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User currently offlineJDAirCEO From Uruguay, joined Jan 2006, 259 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3169 times:

With many new regional aircraft, like those with DL, US, and NW offering F, what is the serivce level?

Is the serivce level more than just a large seat?

Is there meal service or upgraded snacks?
Beverages other than beer and wine for alcohol?
Dedicated F/A?
Powerports at every seat?


An MD-80 is great... in first class
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User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1333 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3150 times:

Quoting JDAirCEO (Thread starter):

With many new regional aircraft, like those with DL, US, and NW offering F, what is the service level?

Is the service level more than just a large seat?

Is there meal service or upgraded snacks?
Beverages other than beer and wine for alcohol?
Dedicated F/A?
Powerports at every seat?

What I can say on the DL regional F class service:

1. Only flight I can think of with a meal in F is the SLC-YYZ, all the others have the same snacks as Y. (Although more snacks like DL mainline has should come in the near future like Sunchips and drinks like DL mainline like the "mile high mojitos".
2. Their is other beverages other than beer and wine, like rum, vodka, etc...
3. One of the two FA's will serve the F class first then help the other back in Y.
4. No power points or IFE.



"To fly or not to fly there is no question!"
User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1982 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3136 times:

For QK in the CRJ-705 you have meal service (when length of flight dictates), AVOD (back gets that too), your own f/a, free drinks and lounge access and all that fun stuff!


Keep the shinny side up!
User currently offlineHelvknight From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3063 times:

On BD Regional in the E145 there seems to be an enhanced meal level, hot towels and the like. one of the 2 FAs does the front cabin first then helps the other in the back. The last time I flew them there also seemed to be another pass by the FA.

Food and drink are free in both the front and the back (unlike on LHR routes or MAN-ORD - go figure)


User currently offlineXJETFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3048 times:

What scares me is the idea of a F-Class on a regional jet to begin with. I love the E-145's. But I get the feeling these airlines will push the distance of travel even further if the people with money are willing to pay for comfort. Which leaves the Y class pressed like sardines on 3+ hour trips..

First Class is changing. The idea of it being something special has left for something ok, like a larger seat on a smaller aircraft...


User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2997 times:

Quoting XJETFlyer (Reply 4):
But I get the feeling these airlines will push the distance of travel even further if the people with money are willing to pay for comfort.

Can't really happen. The base 145's can't go more than like 2.5 hours air time reliably, and the 145 XR's can't do more than the 3.5 or so that your namesake airline runs them on. Not to mention ExpressJet is the only XR operator in the world. I'm sure Continental would run something crazy like EWR-FAT if they could in an XR, and that Comair would go CVG-SEA in a CRJ-100 if they could. The planes won't do it though.


Caveat: Mesa often times runs CRJ-200's CKB (Clarksburg, WV... about 70nm south of PIT) to PHX. But they're just maintenance ferry flights with fuel stuffed in to the caps.


User currently offlineATWZW170 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 904 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2709 times:

US Airways Express doesn't have F class --- United Express is supposed to have things like box meals, Mesa, Skywent and Shuttle America have that product -- although I can't imagine YV actually providing good service. I was on a Shuttle America flight to MSY --- they had not mini's -- offered one beverage service then sat in the back of the plane and did nothing -- not impressed. I recently flew OO -- they had a snack basket and were much more attentive.


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User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2605 times:

Tornado, CO used to use the XR on IAH-BOI (1288nm), which is 2nm longer than IAH-FAT (1286nm), but I bet winds would make IAH-FAT useless without any good payload. They also flew IAH-BFL, 1241nm


What now?
User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2584 times:

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 7):
Tornado, CO used to use the XR on IAH-BOI (1288nm), which is 2nm longer than IAH-FAT (1286nm), but I bet winds would make IAH-FAT useless without any good payload. They also flew IAH-BFL, 1241nm

Yeah... I'm aware of this, it was accounted for in my 3.5 hrs for the XR. I actually wrote some of those same exact routes down in another thread on the very same topic of stretching the XR. Someone thought an XR could actually run IND-LAX for DL until I showed them what the limits of XR routes were.


User currently offlineS5FA170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 534 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2555 times:

Service standards are determined by the mainline carrier. When I was at Shuttle America, Delta F class on the Embraer 170 received a meal service at 1550 miles, or for competitive reasons (ORD-LGA and ATL-JFK did not meet the mileage requirement but did receive meal service). Additional perks included hot towels, pre-departure beverage service, free drinks, and the ability to hang your blazer/jacket in a wardrobe closet (a surprisingly big deal to some people!). On the United side, Explus boxes were offered on flights over 759 miles. On flights under 759 miles, a snack service was offered. On flights where no service was offered in coach, a service was always provided in First. I can only speak on-behalf of myself, but when I worked the "A" position and was responsible for First Class I did absolutely everything I could for them. Sorry to hear about the poster above who's flight attendant sat in the back the whole way.


Prepare doors for departure and cross-check.
User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2525 times:

Quoting XJETFlyer (Reply 4):
What scares me is the idea of a F-Class on a regional jet to begin with.

Airlines are having to add them because of not only making their business travelers and frequent fliers happy, but also on some of those routes, they have competition that has a front cabin. I doubt you'll ever see them on 50 seat and under regional jets though.

I remember hearing back when FL experimented with a regional jet product that the lack of a business class on the CRJ-200s was the biggest complaint they had from their FFs.


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