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NYC -> Big Three In Canada, Cheaply?  
User currently offlineSwiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3185 times:

Hi,

I have a spare day during my 10 day trip to NYC, when I would like to make a daytrip to Canada, as I've never been.

I don't drive, so I can't fly to Buffalo and do it that way, so I need to fly to Toronto, Montreal, or Quebec. It seems that whatever airline/city combination I can find it around about the same price - £150GBP/300USD/340CAD.

I know these routes will be busy and competitive, but am hopeful I can find something.

I've looked at AC, UA, AA but I'm not familiar with the LCC's in North America, so don't know where to look.

For logistical reasons, it makes sense for me to get the earliest out, and the latest back in.

Any hints much apprecaited.

Thanks

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User currently offlineBakersdozen From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 336 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3106 times:

Can't help you too much with the airliners/flights, especially since you didn't say when you want to fly. A search on Travelocity.ca might be of use though. Check all of New Yorks surrounding airports as New Jersey tends to be a little cheaper.

A day trip? No overnight stay then... I'd recommend Toronto as it is close and probably the least like backhome... you could walk around downtown and do all the normal tourist things there. It'd be a long day, Toronto's airport is about 30 mins from downtown so you'd want to take a cab (looking at probably $30-40) if you can't drive and rent a car.

Not sure about Montreal. Canada's big three would be Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver (not Quebec City)... and for a day trip Vancouver is pretty much ruled out  Smile


User currently offlineACA77LFAN From Canada, joined Feb 2007, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3106 times:

I'm afraid that price is about par for the course for the trip you're thinking of. It is return airfare right? It's a shame you only have one day. I'd recommend flying from YUL, if that's where you choose to go, during the evening, because if weather permits, the view of the city upon approach is gorgeous. You've picked a heck of a time of year to visit though...

User currently offlineNycfly75 From Italy, joined Aug 2005, 750 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3106 times:

DL connection also flies to montreal via JFK

User currently offlineSwiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3047 times:

Quoting Bakersdozen (Reply 1):
Can't help you too much with the airliners/flights, especially since you didn't say when you want to fly

Oops.. March 23rd.
I'll check out that link, thanks!

Quoting Bakersdozen (Reply 1):
Canada's big three would be Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver (not Quebec City)

Sorry, MY big three!
How naive of me, I mean't the big three near New York and now I look totally thick and uneducated!!
Again, oops!

Quoting ACA77LFAN (Reply 2):
It is return airfare right?

Yup!!
I'm also thinking Boston might be cool. That's coming up at $140return inc tax on JetBlue and Delta [Comair].


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3019 times:

Quoting Swiftski (Thread starter):
I don't drive, so I can't fly to Buffalo and do it that way

There is a train station rather close to BUF that has daily service to Toronto. Also, you can get a bus downtown and a bus from there to Toronto.



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User currently offlineSilentbob From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1963 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3017 times:

Boston would be the best option to me, then again I hit the Black Rose every time I'm in the area. You can hit the stuff around Quincy Market and easily spend an entire day around there. Montreal and Ottawa are beautiful cities and Toronto has a lot to do but getting to/from the airport in Toronto is a pain. Since it's a day trip, avoiding customs should allow more time in the city.

User currently offlineSwiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2999 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 5):
There is a train station rather close to BUF that has daily service to Toronto. Also, you can get a bus downtown and a bus from there to Toronto.

Wasn't aware of this. What sort of time and cost is involved in this? Thanks for the heads up.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24080 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2964 times:

Quoting Swiftski (Reply 7):
Quoting N1120A (Reply 5):
There is a train station rather close to BUF that has daily service to Toronto. Also, you can get a bus downtown and a bus from there to Toronto.

Wasn't aware of this. What sort of time and cost is involved in this? Thanks for the heads up.

That wouldn't work for a day trip. There is only one train a day Buffalo-Toronto and it takes more than 4 hours and leaves in the afternoon to YYZ and in the morning from YYZ. It's the continuation of the single daily train between NYC and YYZ.

Personally, unless you could spend at least one night, I think a day trip NYC-YYZ/YUL wouldn't be worth the effort and expense. With the usual congested NYC traffic to/from any of the NYC airports, the need to allow plenty of time to check in and deal with possible long security lines, then clearing customs and getting downtown on arrival in YYZ/YUL, and repeating the process on the return trip (except you preclear US immigration/customs in Canada), at least 8 hours of your day would be spent travelling. Wouldn't leave much time for sightseeing.


User currently offlineSebring From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 1663 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2958 times:

The Buffalo-Toronto train is not an option. It takes almost four hours to do a journey you can do by car in two. Listen, my friend, if C$340, all taxes in, is too expensive, I think you had better forget about a day trip to Canada. Flying to the border and taking the bus or renting a car just eats into the savings and the travel time kills your day. Just enjoy NY. Consider a day trip instead to Philadelphia.

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2943 times:

Quoting Swiftski (Reply 7):
What sort of time and cost is involved in this? Thanks for the heads up.

The cost is negligable, about 25 quid converted, but it can be time intensive.

Quoting Swiftski (Reply 4):
I'm also thinking Boston might be cool. That's coming up at $140return inc tax on JetBlue and Delta [Comair].

For a day trip, Boston and Philadelphia are your best bets. I would also look at the cost of Amtrak, as that will save you a lot of time because you go city center to city center (though that isn't a big deal at the Boston end, as BOS is very close to downtown).



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User currently offlineSwiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2928 times:

Quoting Sebring (Reply 9):
Listen, my friend, if C$340, all taxes in, is too expensive, I think you had better forget about a day trip to Canada

It's not that it's too expensive, buddy, I just don't know many N. American carriers. If Carrier X does the same thing for half the price I'd obviously take it. I'm not saying I won't go for the price mentioned, I'm simply looking out for other options that I havent yet come across.


What's domestic travel in the US like, security wise? Is there separate queues than International, and do they tend to be more flowing?


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24080 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2892 times:

If you haven't been to Washington, that's an easy day trip by train from New York, about 3 hours each way, and frequent service, and with downtown to downtown service you avoid all the time getting to/from the airports at each end. Union Station in Washington is across the street from the US Capitol building and within walking distance or a short taxi ride from most other places of interest to visitors. For travel on March 23, Amtrak (the US train operator) currently has round trip New York-Washington fares as low as $134 ($67 each way). See

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24080 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2880 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 12):
If you haven't been to Washington, that's an easy day trip by train from New York, about 3 hours each way, and frequent service, and with downtown to downtown service you avoid all the time getting to/from the airports at each end. Union Station in Washington is across the street from the US Capitol building and within walking distance or a short taxi ride from most other places of interest to visitors. For travel on March 23, Amtrak (the US train operator) currently has round trip New York-Washington fares as low as $134 ($67 each way).

Just adding Amtrak link which was missing in my reply above:

www.amtrak.com


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