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Most Turbulent Areas In The World  
User currently offlineKevin From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1140 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Had some bad experience ith turbulence over Montana recently. Would be nice to know for the future what areas in the world experience turbulence more than others. For instance I heard the Bay of Bengal was bad... Thanks for your replies.

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User currently offlineLY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2671 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

I would say Japan, and the Pacific in general; the Alps are often bumpy, too


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User currently offlinePHKLM From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Dec 2005, 1198 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting LY777 (Reply 1):
I would say Japan, and the Pacific in general; the Alps are often bumpy, too

Generally, all mountainous terrain is prone to turbulence.


User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

In my experience - the Midwest from about Salt Lake City east as far as Chicago - can get v bumpy, especially over the Rockies. Also West Africa.

Most turbulent flight Ive ever taken was SSH - LGW on a FJ 752. *VERY* bumpy.



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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2992 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting PHKLM (Reply 2):
Generally, all mountainous terrain is prone to turbulence.

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In my experience, the stretch of the Pacific between Hawaii and the West Coast can also be pretty choppy.

However, it's really hard to generalize, since so much depends on the conditions at any given time. I have had beautiful smooth flights there, and also over the Rockies, Andes and Alps, and I have had very rough flights in random unexpected places due to weather systems or just clear air turbulence.



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User currently offlineAirlineBrat From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 649 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

The Pacific is famous for turbulence and from what I have heard and it always seems to happen during a meal service according to my step-mother who is a retired flight attendant for UA.

Some of the best turbulence I have experienced was flying into ANC on flights from FAI and SEA. Winds from the Chugach Range oftentimes sends aircraft tossing around.

The most turbulent flight I have been on occurred during a flight between FAI and ANC in December 1991. There was a large winter storm heading towards Alaska from Japan. We were down around 10,000' and just passed Wasilla with the lights of Elmendorf AFB to our left. I was not sure how much altitude we were gaining and loosing while we were being tossed around. That was the only time I have ever dug my nails into the arm rest. I was sitting in the second to last row so the turbulence was more noticeable. It smoothed out around 2,000' and the passengers on the Markair 737-200 erupted into a loud cheer after we safely touched down on the runway. The flight attendant said that it was nothing compared to flying into Cold Bay. Many of us were connecting to a flight down to SEA and after we boarded that aircraft, all we talked about was the turbulence coming down from Fairbanks.



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User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3096 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

I've had some fantastic turbulence in the vicinity of BOM during monsoon time (June - Sept).....East of BOM there are mountain ranges and the combination of monsoon clouds and mountains creates heavy turbulence..... smile 

User currently offlineNG1Fan From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 446 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Over the Phillipines!

User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2235 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Central Africa - Equator, almost always bumpy, no matter what altitude you fly at.


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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 3):
In my experience - the Midwest from about Salt Lake City east as far as Chicago - can get v bumpy, especially over the Rockies. Also West Africa.

...I'll have to agree and disagree to a certain extent there friend...I fly SJC/LAX-ORD 10-12/year (for the past 5 years) and while it does get a little bumpy consistently (I would say 3-5 times per year), it's usually not that bad.



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User currently offlineGeorgiaAME From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 957 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Southern approach into Kahului on Maui. Over water approach as you fly between the eastern and western parts of the island. Always rough, 24 hours a day, wild in the mid afternoon. Departure toward the east is usually pretty smooth. And the scenery both coming in and going out is great. (Try it on Microsoft Flight Simulator, if you can't get to the Islands)


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User currently offlineTancrede From Finland, joined May 2006, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Over the North Sea, during winter times.

User currently offlineAwthompson From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting NG1Fan (Reply 7):
Over the Philippines!

Well, the Philippines do get a large amount of convective type cloud with accompanying thunder storms as well as frequent typhoons. I have flown internal in the Philippines quite a lot in the past three or four years and have not have any notable turbulence, however I must admit to admiring very well developed vertical cloud scapes which I have not seen so many of elsewhere. These cumulonimbus formations always fortunately seemed to be well to either side of our flight path.

I have certainly heard of the severe and even extreme turbulence associated with the mountainous regions around Anchorage. I even recall a 747 having an engine ripped off on climb out from Anchorage. If anyone wants to know more about that event, I can dig out the facts of that particular emergency.

Like someone has already hinted, all thunder storms by their very nature come with strong vertical air currents and turbulence - so areas more proned to thunder storms will also be more proned to turbulence.

High mountainous areas also are proned to airflow disturbances depending on wind directions and speeds, often of the Clear Air Turbulence category.


User currently offlineFlyVail From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Flying in or out of DEN during the summer "monsoon" season is a recipe for bouncing. Especially when we get the mountain wave blowing across the plains, smacking into the Front Range and doubling back on itself.

