because of stupid titles, such as: "Hohohoho, it's xxx thread number xx !"

Childish, if you ask me.

Oh grow up. Here you're clearly referring to the Irish aviation thread. Well it's just simply a bit of humour and imagination? Why does that annoy you so much?

"Childish". Well nobody asked your opinion, but hey this is a PUBLIC forum so you're entitled to your opinion just as groups are entitled to have a single thread discussing topics that involve their centres of interest!

Happy 2007 A342. I wish you a great year, I sincerely hope our "country" threads stop annoying you and I hope that 2007 will see you take unimportant things such as this lighter.



Long live Aer Lingus!
User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4679 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3587 times:

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 9):
You suggest some of the members participating in these threads should "get a life"

No, I don't. Please don't put words in my mouth. If these things interest you, you may discuss it all you want.

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 9):
Oh grow up. Here you're clearly referring to the Irish aviation thread. Well it's just simply a bit of humour and imagination? Why does that annoy you so much?

First: I don't have this particular problem with other country aviation threads, guess what, the people making them restrict themselves to the minimum needed.

Second: I think everyone on this site knew that it was Christmas time, new year etc. If you don't think so, you can tell everybody in non-AV.



Exceptions confirm the rule.
User currently offlineAerArann From Ireland, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3576 times:

Quoting A342 (Thread starter):
Well, personally, I hate those [insert any country] aviation threads.



Quoting A342 (Thread starter):
I don't read them, but still I find them to be an annoyance.

If you dont read them, its strange then that you visited, and commented on the "Japan Aviation (moikkai Yarimasho!)" Thread.

These aviation country threads, are similar to the likes of the "MUC news" threads you participate in.

Threads are always going to exist on the "broad " aviation spectrum, and should be respected.

These individual country threads are an excellent way for people with an interest in their countries aviation affairs, and the topics cannot be discussed in any other forum.


User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2757 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3566 times:

Quoting A342 (Reply 10):
Quoting Toulouse (Reply 9):
You suggest some of the members participating in these threads should "get a life"

No, I don't. Please don't put words in my mouth.

A342, please accept my sincerest apologies. I made a mistake as it was actually said by Tango-Bravo, I am genuienly sorry!

Quoting A342 (Reply 10):
First: I don't have this particular problem with other country aviation threads, guess what, the people making them restrict themselves to the minimum needed.



Quoting A342 (Reply 10):
Second: I think everyone on this site knew that it was Christmas time, new year etc. If you don't think so, you can tell everybody in non-AV.

Ridiculous comment, I'm afraid.

Glad to see that on the similar thread in "site-related" people in their majority, including many moderators, are supporting these "country" threads.
Anywayn let's not discuss this anymore, as you seem to be stongly cemented to your opinion, which you have a right to, but please refrain from insulting, belittling and spoiling other people's threads!



Long live Aer Lingus!
User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4679 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3549 times:

Quoting AerArann (Reply 11):
If you dont read them, its strange then that you visited, and commented on the "Japan Aviation (moikkai Yarimasho!)" Thread.

That was the only exception, as I had just one or two small questions for which I didn't want to start a separate thread. And, until now, the Japan thread, has only one volume. That's Ok in my view.

Quoting AerArann (Reply 11):
These aviation country threads, are similar to the likes of the "MUC news" threads you participate in.

You couldn't be farther from the truth. In the "MUC news" threads, WHICH ONLY GET STARTED IF THERE IS NOTEWORTHY NEWS, we (or should I say I  Wink) just announce schedule news for a specific airport, and if there is nothing more to add or to be asked, we stop discussing.


But I agree with Toulouse, we better stop discussing this now.

If you don't like my thread, simply don't read and participate.  Wink



Exceptions confirm the rule.
User currently offlineJamesJimlb From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1023 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3537 times:

have you ever seen a #1 of theese threads. maybe if i was able to get into them they wouldn't seem very anoying.


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