United905 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 158 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 6505 times:
Hi all im off to san fran in november and cant make my mind up how to get there.So here are the flights.First UA/LH. then AC.let me know witch you would take.
CONECTING.LHR/DCA ua 777
The next option is via ORD.777 With either 757 or 767 on to SFO.
SFO DCA LHR
SFO ORD LHR
SFO FRA LHR.UA 747.LH A321 A300.
Now for AC.
LHR YYZ. 777
YYZ SFO A321
SFO CAL A320
CAL LHR A330.
There is allso an option to return on a 777.
There are many more ua options but you get the genral idea.
SiouxATC From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 381 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6482 times:
It depends on what FF account(s) you hold? However I can say, earlier in the year I was on UAL 931 LHR-SFO nonstop, and it was a great flight. The service was awesome, UA has the best F/As and Gate Agents of any US airline. The food was normal for UA, better than most other airlines anyways. If you can get in econ+ your set. Trust me go with UA, you wont be sorry!
No real reason to take AC on this route. You say 777 for the LHR-YYZ leg, but that is no guarantee. Going through YYC (CAL as you put it) would be alright, but with the direct flights there's no real reason to stop. Your best bet is as follows:
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 23169 posts, RR: 23 Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 6454 times:
Having to depart LHR is such a horrible experience in the first place, take a nonstop UA flight if you're limited to Star Alliance carriers. Their service may not be the best but the fact that it's nonstop more than offsets that in my opinion. If you connect when you don't have to you're just increasing the probability of further delays, missed connections, lost baggage, not to mention taking several hours longer.
Hate to burst your bubble on this part, but I do believe you would be going to IAD instead of DCA for travel to and fro LHR. Unless you were to fly into IAD from LHR and then take the train or bus over to DCA to fly to SFO, but I do not even know if UA was granted a perimeter exemption slot for this route or not.
Mohunk From United States of America, joined May 2007, 56 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6393 times:
I assume since you are asking about a flight 4 months from now that you are not in the air every week. If that is the case I would advise flying United. They have channel 9--listen to the flight deck radio. I can't imagine any A-netter not being interested in this unless they are flying all the time and are the ones doing the talking (pilot, FO). If you view the trip as the journey and not the destination, go through ORD. Those ATCs are BUSY, I find it fascinating. I have never had trouble with lost luggage, missed connections, etc., although I know of some who swear they will never go through ORD again!!!!! Have fun.
PS--Since you wrote "witch" I had assumed you would be flying Oct 31!
FlyKev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1364 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6389 times:
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Id VS it if it was my decision. great flight, great service plenty of free drinks and free alcohol for all, plus V:Port!
Still if you are earning miles for * alliance, I suppose its easier to go direct with UA. You do get a 77 and of course, channel 9, which I've never experienced, but sounds decent.
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LHRBFSTrident From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 643 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6358 times:
if you're limited to Star alliance take NZ via LAX - then you only have to suffer UA for a 1 hour flight up from SFO
NZ really has a lot of pizazz these days - really stylish interiors, great cabin crew, great AVOD
second choice would be LH via FRA (the A300 may not be around for many more years, so get it while you can) LH is very efficient at what they do, a/c are clean and everything is so organized!
AC would be third - at least the 77W has AVOD, but their regular service is rather 'soviet' in my experience
UA only if it's significantly cheaper - IAD is quite a boring airport to transfer through - if you have a long transit, it's dull and uninteresting with only UA a/c as far as the eye can see (more or less) UA service tends to be similar to AC, but on a bad day!
If not limited to *A then:
VS is great, BA is great
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EISHN From Ireland, joined Feb 2007, 1507 posts, RR: 7 Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 6351 times:
Having just completed a similar sort of trip, SNN-DUB-LAX-DUB-SNN I'll give my advice.
1. Direct flights are great. It's such a hassle to connect and it's time consuming, and tiring. So take the UA 777 flight and do whatever you can to get in Economy Plus.
2. Space. You really need space for such a long flight. That's why above all I would recomend UA. Up to 36 inches of pitch really makes all the difference.
3. IFE. In this case I would choose NZ via LAX. Having just flown on one EI's new A30s that has the same type of Y seat as NZ, only with two inches more legroom, and more IFE options, I'd say NZ is probally the nest choice in (almost) every category.