User currently offlineJFK69 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1406 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Coming back from SYD to LAX was a nice smooth ride, the continuation from LAX-JFK on UA was the worst of my life. It happened somewhere above the mountains, approx 2 hours out. All the passengers drinks were spilled everywhere. You saw the liquid go up.....and then down. The fiood carts came loose and some bags dropped from overhead. All in all pretty damn scary.

User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7498 posts, RR: 24
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

This is a trick question because its really all situational. I fly to all parts of Asia very frequently and ive had rides that we crazy and rides that were smooth the whole way. In my experiance, ive had more turbulence around Indonesia than any other part of Asia (coming into SIN). At the same time I had some crazy turbulence comeing back from NRT-LAX 2 months ago, but it was midway through the ride, not close to Japan. Ive never had notable turbulence going in and out of Japan in the many times ive flown into NRT. In fact the smoothest ride I every had on a long haul was AA176 NRT-DFW. Not one bump from take off to touchdown!!!

Funny story through. I flew LAX-NRT on UA 891 last month. Before take off the pilots talked about how bumpy the flight was going to be and to be prepared. There was only one point when he turned on the seatbelt sign on and it wasnt anything notable.

The only place where ive had turbulence every time ive flown in and out of is DEN.

But to answer the question, I would say these areas:

1) From South of Japan to Southeast Asia (ive heard horror stories, but in the times ive flown down there, never experianced anything notable)
2) Bay of Bengal (probably the most notable)
3) Central Africa over the Equator
4) Denver
5) Alaska



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User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting FlyVail (Reply 13):
Flying in or out of DEN during the summer "monsoon" season is a recipe for bouncing. Especially when we get the mountain wave blowing across the plains, smacking into the Front Range and doubling back on itself.

Roger that!

DEN is notorious for year round turbulence on approach. First, you are coming in hot and high, combined with the sheer blowing off the mountains into the flat Denver area, you always get a bit or a LOT of turbulence at that airport. Flown through there dozens of times and I have NEVER had a smooth descent and landing.

Mountains tend to create turbulence, then again, I've had some pretty smooth flights out of DFW to the west coast that have been completely smooth.

As far as the Pacific goes, it depends. My grandmother claimed that "It is ALWAYS bumpy near the international date line" but now that I've flown across the Pacific more than she has, I disagree with her.

However, the worst turbulence I've ever experienced, as far as intensity goes, WAS over the Pacific just off the coast of eastern Japan. Was flying HKG-LAX in a UA 747-400 when we hit some clear air turbulence that sent that plane all over the place. It was short lived, but I've never seen anything so big and heavy drop like a cannon ball straight down. I remember flying up out of my seat, as my seat-belt was loosely fastened. The captain came over the PA and all he said was, "SEATBELTS!" with a great sense of urgency. We dropped 3 times, then it became COMPLETELY smooth for the rest of the 13 hr flight to LAX. I mean, NOT A RIPPLE!

Anywhere you go, it depends on the conditions of the air you are flying in. Doesn't matter where it is, there are always possibilities.

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User currently offlineArcrftLvr From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 825 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

For some reason it seems that over ELP is always bumpy. I would fly over ELP from PHX enroute to SAT every week and like clock work, we would hit choppy air directly over the City. Is there any significance to this?

Also, I know chop is broken up into varying degrees. But, I'd like to know what the official definitions are. For example, a lot of people will say that hit 'severe' turbulence when they only experienced light to moderate chop. Using examples, can someone define all the degreees of turbulence from light chop, light turbulence, to severe turbulence?


User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

The most turbulent flights i've ever been on all seemed to have been related to tropical weather. Flying through some monsoon storms over the east china sea this summer, which bounced my 747 around pretty well. also i went through the remnants of a hurricane on a NW airlines Saab 340 flying from MEM-HSV... that one the paramedics met the plane on arrival because an elderly woman became unconscious during the flight. i assumed she had just fainted but they have to assume the worst, i suppose. I've had some choppy flights over the rockies, one PHL-SAN flight, another MSP-DEN, on the DEN end was pretty bumpy. The north pacific seems reliable for some chop too. Mountains seem to be the most reliable sources though.


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User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1792 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

I can only speak for Japanese skies but it can get really really bumpy. The whole island nation is covered by mountain ranges and the jet-stream goes directly above Japan and it can get extremely bumpy. Also during the summer months, there are cumulonimbus clouds at many locations. I often hear pilots asking for alternate headings on the ATC channels and always say, "Due to weather."


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User currently offlineEMAlad From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Flying LHR-KUL-SYD the worst turbulance was over the Bay of Bengal. They even had to stop serving dinner because it got so bad. Never seen the wing of a 747 flex so much!!

Had some bad turbulance over the Alps once on a Ryanair 737-800.


User currently offlineSRT75 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

My vote is for RNO approach. Always seems to be bumpy.

User currently offlineArcrftLvr From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 825 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

PHX approach and departure in the summertime, especially if a monsoon is approaching. Actually, LAS and TUS can be included in this, as well.

