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Lion Air KUL-CGK?  
User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 760 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2809 times:

I wonder why JT publishes a schedule on that route but on their wbsite all flights are fully booked. I can hardly believe they´re really "full".
Next to this i would like to know how easy it is to get a one-way ticket at reasonable price on that route (talking about all airlines between both cities (all websites except for Air Asia´s are not helpful/useless) From outside Asia just MH and GA are accessible through res systems and both airlines rip off customers regardless if booking via website or global res system!

I would like to give JT a try if they really operate this route and offer reasonable prices. Sure they´re probably more expensive than Air Asia but cheaper than MH/GA. Next to offering a flight in MD-80 or even (if i´m lucky) in B737-900 ...

So, is there anybody having more insight into this local market to give me advice ??? On which JT-routes can i expect the B 737-900 ?

I need a flight KUL / SIN - CGK around 10-12th may as i have a flight on Viva Macau CGK-MFM on late evening of may 14th (i paid only 51,-US$ incl. tax ...) and i´d like to spend 2-3 days in Indonesia to get a first time impression before leaving.


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User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1669 posts, RR: 31
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2699 times:

MHG,

KLM has really good deals on the KUL-CGK v.v. flights; did you check their website ?
Moreover you'll be flying widebody 747-400 comfort  Smile



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User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 760 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2614 times:

Well, KLM really doesn´t offer any "reasonable" fare ! 250,-EUR or more is nothing but keeping "intermediate-sector" customers away from KL ! (including me)

The cheapest full-service carrier seems to be EK but i´ll keep it just as back-up since i like to try out airlines i´ve never flown with before. And EK is the only airline operating between SIN-KUL that´s already on my experience list ...

If i can´t get a good deal on full service carriers i´ll probably book Valuair.
Unfortunately most - but not all - Airlines (except the LCC´s) don´t offer any acceptable prices on their websites even for these intermediate sections.

So, i need someone who knows how to get access on info reagrding whether LION AIR actually flies on that route or not.

Next to this i´d like to know if i can get a low fare at any local office/agency in KUL even with short notice (2-3 days before flight) - no specific airline required in that case -



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User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2106 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2613 times:

Why don't you try calling their Customer Service Center and ask whether you can book the ticket and collect it at KUL or SIN. Or maybe asking them on where you can purchase the ticket in KUL or SIN. Lion serves both KUL and SIN.

"Booking your flight with Lion Air has never been easier. Simply call our convenient 24 Hour Call Center on Jl. Gajah Mada No. 7 in Central Jakarta for reservations and ticket purchasing. Just dial (for overseas) +6221-6387 1111 or +6221-6379 8000 and our friendly, bilingual staff will be pleased to assist."

Hope this help.


User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 760 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2610 times:

Thanks 9MMAR !!!

Well, i´ll call them but i´m still open for other REASONABLE alternatives since i always like to go off the beaten track!
I´m just not willing to pay like 1000,-MYR / 450,-SG$ for a one-way to KUL/SIN-CGK !

It doesn´t matter if i depart from KUL or SIN because i will most likely travel down from Bangkok by train (not the luxurious one but regular long distance trains that give me the choice to hop-off / hop-on where / whenever i want.

I am the kind of traveller who follows the rule : "the journey is my destination" so i´m quite flexible... (also because i´m travelling alone)

Regards, Juergen



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User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2106 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2603 times:

Hi Juergen,

Quoting MHG (Reply 4):
I´m just not willing to pay like 1000,-MYR / 450,-SG$ for a one-way to KUL/SIN-CGK !

You won't. Even with MH, the ticket only cost around MYR 800 for full one way Y class fare. So with Lion Air, it should be less than half the price.

Quoting MHG (Reply 4):
not the luxurious one

Yes, the green posh luxurious Eastern & Oriental Express!  drool 


User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6590 posts, RR: 75
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2599 times:

You can always take the ferry from SIN to BTH, and pick up the flight from BTH, and if you wanna fly on the MD82, make sure you get booked on a Wings Air flight... (JT/IW flight numbers with 4 digits).

For 10th May, currently they're about 60US$ (excluding airport tax). The lower subclasses aren't opened yet, Say for 10th March, it's 30 bucks... the use it or loose it fare, the "safer" fare with regards to alterations and cancellation will be about 40bucks.

(Ferry about 10 bucks US I think, the taxi ride from the ferry terminal to the airport is about 5 bucks)

Mandala499



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User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 760 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2594 times:

Well, i´ve never been in Malaysia/Indonesia before...
So, i´ll be slowly discovering the local situation there!
The MD was not exactly on my agenda but the 737-900. I really have no clue on which routes JT operates the -900 !

