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Freedom Air Any Better Than Mesa?  
User currently offlineDeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 6
Posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3361 times:

Hi guys,

I'm flying on Freedom Air (DL Connection) tomorrow GSP-CVG on an ERJ and was just wondering if the overall service and quality of Freedom Air is any better than Mesa?

I understand that the two are owned by the same guy, but do they have different managements?

Thanks.


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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3357 times:

Nope... they are one in the same.


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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4264 posts, RR: 34
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3296 times:

At Freedom Air, they serve full hot meals, champaign and they have on board swimming pools... While at Mesa you will be put in a box in the cargo hold. Also Freedom Air never has inflight turbulence due to superior flying skills of their pilots   ... oh well from a passenger perspective, there can't be much difference from one DHC-8, ERJ or CRJ flight or the other, I imagine. Only when things go wrong or huge dalays you'll see the difference between bad service and good.

[Edited 2007-06-07 16:02:19]


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User currently offlineDeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3273 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1):
Nope... they are one in the same.

OK, that's what I was expecting.

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 2):
oh well from a passenger perspective, there can't be much difference from one DHC-8, ERJ or CRJ flight or the other, I imagine. Only when things go wrong or huge dalays you'll see the difference between bad service and good.

Hahaha, well, the flight is going out completely full tomorrow, so I hope there's no trouble.

Thanks for the replies.  Smile



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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4947 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3238 times:

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 2):
At Freedom Air, they serve full hot meals, champaign and they have on board swimming pools... While at Mesa you will be put in a box in the cargo hold. Also Freedom Air never has inflight turbulence due to superior flying skills of their pilots ... oh well from a passenger perspective, there can't be much difference from one DHC-8, ERJ or CRJ flight or the other, I imagine. Only when things go wrong or huge dalays you'll see the difference between bad service and good.

LMAO!!! Great! I am booking a flight ASAP!



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User currently offlineAsuflyer05 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2371 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3182 times:

As others have said, Freedom and Mesa are all the same. Though Mesa's quality can differ between the carriers they fly for.

User currently offlineEjmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3122 times:

I've flown freedom several times... MCO-MIA, TLH-TPA, TPA-RDU etc. The service is no different than any other delta connection carrier. The ERJ's are in good shape on the inside, and you get the same snack selection as all other DL Connection carriers. (peanuts, cookies, crackers)


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User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1875 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3057 times:

I was an F/A for both, thankfully I've moved on to greener pastures. The company considers them two different entities, so if you are at Mesa and want to transfer to freedom, you have to go through a separate ground school. Freedom's management (base supervisors, IOE instructors) are MUCH higher quality then what we had over at mesa (in my opinion) they were a smaller group, and had the organizational skills mesa lacked! They did all their own tech ops publications, many things were shared however. They also have their own announcements...etc. Mesa was a lot bigger than freedom, so if you go to Mesa stations in ORD, IAD (where the average F/A seniority is 6-12months) its an absolute mess of inexperience. But if you fly mesa out of the "homeland" in PHX where a lot of the F/As and pilots, agents, have been around for years, the product is much better. MCO is that way for freedom. In fact, a lot of the freedom management (in-flight) are freedom "A listers" They were the original new hires when Mesa created freedom back in the day for the start of the 900 flying to get around the US Airways scope clause. Freedom died briefly as you know, and the 900s were brought back to mesa, however YV kept one B1900 on the freedom certificate, when it eventually signed the Delta contract, freedom was a very implemental part of that contract and was soley mesa's tool for a "delta connection" provider. Hope that helps.

User currently offlineN710PS From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3038 times:

Hahahahahahah Freedom. Wow, Mesa with jungle jets in Delta colors. Their MX department is deploreable, pilot pay right on scale and by that I mean Delta ticket agents make a good 2K a year more than them. They have terrible on time percentage and to top it off oh did I mention all of their pilots are what I like to call 500 hour wonders who went to RAA and think they know about flying. My best freind used to work almost all Freedom flights at MCO in the evening at Comair on the ramp. He tells me horror stories along with my experinces of the company to boot. Mesa has a leg up on these guys though not by much. All it really is is a certificate diffrence when it all boils down to it. They have low completion rates as well.


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