User currently onlineRCoulter From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 544 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting SRT75 (Reply 21):
My vote is for RNO approach. Always seems to be bumpy.

I agree, especially in the summer in the afternoon if you get the zephyr winds coming down from the Sierras plus the 90+ degree heat, I have never had a smooth flight to LAS, always bumpy.


User currently offlineKubus From Poland, joined Dec 2005, 181 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 32767 times:

I would vote for LAS and PIT, from my experience. For LAS wasn't really that bad, but it lasted a long time, and started as soon as we started dropping from cruise. One of my cousins flies into LAS a lot and she always has a story to tell about a cart that got away.
PIT on a sunny and calm day has few bumps, but add any kind of wind or rain and it can get pretty bad. The worse I ever had was on TWA's J-31 (or maybe 41) from JFK to PIT, it was my last leg from WAW flight. Given the J31 isn't a largest plane, and it's more prone to conditions outside, but it was the first ever flight where the seatbelt saved me from having my head bashed into the overhead bin. I literally lifted off the seat. My seatmate, was screaming and I have to say, never heard a grown man scream like that before.
Another was LGA-PIT flight on US A319. This was two weeks ago on Thursday, the day that 3 pretty strong lines of storms came through town. I was kind of surprised that we are even taking off. Anyway, I'm seated in the last row, middle seat. We getting down from cruise, and break through the clouds. I'm thinking, I can see the ground, so we had to miss the weather. Then I looked a little further ahead, nothing but blackness, lit up by lighting. Once again the seatbelt saved the head, then again there is a little more room on A319 vs J31. Weirdest thing was the landing, I have never seen or felt a smoother landing, after all the shaking, the swings, and turbulance, it was as if someone just turned off everything and let us glide down gently onto the runway. Since I was the last one off the plane, I asked the PIC about the landing. He said he flew almost the whole trip by hand.

I flew through DEN couple times as well as over the plains, and really there wasn't much to write home. It's usually the approaches that are bumpy when I'm on board.


25 UAL747 : And let me tell you! Those wings will flap like a bird's up and down. If you happen to be sitting forward of the wing, it's amazing what engines 1 an
26 Post contains links 747fan : Here is an outstanding video of a turbulent takeoff in a LH 744 out of HKG. Look at that wing flex! www.flightlevel350.com/Aircraft_Boei...Lufthansa_
27 Post contains links Viscount724 : FAA turbulence categories: http://amsglossary.allenpress.com/gl...ary/search?id=aircraft-turbulence1
28 Md11fan : I have had the worst ever on approach to SLC during summer just horrible -Md11fan
29 PDXtriple7 : I've flown in and out of Denver at least 20 times and I nearly always remember being tossed around whether it's the summer or winter. It's usually no
30 Post contains images EZEIZA : I've always had bumpy rides flying bewteen Argentina and Chile when crossing the Andes. Last time was at the end of MAD-SCL on LAN while serving break
31 JoePatroni : I can agree with everyone who mentioned DEN. I had to fly back and forth between SFO and DEN every week for a couple of months and I don't think we EV
32 ReverseThrust : I would say my worst 2 flights for turbulence were (no coincidence, I'm sure) on an A321. The first instance was with Lufthansa (D-AIRO) flying betwee
33 Post contains images TimePilot : I've flown regularly between Nagoya and Tokyo with never any real turbulence. I've had bumpier bus rides before. I've also flown regularly from Tokyo
34 AlexPorter : I have three flights that were particularly turbulent. One was PHX-DEN on Frontier in December. This flight was actually smooth until we were in the D
35 Post contains images EWRCabincrew : I would think Iraq and Afghanistan to be two of the most turbulent places in the world. Seriously, PHX-LAS/LAS-PHX in the summer. Any day, or any airp
36 Bok269 : My only time flying WN was SLC-LAS-RNO. We were bouncing the whole way on the second leg. I enjoyed it. There was a girl in the back that wasn't so t
37 Post contains images 747fan : Nice point, definitely a lot of "turbulence" down on the ground there! Back in Oct. of '06, I experienced about 4 prolonged bouts of turbulence durin
38 Tennis69 : The east coast of China during the summer months is great if you like the bouncing like I do. There is always a big storm somewhere between PVG and SZ
39 GFFgold : Copy that, especially this time of year. I came into CAN over HKG the other day in a 738 and there were some weird and wonderful vertical air movemen
40 TurkishWings : My bumpiest flight was on an LH B 744 between JNB and FRA around the equator. I guess it's no coincidence though.... My second bumpiest flight was bet
41 AutoThrust : From my experience i agree with the Bay of Bengal. We had a 2hours very bumpy "nightmare". I could imagine South America specially the Andes mountains
42 Post contains images Bofredrik : My experience is from several flights between BKK and SIN. That could be very bumpy or even worse. Real nightmare... In the summer when it is warm is
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