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What Can I Expect From Swiss MAN-HKG?  
User currently offlineMusapapaya From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1089 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4689 times:

Hello all, greetings from Liverpool!

I have booked a trip to HKG from MAN and is due to fly the following sectors in late October and return in Late November:

18:45 MAN - 21:45 ZRH LX 381 V-Economy
22:45 ZRH - 16:40 +1 HKG LX 138 V-Economy

00:05 HKG - 06:10 ZRH LX 139 L-Economy
07:10 ZRH - 08:10 MAN LX 390 L-Economy

Just want to have some expectations, I have never travelled with them but have done so on LH, BA and VS before. Therefore it would be nice to have some suggestions on how it is going to be (from those experienced flyers). The flight from MAN to ZRH is operated by a Helvatic Airways, any views on them as well?

The ticket was just cheap though and was about 500 pounds for each person round trip.


Thank you all for your input and I would try my best to do a trip report for these flights!


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User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4669 times:

The Helvetic F100 is rather nice. Not a bad seat pitch. Usually very friendly f/a. For service I guess you get drinks, a snack (sandwich?) and chocolate.
On your HKG flight you will have an A 340-300. The economy seats are ok as economy can be. You will have PTVs with AVOD. Movies, games, airshow and onboard cameras. On the intercontinental flight beer and wine is free (but I think not the liquors).
The transfer in Zurich is easy. Most probably you will arrive at the A-Gates and have to change to the E-Gates. You have to take the Skymetro which takes you within 2 minutes out there.

[Edited 2007-09-25 15:08:32]

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25338 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (6 years 12 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4629 times:

Quoting ZRH (Reply 1):
On the intercontinental flight beer and wine is free (but I think not the liquors).

Unless there has been a recent change, I am fairly sure all drinks (except Champagne) are free on LX longhaul flights in economy class. It wouldn't make sense and would be very inconsistent for passengers if LX was more restrictive than LH when they codeshare on many routes. I believe the free beer and wine is limited to intra-Europe flights.


User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (6 years 12 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4614 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 2):
Unless there has been a recent change, I am fairly sure all drinks (except Champagne) are free on LX longhaul flights in economy class.

Yes of course, you are right. All drinks are free in economy on long-haul flights except Champagne. I was a bit confused.

[Edited 2007-09-26 11:39:03]

User currently offlineMusapapaya From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1089 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 12 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4599 times:

Thanks everyone for your opinion! One thing I found weird, I booked the ticket on the Swiss UK website, got a confirmation number, but after more than 24 hours, the ticket still has not been issued and I have not got the e-ticket number. Is that normal? I remember when I booked a LH ticket, the eticket was issued within minutes.... Weird...


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User currently offlineThePRGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 12 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4590 times:

Quoting Musapapaya (Thread starter):

HI there.

Helvetic are excellent, I have done that route 3 times. Just hope you have one of the remaining pink colour units!

Swiss, onto swiss!

I have flown LHR-ZRH maybe 10 times in the past year, and I can say they have been consistently good and on time. These were mainly in Y, but recently I have paid up the extra £ for C class, and did a return to the south of Spain recently with them in C. Was lovely, I will post a TR soon so you can see the jist of it, even if you won't be on Euro-mainline equipment.

Cheers
Alex


User currently offlineRyanair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 12 months 19 hours ago) and read 4574 times:

Quoting Musapapaya (Thread starter):
The flight from MAN to ZRH is operated by a Helvatic Airways, any views on them as well?

I too flew Helvetic this year on the MAN-ZRH route, service is pretty basic - i.e. no sandwich - only a muffin, choice of drink and a (small) chocolate before landing. The only good thing about it was flying on the Fokker, hopefully LX will return on the route and provide something more substantial for the price.


User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (6 years 12 months 14 hours ago) and read 4565 times:

Quoting Ryanair737 (Reply 6):

You received the usual morning service on short LX intra-european flights. They serve a Muffin and sometimes yoghurt plus coffee/tea and soft drinks/juices on morning flights, while they serve the sandwich from about 11am.


User currently offlineMusapapaya From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1089 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 12 months 7 hours ago) and read 4555 times:

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 7):
You received the usual morning service on short LX intra-european flights. They serve a Muffin and sometimes yoghurt plus coffee/tea and soft drinks/juices on morning flights, while they serve the sandwich from about 11am.

