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User currently offlinePilotcoex From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5936 times:

Is the Los Angeles to San Francisco route still the busiest in the world? I know four years ago it was, followed by Los Angeles to Las Vegas.

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User currently offlineRoberta From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5878 times:

top 10 in 2003

1)TYO-SPK
2)TYO-FUK
3)TYO-OSA
4)HKG-TPE
5)SEL-PUS
6)SYD-MEL
7)SEL-CJU
8)TYO-OKA
9)LON-NYC
10)SYD-BNE

EDIT: passenger movement apparently

[Edited 2004-06-03 20:41:13]

User currently offlineATL2CDG From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 296 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5823 times:

Roberta:

What actions formulates the basis for that list? Enplanements? Aircraft movements? ASM?



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User currently offlineWomack17 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 490 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5775 times:

A few years ago it seems to me that I saw a list of flights between Rio and maybe Brasilia or Sao Paolo there were flights taking off in both directions at 15 minute intervals. They began at like 0400 and lasted until like 2345 - I know I didn't dream that up. Can someone with Sabre access maybe check those pairs and see if they are still that regular?


Oh how I miss Midway Airlines. A class act right to then end.
User currently offlineDaumueller From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 693 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5708 times:

nowadays, I only count 7 RIO-Brasilia flights daily.

User currently offlineErikwilliam From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 2152 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5695 times:

Womack17, YES.
RIO(SDU) to SAO PAULO (CGH) was one of the busiest, but less now.
A few years ago flights started(week days) at 6.30am until 11.45pm with 15-20min breaks, within Varig, Tam, Transbrasil and Vasp.That almost broke all of them. Now Vasp is small, Transbrasil is gone and Varig doing bad.
The route is still busy, but now with less flights and bigger breaks 30-60min, depend on the part of the day. I can´t get the numbers of pax right now, sorry.

Hope that helps.  Big thumbs up



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User currently offlinePzurita1 From Greenland, joined Sep 2002, 1393 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5673 times:

Womack,

Probably you would refer to Sao Paulo-Rio de Janeiro shuttle. In peak hours there are probably 4 or 5 flights every hour... But they are done in small a/c.

There is no comparision to 50 daily flights between Tokyo and Sapporo with widebodies.

I guess the correct way to measure the most busy route is by pax transported. Hence, Tokyo-Sapporo and this list that follows.

PZ



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User currently offlineChrisZRH From Switzerland, joined May 2004, 423 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5663 times:

wow, didn't knew that!! i think LHR-CDG was/is a very busy route. heard about new york - washington, shuttle flights, where you didn't need a ticket, you could board the plane and pay when your seated


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User currently offlineN6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5570 times:

The June 2004 edition of Business Traveler magazine (pg 11) has a claim from Eurostar that 2 out of every 3 travellers between London and Paris now take the train instead of flying.

User currently offlinePzurita1 From Greenland, joined Sep 2002, 1393 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5568 times:

According to my estimates, Sao Paulo-Rio de Janeiro ponte aerea used to fly 74,327 pax weekly in summer 2003.

You can compare this number with
LON-NYC 53,580 weekly pax
LON-Chicago 20,713 pax


Saddly I do not have estimate for other routes (ie LON-DUB, Tokio-Sapporo, LON-PAR, etc)

PZ



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User currently offlineCx340 From Mexico, joined Sep 2000, 609 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5368 times:

What about LON-DUB and MAD-BCN? I remember reading somewhere, maybe in these forums, that these routes were the busiest, or at least had more daily flights between city pairs.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33289 posts, RR: 71
Reply 11, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5335 times:

Among the world's busier routes:

London-Dublin, London-Paris, London-New York City, New York City-Miami, New York City-Chicago, New York City-Boston, New York City-Washington/National, Los Angeles-San Francisco, Honolulu-Maui, Madrid-Barcelona, Sao Paulo-Rio de Janeiro, Santiago de Chile-Buenos Aires, Tokyo-Sapparo, Honolulu-Tokyo, Melbourne-Sydney, London-Singapore, Bangkok-Singapore

The above list is in no particular order at all. The busiest domestic US route is Los Angeles-San Francisco, followed by Miami-New York City.



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User currently offlineFLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1188 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5325 times:

Wonder what the numbers are between the Los Angeles Basin (BUR, LAX, SNA, Long Beach, Ontario) and the San Francisco Bay Area (SJC, SFO, OAK), all airports included.


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User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3762 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5314 times:

I feel a shortest, fattest posting coming soon.

Is it LON-AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA?


User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2175 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5295 times:

from the current OAG file...

CGH-SDU & vv: 889 weekly nonstops - 116620 weekly seats
SYD-MEL & vv: 805 weekly nonstops - 163602 weekly seats
HNL-OGG & vv: 527 weekly nonstops - 50407 weekly seats
SFO-LAX & vv: 360 weekly nonstops - 47190 weekly seats
LHR-DUB & VV: 269 weekly nonstops - 40160 weekly seats



User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3055 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5268 times:

The London to Dublin is the worlds busiest air route.

I have searched the airlines websites on an average day in August and there is a total of 112 flights a day between the two cities.

This is quoted on numerous websites as being the busiest route in the world.

