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How Much Do You Enjoy Flying Coach?  
User currently offlineJaws707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 708 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 7462 times:

I love aviation and everything about it. Everything from looking at airplanes at the airport, to learning about them, to talking about them. I have to admit though, that its getting harder and harder for me to enjoy a flight. I've always flown coach and I think the only things I enjoy anymore are the take off, landing, and looking out the window if I have a window seat. I usually fly either American or Delta and the service has been rather lacking. Sometimes they give a snack, sometimes not. Sometimes they give a full can of soda, sometimes not. On my last flight what really annoyed me was that when I booked it 2 months in advance I selected a window seat. At the airport I pring my boarding pass and it had me in another seat. The other seat was a middle seat betwen 2 guys. So it made me wonder, if I just lost my seat, what was the point of selecting one in the 1st place? How much do you guys/gals enjoy flying?

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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7462 times:

I love flying....but flying coach, I'd rather have a root canal without any pain killers.  Smile

Quoting Jaws707 (Thread starter):
On my last flight what really annoyed me was that when I booked it 2 months in advance I selected a window seat. At the airport I pring my boarding pass and it had me in another seat. The other seat was a middle seat betwen 2 guys.

I check my flights online about every week just to avoid things like you mentioned......I don't find that on CO I am getting my seat changed too often unless an aircraft changes, then crazy things seem to happen but staying alert for changes keeps things like not getting a seat I want to a minimum.



Any views shared are strictly my own and do not a represent those of any former employer.
User currently offlineANother From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7447 times:

What I'd like to know is why Americans call it Coach when the rest of the world calls it Economy?

User currently offline777-200 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1020 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7434 times:

The cheaper the ticket is, the more I enjoy it! Big grin


Another Day, Another Dollar.... Young Jeezy
User currently offlineSK601 From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 976 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7429 times:

It really depends from flight to flight. I really enjoyed my AMS-ORD in KL m-class last April, but my last LAX-AMS in KL m-class was a bit of a torture (middle seat, between 2 big, noisy, I-am-complaining-the-whole-trip, Dutch business men).

For flights less than 4 hrs I don't mind m-class at all. For those flights I really don't care what my seat is (pref. window), but not a big deal. Same for in flight. No PTV/Audio needed, I just read a magazine or two and I 'm satisfied with a drink and a small snack (peanuts/cookies).


User currently offlineAerLingus747 From Ireland, joined Apr 2006, 223 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7420 times:

For me it all depends on the length of the flight.Short haul flights are usually ok in economy.When it comes to long haul I cant stand economy.Every time I fly long haul I usually spend the whole flight board and usually tired.To answer your question no I dont like flying economy,which means I will have a fun night and morning to get back to Dublin.

User currently offlineKmh1956 From Bermuda, joined Jun 2005, 3324 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7409 times:

Much prefer economy....no "I'm so much better than you" snobs like you tend to find in F.


'Somebody tell me why I'm on my own if there's a soulmate for everyone' :Natasha Bedingfield
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10725 posts, RR: 38
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7404 times:

I do not like flying in Economy but these days I do not have much choice. This is still better than not flying at all.

Spending money on Concorde was worth every nickel and dime but on other aircrafts I do not really pay attention anymore.... They are all the same... so... slow...



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7402 times:

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 1):
I love flying....but flying coach, I'd rather have a root canal without any pain killers.

I agree with you but. referred to American carriers. Unfortunately my next flight is this Saturday with CO.


User currently onlineYflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 946 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7400 times:

As my user name implies, I always fly Economy.  Smile

I'm with SK601 -- it really varies from flight to flight. I've had really horrible flights and I've had really great ones. Probably the worst one was a redeye flight in the very back row of a UA 319. Limited recline, no room to streach out, and I was in an aisle seat so nothing to rest my head on, and it was during the holiday season so it was a full flight. I was completely exhausted by the time I reached my destination.

In contrast, I had a really great flight on DL back in May on one of the ex-Song 757s. I had the entire row to myself, which is great because as much as I love looking out the window, I try to get aisle seats on long flights because I usually have to go pee several times. So I had the best of both worlds. I spent the flight alternating between looking out the window and watching the PTV. Also, I really like the choice of snacks Delta now offers.


User currently offlineBok269 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 2105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7384 times:

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 8):
Unfortunately my next flight is this Saturday with CO.

At least they'll feed you.

I enjoy flying no matter what. On my last flight (HNL-EWR with CO) It was about 3 in the morning Hawaiian time and I couldnt sleep thanks to seatmate waking me up to ask me if I would mind her moving my armrest. I was getting miserable, so I walked up to the lavatory area by doors 3L and R to stretch my legs. I walked over to the tiny window to see if there was anything interesting below. Looking forward I could see one of the coolest sunrises I had ever seen. That is what it is all about.



