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Has Anyone Ever Flown Monarch In The UK?  
User currently offlineDisruptivehair From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 598 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5682 times:

I flew on one of their 757s the other day and had to sit sideways because there was no legroom. I should add that I'm 5'5" and do not have long legs.

Anyone know the measurements for their seat pitch? It seemed to me that there was less than 12 inches between my face and the back of the seat in front of me.

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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11708 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5680 times:

I believe Monarch have a pitch of between 28 and 29 inches, which isn't that much at all, although on their long haul operations it ranges between 30 and 31 inches. My family and I used to fly them a lot, until one flight when their negligence lead to a suitcase falling on a family member's head, nearly paralyzing them. Kind of went off them after that!


Dan Smile



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User currently offlineDisruptivehair From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 5669 times:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 1):
I believe Monarch have a pitch of between 28 and 29 inches, which isn't that much at all, although on their long haul operations it ranges between 30 and 31 inches. My family and I used to fly them a lot, until one flight when their negligence lead to a suitcase falling on a family member's head, nearly paralyzing them. Kind of went off them after that!


Dan

Yikes, I can sort of see why you'd go off them after that.

I couldn't stand sitting in that seat for even 20 minutes; I couldn't make it all the way to Spain or something in a seat like that. Bleh! Hate low-cost carriers!


User currently offlineEmel From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 5650 times:

Hi

I regularly fly Monarch between Spain, where I live, and the UK.

The seat pitch is no better nor worse than in most economy flights on major flag carriers, and more importantly, the majority of their flights run to time, possibly because they have a realistic turn round time.

If you attain frequent flyer status, you have access to extra legroom seating with a pitch of 34 inches.

Overall a pleasant way to travel from point A to B.

Rgds


User currently offlineAmberair732 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 5649 times:

Quoting Disruptivehair (Thread starter):
I flew on one of their 757s the other day and had to sit sideways because there was no legroom.

Monarch were just trying to help you with your fear of flying. The pain of cramp in your legs from sitting in awkward positions sure takes your mind off flying  Wink


User currently offlineDisruptivehair From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5637 times:

Quoting Amberair732 (Reply 4):
Monarch were just trying to help you with your fear of flying. The pain of cramp in your legs from sitting in awkward positions sure takes your mind off flying

Heh, I wish. I felt worse than I normally did because I was so confined.


User currently offlineDisruptivehair From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5636 times:

Quoting Emel (Reply 3):
Hi

I regularly fly Monarch between Spain, where I live, and the UK.

The seat pitch is no better nor worse than in most economy flights on major flag carriers, and more importantly, the majority of their flights run to time, possibly because they have a realistic turn round time.

If you attain frequent flyer status, you have access to extra legroom seating with a pitch of 34 inches.

Overall a pleasant way to travel from point A to B.

Rgds

I don't recall an economy seat ever being that small; I don't remember any seat ever being that cramped or confining.

If that's normal, then I'm pleased with my decision to never fly again. I've decided my fear of flying is incurable.


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8690 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5631 times:

Heard they stink on long haul. If anyone can prove me wrong, please let me know.

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5624 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 7):
Heard they stink on long haul. If anyone can prove me wrong, please let me know

You have probably based that opinion on the negative reports about Monarch that have been written on Skytrax but just remember some things
  • people will often complain and criticise when they are not satisfied but rarely sing praises if they are satisfied
  • there are a handful of negative opinions from over 2.5 million long-haul passengers that Monarch carry every year
  • Monarch are the longest established UK independent airline, still under the same ownership and management, and if they stunk on long-haul, would they still be around?
  • Perhaps people's expectations are too high after experiencing stella service and facilities on 4* or 5* airlines and then expect similar gimmicks, gadgets and service on a charter airline.
I have flown Monarch long haul and found them perfectly adequate. True, leg room is restricted (but no worse than many other airlines - scheduled and charter) but if this is really an issue, why do you not pay extra for seats with extra leg room or seats in Premium Class? The IFE is basic compared with that offered by other airlines, and the choice of food is limited. However, on the positive side I find that what Monarch lacks in facilities, they make up for this by the high professional standards of their crews, and although the meal was standard airline catering, there was more on my tray than I have had with a 4* long haul carrier.



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User currently offlineDisruptivehair From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5620 times:

Quoting BCAL (Reply 8):
I have flown Monarch long haul and found them perfectly adequate. True, leg room is restricted (but no worse than many other airlines - scheduled and charter) but if this is really an issue, why do you not pay extra for seats with extra leg room or seats in Premium Class? The IFE is basic compared with that offered by other airlines, and the choice of food is limited. However, on the positive side I find that what Monarch lacks in facilities, they make up for this by the high professional standards of their crews, and although the meal was standard airline catering, there was more on my tray than I have had with a 4* long haul carrier.

After experiencing the most uncomfortable 20 minutes of my life wedged into a tiny seat on board a Boeing 757 configured to seat 300 people, I can honestly say that if I ever do fly again it will never be aboard a Monarch jet.


User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5608 times:

Quoting Disruptivehair (Reply 9):
I can honestly say that if I ever do fly again it will never be aboard a Monarch jet.

It is a free world and your choice. However, if matters were as bad as you are claiming, Monarch would have been out of business long, long ago. I am just under 5' 11", my friend is over 6', and we tolerated the seat pitch on a long haul flight. And if you think the seat pitch on Monarch is bad, try sitting in the centre seat in Y on Virgin, where the location of an IFE box under the seat in front of you makes it even worse.