So all you need to decide is whether you want a lot of space. If you do, choose United direct. You get 36 " pitch, a PTV with 9 looping channels and a direct flight.
If you want a little more options as to IFE, and a better service, then go with NZ.
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Why fly 500 miles in the wrong direction, then spend at least an hour waiting for a connecting flight. About 5 hours after you originally departed LHR you'll probably be flying almost over London again. Not a very good use of time in my opinion.
Quoting LHRBFSTrident (Reply 13): UA only if it's significantly cheaper - IAD is quite a boring airport to transfer through
UA has a daily nonstop LHR-SFO. Why connect at IAD if you don't have to? Again, just adds hours to the trip and invites problems.
If you really want to connect and use Star Alliance carriers, the NZ option via LAX is probably best, but adds at least 3 hours to the trip which is long enough even on a nonstop. And as someone else mentioned, if you're interested in aviation which you obviously are, being able to listen to the ATC communications on UA's channel 9 is a good way help pass the time if you can't sleep. I'm not aware of any other airline that offers that service.
i agree if time is important - but these itineraries were suggested by the OP so I took it that they wanted feedback for these specific itineraries
oh - and 500 miles in the 'wrong' direction is not uncommon - KL once offered me LAX-AMS-DUB-BHX - meaning I would overfly my destination airport twice, once eastbound, once westbound, before finally landing on an eastbound service: i declined and found another routing because time was very important on that particular trip!
Next up: LAX-LHR NZ002 Y SkyCouch! LHR-LAX NZ001 Y
United905 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 158 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6275 times:
Thanks all for repying.
Ive done this trip twice before once with delta and once on ua/lh.The price on the ua/lh has droped again so im gona take the direct out to sfo and the sfo/fra/lhr back.Do united still fly 747s to fra.Its showing a 777.
Acey From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 993 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6248 times:
Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 20): Wow, they must really have changed those perimeter rules ! IAD, perhaps ?
The typo was addressed in reply 9.
Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 20): AC's new business class is much more stylish.
I'll address that statement in the context of the thread. If one were to fly SFO-YYZ-LHR or SFO-YUL-LHR or through YVR or YYC, you may get a plane with a new interior for the shorter segment, but the Yxx-LHR sector will be a plain old AC aircraft.
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LHRBFSTrident From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 643 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6241 times:
Quoting Acey (Reply 19): The problem with this is that, as it stands, the 77W isn't on the YYZ-LHR route.
Ok - I stand corrected - it's still a 77W in Sept on my itinerary: I honestly didn't check forward to the Nov scheds which obviously occurs after the end of summer scheds...
Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 20): Hmmm, not really - the brown they use in Business Class is uniformly gloomy and awful. AC's new business class is much more stylish.
Well, I'm willing to accept to accept your opinion if you're willing to accept mine. I like uniform interiors even if the base colour appears gloomy - to me it's the pax and the 'accoutrements' of service that make the cabin interesting and visually appealing. Things like the seat fabrics and sidewalls are merely a backdrop for the real action, so to speak. If the seat fabric is too jazzy, it tends to fight with everything else that goes in the cabin - so to me AC's new J cabin looks like a bad 80s ski-ing jacket fabric - I'm surprised the curtains aren't done in acid wash denim
but the point is moot - the OP chose UA/LH
Next up: LAX-LHR NZ002 Y SkyCouch! LHR-LAX NZ001 Y
JGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6230 times:
Quoting LHRBFSTrident (Reply 22): so to me AC's new J cabin looks like a bad 80s ski-ing jacket fabric - I'm surprised the curtains aren't done in acid wash denim
Well, yes, I can see that point of view - it is a little garish, but the overall ice-blue colours are much nicer than the institutional brrroowwwnnn of NZ - it is just so very brown, and with no relieving highlights of stone or green or anything, which surprised me.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 23169 posts, RR: 23 Reply 24, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6198 times:
Quoting Acey (Reply 21): If one were to fly SFO-YYZ-LHR or SFO-YUL-LHR or through YVR or YYC, you may get a plane with a new interior for the shorter segment, but the Yxx-LHR sector will be a plain old AC aircraft.
You're overlooking that 7 AC 767-300ERs now have the new interiors and flat-bed J class seats.