"Reality is wrong, dreams are for real." -Tupac
User currently offlineHelvknight From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7372 times:

Quoting ANother (Reply 2):
What I'd like to know is why Americans call it Coach when the rest of the world calls it Economy?

Because Coach on a US legacy carrier is like Greyhound with wings.  Wink

I've got no real problems flying Economy under 8-9 hours, then I prefer being in Business.


User currently offlineTimePilot From Switzerland, joined Sep 2005, 296 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7369 times:

Flying coach domestically in the US? No way.
Flying coach internationally? Yes.

I always take JAL and in economy they've always been very nice to me. The seats aren't the nicest and the food isn't always so hot, but it beats flying AA domestically any day of the week!

The only airlines I've enjoyed flying domestically in the US is Comair; they were extremely nice.


User currently offlineJamesJimlb From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1023 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 7363 times:

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 8):
Unfortunately my next flight is this Saturday with CO.

unfotuently?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!??!?!!!?!?!!!?

CO is very good, unless if it is long haul coach.





naturaly i perfer first class any day, you know, it's just natural.



The sky is no longer the limit, but the mere minimum
User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11572 posts, RR: 61
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7359 times:

I quite like economy, I have thought about saving up and going in business/first, but even with enough air-miles to do so, I really don't want to, as they stretch far further and let me see much more of the world when in the back of the cabin. I think the only time I would fly Biz is to fly on a 737BBJ or the A319ACJ - but even so, they are going to be around for a long time and can wait a while.

I've got to say that flying got very boring for me towards the end of last year, during which I might have gone a little 'OTT' in flying 126 sectors. A lot were back and forth between home and university; same route, same aircraft (more often than not even the same registration) - booooring! Instead though I now try to collect rare aircraft types which I find immensely fun - it really puts the enjoyment back into flying for me, partly the challenge of picking the right route and airline combination to get on the 'wanted' plane/airline.


Dan Smile



...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24075 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7346 times:

Quoting ANother (Reply 2):
What I'd like to know is why Americans call it Coach when the rest of the world calls it Economy?

I think it has origins in railway terminology. The lowest type of passenger seating on US trains (what is usually known as 2nd class in Europe etc.) was always referred to as "coach". I expect the term got picked up by the early airlines and it stuck.

Ironically, long-distance buses in the USA are usually called "bus", while in certain other English speaking countries (e.g. the UK) I believe "coach" is the more usual term, and "bus" usually refers to local city buses.


User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 23
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7341 times:

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 8):
Unfortunately my next flight is this Saturday with CO.

Well if you don't like them why fly them, walk if they are the only airline you have.

Fortunately all my flights are on CO.....very happy OnePass Member.



Any views shared are strictly my own and do not a represent those of any former employer.
User currently offlineNG1Fan From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 446 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7328 times:

Why do they call it coach in USA? Probably easier to spell correctly....

I fly economy - company policy, unless the routing/timing is such that only business class tickets were available (which frankly occurs rarely). Want to upgrade? I burn miles.

Privately, I also fly economy - I've never actually paid for business class. But sometimes the whole family was upgraded, other times, I burn miles.

Best part about economy: requesting for the seat next to be being blocked. Reminds me: I flew CX many moons ago on my father's Diamond Card. 747 was almost full in Y but I had a whole centre row to myself. Very hard to defend - one had to get horizontal immediately after takeoff.

Economy 'service'? Stick to Asian carriers. Though in Oz, Qantas is very good since they've dumped that stupid lunchbox.

Last time I flew in the USA - I was shocked what passed for 'service'. Best part: FA trawling the aisles towards the end of a flight calling out 'Trash, Trash'.

NG1Fan


User currently offlineLHRBFSTrident From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 652 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7316 times:

Quoting ANother (Reply 2):
why Americans call it Coach when the rest of the world calls it Economy?

What I'd like to know is why American carriers call it First Class when it clearly isn't... Big grin

IIRC KLM introduced the concept of Economy, but originally called it 'Tourist Class' - there are even some long-in-the-tooth ex-BOAC crew at BA referring to M-class as 'Tourist', admittedly with a rather ironic tone of voice

Quoting NG1Fan (Reply 17):
Last time I flew in the USA - I was shocked what passed for 'service'. Best part: FA trawling the aisles towards the end of a flight calling out 'Trash, Trash'.

...they won the Cold War just to turn into the USSR...



Next up: LAX-LHR NZ002 Y SkyCouch! LHR-LAX NZ001 Y
User currently offlineWestJetYQQ From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2987 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7311 times:

It's flying. If I have a window seat, I'll take it. Except maybe on Air Asia's A330s. I couldn't stand 9 abreast in one of those.


