MCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8719 posts, RR: 12 Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4165 times:
Hello, I'm turning 20 in late March and would like to be a flight attendant for a US based airline. I know most of the majors hire at 20 but I would like to know what the average pay is, how long of trips, and your opinions on who has the best retirement out there. I would like to pick a good airline that has a good reputation.
plan on making somewhere in the 12-20k range your first year... depending on regional or mainline... the added bonus you can look forward to is your per diem, which is calculated on the hours that your away from home... depending on the trip type, this can be tax free, hopefully some of the fellow a.neters can fill you in on more of the rules around that...
Can be any length.. your going to start out in reserves or "on call", basicly depending on the line you bid, based on your senority, you have to be either within a certain radius of the airport, or actualy sitting at the airport... as more senior f/a's call in sick, misconnect or are injured you'll be placed on flights.. so they type of trips you get can be erratic... could be a quick turn, or the remainder of a 3 day trip... all depends... the nice thing is you can get a variety... some carriers, will specify different Intl reserves and domestic reserves... some combine the two... all depends on the carrier.... again depending on the carrier you should be out of reserves with in 4-5 years.... then you can bid on the specific trips you want and days you want to fly... the only real control you get while on reserves is the days off you want... and that's all bid by senority... again, it everything depends on the carrier... a regional like MQ might allow for quicker advancement to a line because of higher turn over...
Atrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5717 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4102 times:
Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 5): Thanks. I'm really doing my research but would like to know the odds of being based out of MCO for WN or FL.
For Southwest, MCO being a base already ur chance are there to be MCO based immediatly but most likely not, and if I recall, after being based for One month at wherever WN assigns you, you can choose to transfer BACK to MCO if you are not already assigned an MCO base, and ONLY if the positions are open to transfer back to MCO.
Good things come to those who wait, better things come to those who go AFTER it!
Mjlhou From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 154 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4102 times:
Both FL and WN are good companies at this point, all though WN will offer you a better starting pay rate. WN is the only airline I have FA experience with and would be my obvious choice. Trips at WN are anwhere from turns(1 day & back home the same night) - 4 day trips. You'd have a given schedule for your first month but then be required to sit reserve or be "on call" as HPAEAA had stated above for the next 5 months in a row. Once off of probation at the end of ur first 6 months of employment, you'll sit reserve every 1-3 months depending on your assigned crew domicile. I hope all works out well.
Don't worry about things you can't change or control
atleast at the carrier's I've worked for... it's been unpaid, and for wn I think it's in Dallas... usualy if your going to be based out of town they cover the travel and per diem...just no hourly wage since the "offer" of employment is only made on completetion of training...
747hogg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4016 times:
Want to see what a real world class F/A is like? Fly the Manila based NWA crew of Filipino ladies, or just about any Asian crew.. truly the finest in all respects. However if these crews had to haul the cheep short hop masses who expect so much and want it for a few cents here in the states, they no doubt would quickly be reduced to the exhausted frazzled and over worked crews we have here in the states. Best of luck... try for an A/L that has overseas routes and work for the right to bid these trips, screw this 8 flights in 8 hours business... will total you out.
EWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5527 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3978 times:
We are hiring at CO. Real good chance of being EWR based (also best base for getting a line (schedule) quicker than either IAH or CLE.
You can always commute to MCO (although you would be in line with a lot of other commuters to MCO and Florida alike.
Domestically there are one day turns, and trips up to five days (the fifth day being you get in just past midnight on the fifth day and these trips are few and far between). Internationally the trips are usually three days, but we have 4-5 day (and more) trips depending on the destination and season of flight.
Starting pay at CO is $19.50 and the per diem domestically is $1.85 and internationally is $2.50.
Reserves are guaranteed 83 hours whether or not you fly it. If you fly more than 83, you get paid the greater.
Whomever you work for, ENJOY!!!! It is a great job, nay, rather lifestyle. Your co-workers become your extended family and the flexibility of your schedule is unlike any other job out there.
If you need any questions answered or whatever, just give a shout.
Flyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1909 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3930 times:
I used to be a gate agent, and as early as 18 decided that I would become a flight attendant...I was in school, lived at home, and just wanted to try it out. So I got a job with Mesa...and believe me it sucks.At this airline productivity for the least amount payable to the employee is the rule. You get worked hard... Its often impossible to get overtime pay because most of the lines are in excess of 94hrs/ month, and with our 100hr cap, theres nto a lot of leway to pick up open time with five day trips. IN addition, at mesa you end up frequently sitting reserve even as a line holder. Theres consistent contract violation, but It doesn't seem to matter to the company. And if you want to take it to a union rep to try and get your money that you worked for, or you were shorted rest, whatever it may be,. forget it, they will never get back to you. Im just glad however that Im on my final six days as a F/A here. One thing that is nice is the people, when you work at a place like this the friendships build really strong because you can always feel eachother's pain. Deffinitely think to the future and go somewhere that will treat you good. Good luck, I will say outside it all, even though I do only fly on CRJ900s and Dash8s...When we are in the sky, I love the job, the passengers are so interesting, and theres often other crew non reving or deadheading and your constantly making new friends and having some great laughs with some really cool people. Not to mention most of the time Im not doing a whole lot, and getting paid almost 20/hr for it. (and at most companies it would be a lot more) GOOD LUCK!
Tsaord From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3927 times:
The more I work at ORD the more I wonder about working for an Airline. But with so much I want to do still while I'm young I don't think I will do it. In 5-10 years who knows. I am starting to get over my fear of flying a lot.
I just wish the Airline industry was worthwhile as far as pay goes, or maybe I just don't understand the pay scale lol.
I hope you find an Airline you love, not like but love! Based on where I live if I went for an FA job it would be with UA or WN, with AA being the top runner!
Acjflyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 427 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3760 times:
If hired on at EWR for CO how long would it take to bid international flights as a FA. I've spent a couple of years in Spain and am fluent in Spanish both written and spoken. Does that help at all when it comes to getting international flights? If not, how long does it usually take?
EWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5527 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3737 times:
Quoting Acjflyer (Reply 15): If hired on at EWR for CO how long would it take to bid international flights as a FA. I've spent a couple of years in Spain and am fluent in Spanish both written and spoken. Does that help at all when it comes to getting international flights? If not, how long does it usually take?
Out of training you would be probably be based in EWR, either domestic or international. If you are domestic (EWR) based, you put your transfer in, keep it on file till you get it. We always have transfers to/from EWR/NTA (Newark International flying base internal CO abbreviation). You could be flying internationally from day one.
Speaking Spanish (or any other language for that matter) helps. Get qualified and as a 'speaker' you could transfer to our language base (NLS) and be bidding Spanish trips (MEX, MAD, SJU, BCN).
By all means apply. The sooner you apply, the sooner you accrue seniority for trips. We are always hiring now (we expect hiring 700 flight attendants this year alone).
If you have any more questions, holler. Always glad to help out. Instant message me as well.