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Overflight Same As Visiting? Your Opinion  
User currently offlineThvgjp From Ukraine, joined Mar 2002, 158 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 12 months 15 hours ago) and read 4528 times:

Would you guys say that overflying a state/province or country can be considered visiting the country. Granted you may not be touring said area on land but you are technicaly within its borders. Example being I overflew Kentucky can I saw I was in or visited Kentucky if ever asked what statews Ive been to?

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User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5925 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (8 years 12 months 15 hours ago) and read 4518 times:

Quoting Thvgjp (Thread starter):
Would you guys say that overflying a state/province or country can be considered visiting the country.

Of course NOT.

User currently offlineJonathan-l From France, joined Mar 2002, 518 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 12 months 15 hours ago) and read 4518 times:

Overflying: no
Airport transit: no
The minimum for me is spending a day and even then, it's just "I've spent a day in so and so"

User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4578 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (8 years 12 months 14 hours ago) and read 4447 times:

lol, my best friend (79 countries) and I (73 countries) are doing a contest to try and visit the most countries in the world.
We always argue what counts or what not and try to bend the rules in our benefit. If landing somewhere but staying on board the plane doesn't count, I have to scrap Azarbaijan but he has to scrap Iceland and the Ivory Coast from his list. If changing planes but staying within the airport territory, I have to scrap Russia and India, but he has to erase Libya. If you have to spend at least 24 hours or overnight, he has to erase Argentina, Paraguay and Birma as well and we will both loose Macau.
So we wish there would be a definitive answer on this question Big grin

nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offline113312 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 627 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 12 months 13 hours ago) and read 4386 times:

I would have to say NO. This is probably backed up with Dept. of State policy. US air carriers are allowed to overfly Cuba but are not allowed to land there. I have flown over Cuba many times but have never visited there.

User currently offlineNickbbu From Romania, joined Jan 2007, 185 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (8 years 12 months 13 hours ago) and read 4353 times:

I would have to say: NO.
I am a statistics geek, I keep a flight log and also a country log. This way I know exactly how many hours I’ve spent in each country [1.USA: 4728 hrs (197 days / 6.5 months), …., 21.Switzerland: 2 hrs]. Even if I visited a country for only a few hours, it still counts as a visited country.
But overflying a country, that’s a different thing. I would have liked the idea, because I could have added more countries to my country log, but unfortunately I would be lying to myself.


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User currently offlineStarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 12 months 4 hours ago) and read 4175 times:

No Way.

Ive overflown dozens of countries that Ive not visited.

Here's what I consider that I have visited (You can tell where I work the most).

Countries visited:
Austria 5+
Australia 2
Belgium 10+
Canada 10+
Cayman Islands
China (PRC)
China (ROC) / Taiwan
Czech Republic 2
France 10+
Germany 10+
Gibraltar 2
Greece 2
Hong Kong 10+
Hungary 10+
Ireland 10+
Italy 3
Japan 5
Macao 2
Mexico 5
Netherlands 10+
Northern Ireland
Poland 10+
Singapore 10+
Spain 7
Turkey 2
USA 80+
(44 states, CA > 40, NY > 30)
UK (live)
Vatican City

So far in 2008 45 flights and Gold already. JFK, IAD, LGA, SIN, HKG, NRT, AKL, PPT, LAX still to book ! Home Airport LCY
User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5543 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (8 years 12 months 3 hours ago) and read 4163 times:

Touching the ground implies visiting. Overflying means a nice view (if weather cooperates).

Overflying does not count.

Kind of like: Does watching sexual intercourse mean you have done it?

You can't cure stupid
User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4150 times:

If that were the case, I sure as hell would have visited a lot of Africa! When in reality, I visited one city.

The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineDFW13L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4143 times:

I have overflown Canada 32 times but have never landed there! I can't say that I've been to Canada if I haven't actually been there.

I don't really consider that I have been to Germany, though I have transited FRA twice and ridden a train that entered and exited Germany from Austria but didn't stop.

I think considering you have been there if you overflew it is....cheating!

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