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User currently offline57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2550 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7309 times:

I love flying-just not sharing my ride with 49 other people and putting up with the nonsense involved with it. Given a choice, I will opt to take a private flight over an airline flight whenever possible.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 15):
I think it has origins in railway terminology. The lowest type of passenger seating on US trains (what is usually known as 2nd class in Europe etc.) was always referred to as "coach". I expect the term got picked up by the early airlines and it stuck.

Coach is a more general term referring to the passenger car itself. It's a holdover from the very early days of passenger train travel when the passenger cars were literally modified stage coach bodies mounted on a larger frame. The actual cars quickly disappeared as the American railroads favored corridore cars over the traditional European style cars that were subdivided into compartments. American railroad most often referred to the most basic passenger accomodations as day coaches or chair cars.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 15):
Ironically, long-distance buses in the USA are usually called "bus", while in certain other English speaking countries (e.g. the UK) I believe "coach" is the more usual term, and "bus" usually refers to local city buses.

True when you talk about the general public. However, those of us in the trade refer to them as coaches.



"When a man runs on railroads over half of his lifetime he is fit for nothing else-and at times he don't know that."
User currently offlineUAL757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 806 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7302 times:

How much do I NOT enjoy flying coach should be the question...

User currently offlineDelta767300ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2562 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 7256 times:

I love flying in general but would rather fly First Class or Business Class. Coach usually doesent bother me unless I'm on a cramjet 737-800. Earliar in the week I was in an exit row on an AA 763 and it was great. When I fly coach I try to get exit row seating. I also flew on an AA 777 in Business Class earliar in the week from DFW-MI and it was great. I never want to fly coach again.

-Delta767300ER


User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4104 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 7243 times:

Quoting ANother (Reply 2):
What I'd like to know is why Americans call it Coach when the rest of the world calls it Economy?

The American's have to take everything and add their own words for it, gives them a false sense of national pride when it comes to speaking our language Wink

Quoting Kmh1956 (Reply 6):
Much prefer economy....no "I'm so much better than you" snobs like you tend to find in F.



Quoting NG1Fan (Reply 17):
Why do they call it coach in USA? Probably easier to spell correctly....



Quoting LHRBFSTrident (Reply 18):
What I'd like to know is why American carriers call it First Class when it clearly isn't...

 rotfl 



Despite the name I am a Boeing man through and through!
User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 7235 times:

I only get staff tickets for economy so I am happy just to have them. I am 6´3" but still it is ok. Sure J-Class would be great but hey, I don't pay a lot Big grin

