ARGinLON From Vatican City, joined Jun 2005, 614 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 15272 times:
In my experience working for OA and nonreving on BA, I have been upgraded to Club World many times (long haul) in different circumstances:
Flight being full in WT/WT+ Aand available in CW.
Other times I got the upgrade after politely asking the crew upon boarding or the flight dispatcher at LHR.
N917ME From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 730 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 15207 times:
Actually two staff members of mine (we do not work for BA) were upgraded both ways from the States to LHR and back. They actually called them during boarding and asked for the boarding passes, the agents thought they were getting bumped and were handed Business Class boarding passes. This has been on at least two seperate occasions.
BCALBOY From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 14921 times:
So far as upgrades to F are concerned , only very senior OAL staff e.g Board Members have any real chance of getting F and this would be arranged in advance between the respective airlines' Interline Departments.
Someone from a OneWorld partner travellling on a Duty Tkt with J priority has a slight chance of getting upgraded
if loads require but this would only happen if there were no eligible BA staff and is extremely rare.
Occasionally a senior BA Manager based overseas e.g Sales Manger ,Country Manager or Airport Mgr may auth his counterpart from another carrier to travel F either because he may be useful to BA in solving probs from time to time or because the BA Mgr is hoping when he wants to travel his counterpart will reciprocate and offer him an F u/g.
With general ID90,ID75 or ZED tickets there is nil chance that an OAL staff member will get FRCL.
( Remember that the diff between Y and F on BA LHL is vastly diff then between Coach and F on US domestic...the cost of providng the service is much more...they serve Champagne and Wines up there that cost £150-£200 a bottle ).
The good news is that BA policy is basically that an aircraft will not depart with empty seats ( barring weight probs) and leave staff behind .They will juggle passengers around between cabins upgrading BA staff according to entitlement and will upgrade staff 1 cabin above their entitlement if loads require. They will also move Commercials e.g J to F to make room for staff. If flight is open in all cabins you are normally only upgraded according to entitlement unless you work on Check-in when you might get J even if not entitled ...or if you are cabin crew or relative( e.g Wife of optg Capt .) or boyfriend of one of the optg Cabin crew you will probably get upgraded either by the Dispatcher or on the Taxi Out ). On several occasions travelling F , we pushed back with only 3 or 4 in F and by the time we got to the end of the runway there were 7 or 8 in the Cabin !!
Certainly being dressed well helps in being chosen for upgrade but this would normally only become a factor when upgrades are required ......i.e you won-t get upgraded from Y if it isn-t full no matter how you are dressed.
Asking at Check-in or on Board is likely to have an negative affect and some agents will comment you in DCS as 'NSFU' ...Not Suitable For Upgrade ...if you wind them up too much !
In general I have found BA pretty good . I understand that some carriers such as QF / SQ / VS will leave space availble staff behind rather than upgrade either commercials or other higher priority staff to Premium Cabins to make space avail in Y for the lowest priorities...maybe others can confirm this is so.
LHR777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 14757 times:
Basically, if you're an agent (or at a similar level) at any other airline, you will NOT get upgraded to BA First. It just ain't going to happen. You may be lucky to get J or W, but BA staff will always have priority over you.
However, remember this - BA DO upgrade OAL employees. OAL don't tend to upgrade us very much though! (Subtle hint there to all OAL gate agents...! )
Lan1981 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 14726 times:
BCALBOY seems to have summarised the procedure pretty well; however (and as BCALBOY and others have said) the question of whether a non-BA employee gets upgraded does depend on lots of other variables besides the official criteria - staff on-board may upgrade you as a courtesy, if they so wish - I was upgraded on a Virgin flight purely because the in-charge crewmember said that whenever he flew with BA, the staff always did their best to find him a nicer seat...etc etc......
At the end of the day, after having been bumped off so many flights, any seat is a good seat!
Evan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 14610 times:
Quoting BCALBOY (Reply 11): My experience on DL was that they optd a policy of only upgrading if Loadfactor in J didn-t exceed 75-80%
I have not heard about that. DL will upgrade all non-revs including buddies in J in order of their senority date even if it's the last seat. If it is an OAL non-reving I don't think you are 'suppose' to upgrade, but I hear from many OAL people that they get upgraded. Check nonrev.net for more non-rev information and a forum that needs to grow.
The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...