Next to this i am really interested to know if i´ll have to pay the usual "full-fare penalty" for booking upon short notice if i go to the resp. airline office in downton KUL just a day before departure . Of course some flights might be pretty full already then but a single seat should be availlable on a route with lots of different airlines...

One problem is e.g. that Lion Air is not listed in the GDS´s so travel agents here in Germany are not able to give me even a rough idea about JT´s actual fares. They have a pricelist on their website but it´s useless as long their online booking engine shows all flights as fully booked (which i can hardly believe they are)
All other souces (for alternative airlines) like airline websites / online travel agencies show only the major carriers like MH / GA / EK / LH / KL / etc. and usually just the full Y-fares. I can´t believe that there are no additional fares availlable on MH or GA. But maybe they sell those only locally ... I would also like to try MH if there´s an acceptable offer....
Just prefer to exclude the european airlines since that would be a bit boring to me  Wink



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User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6590 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2590 times:

The 739ERs initial routes are not that well known, but it would appear that it would go CGK-JOG as one of the first routes, but no guarantees as per usual JT Press Releases.

I've just checked with JT, the fares for KULCGK for 10MAY is still in available, full Y, which is 450MYR, the usual cheaper of X at 210MYR is still not released (they get released to the market nearer the day of travel due to ticket validity period limits)... If I were you, as soon as you arrive in KUL, go to JT and book...

Mandala499



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User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 760 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2564 times:

Thanks, that gives me at least a rough idea on what to expect.

I already tried to call their hotline several times already like 9M-MAR suggested but this always fails as either nobody pickes up the phone or the connection is so bad that i can hardly hear the voice of the agent ( like he/she´s a million lightyears away - impossible to make a conversation ! )

Interestingly indonesian domestic flights may be booked via their website with seats availlable and fares quoted.
But neither on the KUL-CGK nor on the SIN-CGK route any seat availlability or fare quotation is shown in may...

Btw. It´ll be nice if i could meet some a.netters in KUL and have some aviationtalk...



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User currently offlineGFFgold From Indonesia, joined Feb 2007, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2563 times:

The 'fully booked' bit on the website might even be cheap seats not being released yet - although except for the plane type I can't imagine why anyone would want to fly Lion or Wings. Lousy food, poor punctuality, safety record allegedly improved but I'll take some convincing...

For KLM KUL-CGK I know it sounds crazy but try booking a return on the website - often cheaper than a single. I'm using KLM CGK-KUL return in business class over the Easter weekend for 270USD. That's a good deal for flying upstairs in a 744.

Also worth a try is Emirates who often have spare capacity on the KUL-CGK leg.

Air Asia is cheap but it means getting over to the LCC terminal which is spartan to say the least, then a scrum for seats.

Sometimes it is possible to get a cheaper seat on MH by booking via Garuda codeshare, although I've never tried it on that leg.

If you have time to spare in Indonesia why not enter via another airport then make your way to CGK on domestic routes? The latter can often be booked cheaper in country. Remember that at current exchange rates your Euros will go a long way here. Plenty of KUL and SIN flights to Medan, Padang and the like.


User currently offlineGFFgold From Indonesia, joined Feb 2007, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2562 times:

Oh, I forgot one more 'off the beaten track' option. Just checked tigerairways.com and a single from SIN to Padang for 12th May is SGD64- including taxes. Wings operates MD82 service PDG-CGK (as Mandala says, IWplus 4 digit flight code)- or for a real white-knuckle ride you could go Adam Air!

User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6590 posts, RR: 75
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2554 times:

Even if you want to forget about safety and planecrashes or going missing or going astray... I still wouldn't even try Adam Air... why? The last thing you want is to be stuck in a (foreign... for MHG) country you've never been to, and then within 18hrs of departing, the airline has decided to change your flight, cancel it, or reassign you to another flight on a different date... or even turning up at the airport with only a "your flight's cancelled, here's your refund now off you go Buzz off before I get security" slapping you in the face!

If not on a weekend, from KUL, grab a flight to MES, there's a large choice of flights from there.
If from SIN, best to grab the ferry to BTH and do the same.

Mandala499



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User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 760 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2546 times:

It appears i´ll have a substantial amount of choices.

I was mostly afraid about being forced to pay $$$$$$$ if i book just a few days before departure (this is the way it goes usually the closer one gets towards departure date)...
So, i´m quite a bit optimistic now!

I never considered ADAM AIR at all ! ! ! Still love my life on earth - will be in heaven early enough...

Actually i also have Berjaya Air in the back of my mind since i´m a great Dash-7 fan ! But this is certainly no budget flying - hence the Dash-7´s operating costs.
As well as FAX F 50 and DHC-6 ( the latter is also one of my favourites)

Emirates is on my back-up list in case other airlines get too expensive because EK is easy to book on their website and has a cheap fare between KUL-CGK availlable almost daily !



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