25 Post contains images TPAnx : Errr..what about "World Traveler" and "Euro Traveler"??? Seems the habit isn't unique to the US! As to traveling in "coach"--I've been in the front,
26 N5014K : Since you used the word "enjoy" in your original post, I enjoy flying coach when I have the whole row of seats to myself. I like window seats but I wo
27 AY104 : I fly so seldom any more. I don't mind coach one bit. My last - and only trip this year - was YVR-YUL-YVR on AC. The flights are about 5 hrs each way.
28 Tennis69 : 90% of my flights are long haul, 7000-12000km, so if I can't upgrade I pay the difference out of my pocket.
29 Post contains images WILCO737 : Well, if you dont enjoy flying coach: FLY Business or First class I know its usually a money issue... but its worth it, I always enjoy my Business cla
30 Post contains images A340600 : Good response
31 Post contains links and images Fanofjets : I quite agree. In fact, many of the aircraft I have flown on are congigured all-economy. I love everything about flying. To me, flying is magic, no m
32 Post contains images AustinAirport : I dont mind it any chance to fly is an opportunity learn.
33 Vtdl : I enjoy flying, especially on larger planes like 777, 747, 767, economy or not. Have flown on First Class, mostly on short flights to the Northwest. D
34 Viscount724 : I once worked with someone in my airline career who later became a senior executive for Greyhound in Canada. His name often appeared in their press r
35 AerorobNZ : Now that I fly business class regularly I have fast gone off economy, although I still recognise that our economy is much better than most, so I don't
36 Mdodd : I love flying and aviation in general, as well. However I fly 99% of my flights on Coach...however almost all on COA. I have never had a serious probl
37 Aerofan : You couldn't get me to fly coach if flight is over 4 hours.
38 N231YE : Flying in coach sucks, but since it is always the cheapest, if I need to fly, then I'll take it.
39 Fbgdavidson : Enjoy? It is certainly possible to have a pleasant flight in coach. My wife and I went to see my brother-in-law in San Francisco a few months ago and
40 Post contains images FXramper : This post is funny. I travel with my company about twice a month and always get upgraded. I wouldn't wish cattle-class on any Anet member.
41 Elite : The extra leg room and the overall quality of the flight is a lot better in Biz, but for shorter flights I still fly coach.
42 N776AU : 6 hours was pushing my patience. I made it through 8 hours ok, although getting 2.5 hours of sleep sure did help. 10 hours drove me to the point of in
43 Post contains images Krje1980 : Well, I've only flown business class once, and that was on a one hour flight between CPH and BGO on SAS; so there really was not much of a difference
44 Mike89406 : If you can afford F or J class or business and think it's worth it then great all the more power to you. I think those luxuries are great if you want
45 NG1Fan : My longest flights in Y-class were VIE-SYD on OS (twice) and VIE-MEL (also twice, since the transfer procedure to domestic flights in SYD is painful).
46 TACAA320 : And the "food" is like a crap. Just plain good between American carriers. But not that good specially compared with many other airlines. You're right
47 Bok269 : I've had worse. Either way I think CO is a very good airline. To each his own.
48 Mike89406 : Carriers flying in the US dont feed you meals unless you're flying International in economy or they have a Buy on Board other than that all you'll ge
49 TACAA320 : Me too. AA for example. And I've had better [ DL ]. I think so but only among American carriers.
50 Post contains images XJETFlyer : I hate coach/economy a lot! I try to fly first class or business when possible. It is so much of a rat race. People expect you to move in towards the
51 Mike89406 : I found the CO seats in to be the most comfortable in coach on US carriers I flew once over 5 hrs one way X-country on 752 and never got a sore butt o
52 Mike89406 : I haven't really experienced that myself but I could maybe see that on a 737 pr MD-80 or smaller. I dont think there's any doubt that people would ju
53 S12PPL : I dunno... I've very VERY rarely encountered that attitude in first class. I don't fly first class nearly all the time, but I try to as often as poss
54 Bok269 : I was thinking the same (with regards to the food). EIther way, if you don't like CO, that is your opinion and you are more than entitled to it.
55 Pizzaandplanes : Flying in any class sure beats driving! I enjoy any opportunity to view the world from a spectacular perspective.
56 TACAA320 : You seems to be one among very few a.netters who respect others opinion. Nevertheless, in the opposite side, not to be a CO's fan appears to be a sin
57 Mike89406 : My experience on CO is from past flights I liked CO long before A.net ever existed and it was my favorite direct flight to NYC when I used to travel
58 Aerofan : Quoting Kmh1956 (Reply 6): Much prefer economy....no "I'm so much better than you" snobs like you tend to find in F. How often have you flown in F? Ar
59 InbarD : I enjoy every flight though i must admit flying domestic around Australia is a much better and more comfortable experience then flying domestic in the
60 Post contains images Afterburner : Yeah, it's just natural. Especially when someone else (for example, your parent) buy the ticket for you. For me, with my current financial situation,
61 FlyboyOz : I only can enjoy flying Y's new product. For example, in SQ 773ER, i had the most comfortable seat I've ever had. I was able to sleep well like a baby
62 Afterburner : The best Y-class I've ever experienced was the Y-class on an SQ's A345 from CGK to SIN. The seat pitch is 37" and the seat width is 20"! The Y-class o
63 Siege2L : I enjoy flying Coach/Economy/EuroTraveler/Tourist as much as I enjoy drinking horsep*ss... ok, seriously, I am 6'2" ( 188cm ) so as long as I have adj
64 Jayhawk : The question: 'How much do you enjoy flying coach?' My answer: I cannot afford to fly anything other than coach, it is not a case of enjoying it, it i
65 Post contains images Afterburner : Don't be sad, my friend! You're not alone.
66 ThePRGuy : Eurgh, you utter clot. Moron. I pay to fly J whenever possible. People pay their hard earned cash to fly in these premium cabins. They are not better
67 Post contains images Fbgdavidson : Well put! I didn't see that post in the excitement of telling the world I can enjoy a flight in Economy I will say that sometimes you do see people (
68 Kmh1956 : I've flown in F plenty of times ....and paid mightily for the 'privilege.' Every time I've flown F, there have been several other passengers who have
69 Mike89406 : I can't understand why some pax like to label the pax who pay the extra amount to fly in a little luxury. Too much jealousy and envy surrounds our so
70 Babybus : Three seats together in Y (with a window) beats any seat in J or F. You don't get woken for meals, no fussy service and you don't feel the need to get
71 ThePRGuy : Then take back your comment that labeled anyone in F class as a snob, otherwise the truth of the above statement is a bit dubious. Alex
72 Kmh1956 : I can only speak from my personal experience..and this is what I have experienced flying in F. So, you'd like me to deny my own personal experience?
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