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Bulkhead Seat In Business Class, Good Or Bad?  
User currently offlinePaul From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 374 posts, RR: 3
Posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15721 times:

After flying a number of times with various airlines in C Class I have come to realise that adquiring a bulkhead seat is not always favourable. Naturally the bulkhead is a premium when flying in Economy, however,for airlines like UA on their 777's the plastic wall which divides the First and Business cabin at the front of the aircraft and similarly the first row in the main Business Cabin has slightly less legroom. However, some aircraft configs do reward some bulkhead seats in C- Class with extra legroom, 747 Emergency Exit rows are a suitable example, the cabin layouts of some aircraft actual cut a few inches off the standard legroom. Understandibly this done to maximise cabin and plane capacity.

Has anyone ever found that their C Class bulkhead seat has either rewarded them additional legroom or has actually cut off a few precious inches one expects in the published seat pitch?

I am flying on a Lufthansa 343 (2 class config) in C Class and have been pre asigned 1C however, I am wondering if the Bulkhead on LH is going to short fall the standard legroom of 60inches. Additionally there is a smaller Business cabin of just two rows, and I am contemplating requesting seats in that cabin. Can anyone who has been on this aircraft shed any light on the legroom of any LH Bulkhead seats in Business Class?

[Edited 2007-02-12 01:12:28]


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User currently offlineAerorobNZ From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7191 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15721 times:

The Bulkhead in business class is less than ideal. I prefer a few rows further back.

User currently offlineSwissy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 1734 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15718 times:

Quoting AerorobNZ (Reply 1):
The Bulkhead in business class is less than ideal. I prefer a few rows further back.

Agree, I never choose a seat near the bulkhead in C/F......

Cheers,


User currently offlinePlanegeek From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 15663 times:

I tend to prefer bulkhead seats because there is no possibilty of the pax in front of you reclining into "your space." So even if you lose a few inches in pitch, you still gain in overall personal space. I fly almost exclusively on UA and have personally never flown C on LH, so unfortunately can't offer specific advice there. However, the definitive answer for a particular airline/plane configuration should be www.seatguru.com.

But where ever you sit in C it's a far cry better than coach!

Happy travels.


User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 15644 times:

Quoting Planegeek (Reply 3):
However, the definitive answer for a particular airline/plane configuration should be www.seatguru.com.

Copy that.

Like the others stated before, also I try to stay away from bulkhead seats (and from the galley and the toilets) ...
Valid for longhaul: As I pay $$$$ for the seat, I try to max out the comfort I get, thus trying to reserve specific seats upfront.

In Y I also try to avoid the Exit rows on those a/c where the tray table is in the armrest thus making the seat even less wide (okay, might be my particular problem  Wink )
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User currently offlineCXtra From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 263 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 15633 times:

normally i try to avoid the bulkheads in premium cabin because as you've said, the legroom isn't too good. however on cx, if you look to the far right of this photo, the bulkhead seats are fitted with the back of a mock seat and screen

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User currently offlineContinental123 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 15631 times:

I can't stand bulkheads that extend the TV almost out of visibility.  yell 

User currently offlinePaul From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 374 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 15628 times:

Open this link and check out the legroom at this LH Bulkhead!

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1033335/M/

[Edited 2007-02-21 09:52:57]


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User currently offlineHoppe777 From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 15609 times:

Quoting Paul (Reply 7):
Open this link and check out the legroom at this LH Bulkhead!

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1...35/M/



Well im inclined or should i say reclined to agree with Paul.

I recently flew with Swiss from ZCH-LAX on their new A340-300's and was assigned a bulkhead seat right before first class and i thought there was as much room if not a little more then those seats behind me. I rarely travel business so its a treat for me to get so much room as opposed to being cramped in Economy.

Ahh looking at those seats makes me want to take to the skys..........

Hoppe777



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User currently offlineHoppe777 From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 15608 times:

what i meant to add in my previous post is that LH and Swiss are of a similar layout to each other.

Hoppe777



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User currently offlineHighpeaklad From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 15597 times:

I was in the bulkhead row on a 3 class 343 and there was a cut out in the bulkhead for your feet to fit in so legroom was fine.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1033335/M/

In this photo, if you compare the alignment of the windows you can see that legroom is the same ( as the legs slide under the seat in front). There is also a larger centre console as these seats have retractable IFE screens.

I'm sure you'll have a good trip.
PS the slightly off flat sleep position (press the flat seat button, then keep it pressed down once the seat is flat) is much more comfortable for sleeping than fully flat.

Chris



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User currently offlinePaul From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 374 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 15591 times:

Thanks for the tip Chris. The legroom as you said does look the same as the seat behind, I am 6ft 3 so need as much legroom as I can get. I assume you have flown on LH's new product. What did you think of it, service and food esp? How were the lounges at FRA, can u recommend me one, there are about 4 and I hear some of them are pretty crap..........?

Cheers mate

Paul



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User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3708 posts, RR: 28
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 15590 times:

Quoting Paul (Thread starter):
Has anyone ever found that their C Class bulkhead seat has either rewarded them additional legroom or has actually cut off a few precious inches one expects in the published seat pitch?

I've found it can be a good or bad thing.

Good: BA Club World bulkhead seats mean you don't have to climb over the neighbour to get out and you also get a few inches extra to stretch into when asleep...

Bad: On one United flight I had too much legroom (longhaul 763). If I had anything in the seat pocket I had to get up and retrieve it. The seats beside the window had the best compromise. Then since UA don't close the curtains anymore we got a 'Here's what you could have won' experience seeing the First Class service performed right in front of us.... biggrin 

AA 767-200s in First Class have a large difference in legroom depending on whether you go for row 2 or 3 as you can see from the photo below. Row 3 has acres of space (I think 60" pitch) which was very enjoyable for my dayflight whereas the guys in row 2 appeared to be almost pinned up against the bulkhead in comparison! Obviously 2D offers the best amount of space, but see my United point  Wink


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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 15580 times:

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 12):
On one United flight I had too much legroom (longhaul 763). If I had anything in the seat pocket I had to get up and retrieve it.

Go Go Gadget Arms !  Big grin

Serious: I had the same "problem" on DL 's B/E on B763ER and B772 and I already have looong arms ...

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 12):
The seats beside the window had the best compromise.

B747 upper deck with those boxes below the windows. Cu-ft of storage space and all accessible during all stages of the flight.
-HT



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User currently offlineHighpeaklad From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 15554 times:

Quoting Paul (Reply 11):
Thanks for the tip Chris. The legroom as you said does look the same as the seat behind, I am 6ft 3 so need as much legroom as I can get. I assume you have flown on LH's new product. What did you think of it, service and food esp? How were the lounges at FRA, can u recommend me one, there are about 4 and I hear some of them are pretty crap..........?

The seat was very comfortable with lots of different ways to move the various parts of it. There is a comprehensive guide in the seat pocket which is well worth reading as it shows you all the cubby holes and seat features. The avod system was good but didn't seem to have much decent stuff on it (just my taste though) and has some games. Food wasn't bad or brilliant, a nice touch was they showed you the starters so you could choose which one you liked the look of.
Service was efficient and had no complaints.
I transferred through MUC so can't comment on the FRA lounges , the MUC one best described as grey!, just a large room with lots of grey leather seats and no view.

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