It seems a sandwich is better than a muffin. Lol... To be hoenst, the ticket is quite expensive between MAN and ZRH, but just Helvetic flies this route so they can charge a bit more though...



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User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (6 years 12 months 3 hours ago) and read 4546 times:

Quoting Musapapaya (Reply 8):

Thats true, but as you pointed out rightly, Swiss ha sthe monopoly on this route. Didn't you book it all in one? You should have gotten a better deal out of this as you're connecting onto a longhaul flight in ZRH.


User currently offlineMusapapaya From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1089 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4524 times:

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 9):
Didn't you book it all in one? You should have gotten a better deal out of this as you're connecting onto a longhaul flight in ZRH.

Yes, we have booked it all-in-one. The price was 500 pounds per person roundtrip. So I would say its quite a good value.



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User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4522 times:

Quoting Musapapaya (Reply 10):
The price was 500 pounds per person roundtrip. So I would say its quite a good value.

Yeah that sounds quite reasonable, so the MAN-ZRH bit can't have been much as you wouldn't get much better deals for ZRH-HKG


User currently offlineMusapapaya From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1089 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4521 times:

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 11):
Yeah that sounds quite reasonable, so the MAN-ZRH bit can't have been much as you wouldn't get much better deals for ZRH-HKG

Oh right, but suprisingly, the price for BA transferring at LHR and other airlines like LH and KLM are about 100 pounds more expensive. Anyway I will try my best for a trip report.



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User currently offlineRyanair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4511 times:

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 7):
You received the usual morning service on short LX intra-european flights.

I see, for the price the food is poor (at least in the morning), I paid £170 for MAN-ZRH-MAN in April, which is actually the usual return fare per person all year round. Come on, is it really a big ask for an airline to provide more than a muffin for £170?? It is almost scandalous.


User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4504 times:
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I have flown many times with Swiss from Barcelona to Hong Kong in Business Class and, with Cathay Pacific, is the best airline I ever flown to this city.

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User currently offlineMusapapaya From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1089 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4498 times:

Oh right, can you guys also suggest the best seats in economy on the A340? Do you know where they put the IFE box?

Do they use Recaro seats by the way?

Thanks again!



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User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4496 times:

Quoting Ryanair737 (Reply 13):
I see, for the price the food is poor (at least in the morning), I paid £170 for MAN-ZRH-MAN in April, which is actually the usual return fare per person all year round. Come on, is it really a big ask for an airline to provide more than a muffin for £170?? It is almost scandalous.

That's standard nowadays, I got the same on BA to LHR. £170 seems overpriced, and is definately not the usual fare. There are fares in the CHF200s on a regular basis.


User currently offlineMusapapaya From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1089 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4448 times:

One more issue I would like to ask: I want to buy some Swiss chocolates from ZUR on my transit (thought its just 1 hour, I believe I could manage). Are there any good suggestions for decent Swiss Quality chocolates so that I can buy some for myself and friends?


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User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 35
Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4423 times:

Quoting Musapapaya (Reply 17):
One more issue I would like to ask: I want to buy some Swiss chocolates from ZUR on my transit (thought its just 1 hour, I believe I could manage). Are there any good suggestions for decent Swiss Quality chocolates so that I can buy some for myself and friends?

This should not be a problem. Go to the Airside Center , which you anyway have to pass when you are going to the Skytrain station. You find a lot of stores which have chocolate (duty free). There are many good brands as for example Lindt&Sprüngli or Cailler and others.
http://www.flughafen-zuerich.ch/ZRH/...4ne&ID_level1=8&ID_level2=65&a2=65 Click on "Airside Center". Unfortunately I have to give you the German link; on the English link I don't find the Airside Center (strange??? A bug in the page?). You find there the names of some chocolate shops: Boutique du Chocolat (on both levels) or Confiserie Sprüngli (also at Dock E, famous). But if you are really in a hurry stop at any Kiosk you pass and you should find chocolate there.
Here an overview:
http://www.zurich-airport.com/dokumente/zrh_etagenplan_EN.pdf

[Edited 2007-10-14 15:12:14]

[Edited 2007-10-14 15:14:22]

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