I have no figures to confirm this but if each flight was to carry to 100 passengers on average this would total 78,400 pax a week and if flights were to fly full this figure would be more closer to 110,000 pax a week.

London Heathrow ---> Dublin
Aer Lingus - 14 flights in each direction - 320/321
BMI - 8 flights in each direction - 320/321

London Gatwick ---> Dublin
British Airways - 4 flights in each direction - 734
Ryanair - 6 flights in each direction - 738

London Stansted ---> Dublin
Ryanair - 12 flights in each direction - 732/738

London Luton ---> Dublin
Ryanair - 6 flights in each direction - 732/738

London City ---> Dublin
CityJet - 6 flights in each direction - 146


User currently offlineTravisNC From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5129 times:

I know this thread is about city pairs (ie LGA-ORD), but if you include entire metros then LAX/SNA/ONT/BUR/LGB-SFO/OAK/SJC has to be one of the busiest metro to metro markets. By my rough count there are around 180 flights/day between the metros:

Alaska Airlines - 6 flights
American - 31
jetBlue - 6
Southwest - 95
United - 42
TOTAL - 180

Most on 737/A319 sized planes.


User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6903 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5063 times:

As usual, you have to decide what "busiest route" means. Does "route" mean one airport-pair? Or if we group airports, we have to decide how large the groups can be.

Then you have to decide whether you're counting flights or passengers, and, if the latter, maybe you have to decide whether you're counting O&D passengers or all passengers.

Busiest airport-pair, by passenger count: I'm guessing Tokyo Haneda to Sapporo; the seat count is probably highest there?

Busiest airport-pair, by flight count: Santos Dumont to Congonhas used to be tops, and maybe still is; Madrid-Barcelona is another possibility. Taipei-Kaohsiung (?) wouldn't be too far behind, along with other Asian routes. No US route can compare any more, though circa 1990 LAX-SFO had about 90 each way a day, which may be the all-time record. Sydney-Melbourne was heavy for a time but I guess they're down now?

No London-Dublin airport-pair is a contender, and when you group their airports I suspect they have a hard time beating Los Angeles area to San Francisco area-- by flight count anyway.

As to the original question-- if by "Los Angeles to San Francisco" you meant LAX-SFO, that airport-pair hasn't been the busiest airport-pair for years, if it ever was.

[Edited 2004-06-03 23:57:30]

User currently offlineRDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1549 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5036 times:

I was relatively sure LONDUB was not the "World's busiest route", so I wanted to check two others...(keeping in mind I'm checking for co-terms like the above claim)

NYC-CHI has 85 flts a day each way. for a total of 170. Mostly 737's/A320's.

WAS-NYC has 98 flights a day each way! 196 total flights. US, DL, and EGL all operate hourly flights from DCA to LGA. You can also add 25 more flights a day each way when Independence Air starts EWR and JFK service from IAD this fall.

I didn't check the U.S. west coast markets...but I know LA/SF has a ton of flights too.


[Edited 2004-06-04 00:01:57]


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User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6903 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5027 times:

"The London to Dublin is the worlds busiest air route....This is quoted on numerous websites as being the busiest route in the world."

Do they really say it's the busiest route? Or just the busiest international route?


User currently offlineSnnams From Ireland, joined Apr 2004, 288 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4951 times:

Timz,

From what I have heard, Dublin-London is quoted as the Busiest International Air route.


User currently offlineCayman From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 905 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4862 times:

I would be surprised if YYZ to YUL or YYZ to YVR is not very much in the upper ends of that list too--there is certainly huge traffic between them

User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6903 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4831 times:

Count up the scheduled flights and let us know.

User currently offlineQantas077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5870 posts, RR: 39
Reply 23, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4801 times:

HND-SPK

busiest air route in the world, nearly 10 million passengers in 2003 and roughly 40 widebody flights a day between sapporo and tokyo.



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User currently offlineJupiter2 From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 915 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4754 times:

SYD/MEL today Friday the 4th June is as follows:
QF : 33 flights, 19 763's, 8 762's, 3 738's, 1 744, 1 333 and 1 332
Virgin Blue : 22 flights all 738's or 73G's
Thai : 1 744
UA : 1 744
Nice total of 57 flights comprising 3 744's, 27 767's, 25 737's and 2 330's.
That is why it is amongst the busiest routes in the world.
RL


25 Qantas077 : you can take out the UA and TG flights, they aren't allowed to fly domestic passengers.
26 Jupiter2 : They may not be allowed to carry purely domestic passengers but they are allowed to carry transit passengers who may have stopped over on TG or UA. Th
27 AeroOzzie : Hmmm...really depends on what u term busiest: 1) in terms of numbers of flights? 2) numbers of passengers? or 3) total landed weight between two indiv
28 CarbHeatIn : LON(METRO)-DUB is the busiest route in the world between two capital cities. LHR-JFK, if I remember correctly, is the busiest international airport pa
29 Post contains images ScottishLaddie : LON-EDI! Well, there's at least 20 flights a day from LHR alone. Then there's the flights from STN and LTN and LGW and LCY.
30 Lan_Fanatic : Although not the busiest one, SCL-EZE is quite competitive. We have: 7 daily LanChile flights operated with A320s and A340s 5 daily Aerolineas Argenti
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