[Edited 2007-03-21 15:30:34]


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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11708 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5603 times:

Quoting BCAL (Reply 10):
And if you think the seat pitch on Monarch is bad, try sitting in the centre seat in Y on Virgin, where the location of an IFE box under the seat in front of you makes it even worse.

Or their window seats on the 744 grumpy 

ThomsonFly is much worse than Monarch, 8 abreast in their 767s, and about a 28 inch pitch. I really had difficulty getting into the seat, I'm 6ft, but luckily due to a cock-up when checking in they allowed me to move to a window seat which I had requested, which happened to be an extra legroom seat too! Otherwise I would have spent the 2 hour LGW-MAH flight stood at the back in the galley.


Dan Smile



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User currently offlineDisruptivehair From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5602 times:

Quoting BCAL (Reply 10):
It is a free world and your choice. However, if matters were as bad as you are claiming, Monarch would have been out of business long, long ago. I am just under 5' 11", my friend is over 6', and we tolerated the seat pitch on a long haul flight. And if you think the seat pitch on Monarch is bad, try sitting in the centre seat in Y on Virgin, where the location of an IFE box under the seat in front of you makes it even worse.

I can honestly say that I have never seen such a tiny, cramped seat in an airliner in my life. I've flown most of the US carriers plus BA and Air France, and I've never seen anything like it in my life. I ought to post photographs of it...I did take some.


User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5600 times:

Quoting Disruptivehair (Reply 12):
I have never seen such a tiny, cramped seat in an airliner in my life

How about this then?


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This is how people travelled in the 1960s and 1970s when on charter flights, and I can assure you it was far worse than today. The seat/pitch was so narrow that many pax could not even fit into them. And notice the pack of playing cards - that was the IFE in those days

 biggrin 



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User currently offlineDisruptivehair From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5595 times:

Quoting BCAL (Reply 13):
This is how people travelled in the 1960s and 1970s when on charter flights, and I can assure you it was far worse than today. The seat/pitch was so narrow that many pax could not even fit into them. And notice the pack of playing cards - that was the IFE in those days

I'm going to have to post the photos then. Obviously nobody believes me.


User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5589 times:

Quoting Disruptivehair (Reply 14):
Obviously nobody believes me.

Who said we did not believe you? We were simply pointing out that the standard seat pitch on Monarch's 757s is the norm for high-density short-haul configurations - i.e. 29 inches. Some seats (e.g. seats in emergency exit rows) offer more legroom and you can reserve these for a supplement.



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User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5587 times:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 11):
ThomsonFly is much worse than Monarch, 8 abreast in their 767s, and about a 28 inch pitch. I really had difficulty getting into the seat

 cry  I'm flying a Thomson 763 in July, are they really bad?  Sad



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11708 posts, RR: 60
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5580 times:

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 16):
I'm flying a Thomson 763 in July, are they really bad?

It was quite bad, I did a trip report which detailed my thoughts fairly well!  silly 

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/trip_reports/read.main/85687/

They are though reconfiguring their entire fleet I think, so you might be lucky and get on one of the refurbished aircraft! Otherwise, I hope you're less than 5ft tall  Wink


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User currently offlineAidoair From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5574 times:

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 16):
I'm flying a Thomson 763 in July, are they really bad?

Its really your personal opinion. I find the width of the seat fine and i dont think there is really much noticeable diffrence between the seat widths in a 2-3-2 config or a 2-4-2. As for the legroom i think the 30" seat pitch is comfortable especially for short flights 5 hours or less but if you are on the tall side on a longer flight it would be better to upgrade for extra legroom or to premium.

If you are flying longhaul (and on a number of shorthaul flights) from this May then theres 33" legroom in economy and other extras like seatback IFE anyway so it should make it even more comfortable.
Hope this helps,

Aidoair  Smile


User currently offlineRB211LTN From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5535 times:

I flew on Monarch from Gatwick to Goa a couple of years ago and it was one of the best flights I have ever been on. we were on the A332 in Premium. The space was good, the crew were pleasant and the food was as good as any I have had in 'proper' J Class on BA. The Premium upgrade is well priced and most people should be able to afford it. The cabin is generally full on all their long-haul flights.Things didn't look so good down the back. As mentioned by other contributors Monarch would be out of business if they were that bad. I have also flown with them on short haul to GIB, AGP and TFS on their scheduled services and found them equally good. Sure, legroom is a bit tight (I am 6ft tall) but it is bearable on one of those flights. I'm off to Oz next month and I have paid to go J Class on GF (£1900, which I think is a very good price). If Monarch flew to Oz I would happily travel in Premium, they were that good.


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User currently offlineBaguy From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 546 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5522 times:

Monarch is a great airline. OK, maybe the seat pitch isn't that good, but the in-flight service, food is really good.

BAguy


User currently offlineFemme From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5508 times:

How come you're so worried/concerned about the seat pitch on an Airline when you are so scared of flying ? My Husband is the same as you and seat pitch doesn't even enter his head....

 Confused

Getting ON the plane is the big thing for him as a fearful flyer, the fact that the seats are different in size etc doesn't enter the equation....Least he and you get on, there are plenty out there who wouldn't !!

ps, flown many times with Monarch and was quite comfortable.


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