LINATE From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 77 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 years 10 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6043 times:
I am a GOLD FF member with AA and a Silver Elite with DL.
Next year I will need to pick one of them to continue my business which is mainly travel to Europe and South America. Which one should I pick? Both DL/AA have similar mediocre inflight service compared to European and Asian airlines, so I would like to take advantage to their international partners for longer flights. Any insights would be appreciated.
OW/AA -- easier to redeem miles, I can choose emergency exit seat at time of booking, more fligths to GIG, but very few non stop flights to Europe from LAX, and I almost always need to connect in LHR or MIA (Urgh...to LHR and MIA) -- limited options for European airlines ( BA/LHR or IB/MAD and IB sucks in my opinion)
SKY/DL -- harder to redeem miles, I can only get an emergency exit seat at the airport (if lucky), better flight options to Europe (including flying AF and KL non stop and connecting in AMS or CDG), good vibs from DL flight crew and a decent schedule to GIG.
Anyone has any more pros and cons to add to the list?
MastaHanky From United States of America, joined May 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 5 days ago) and read 6013 times:
FWIW, selecting emergency exit seating on DL international flights is a known issue and they are working on making this available to Medallion members (per a post on Flyertalk which I can dig up if you want).
Laxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24893 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 5 days ago) and read 5944 times:
If you live in LA as your profile states, why not try UA and Star Alliance?
United is the biggest airline at LAX plus hubs at nearby SFO. LA-Europe options are good with UA nonstops to LHR & FRA(starts Dec07) in addition to LH, LX options. You can also connect to other European airlines such as BD, OS, SK, TP via other US gateways. Asia is obviously very strong with UA and Star while you mention GIG which will be receiving a nonstop flight this fall by United from IAD.
Seating wise you'll have access to UA's E+ product offering a few more inches of leg room plus ability to reserve exit rows.
And the best part is you can likely get a status match from United based on your AA or DL status to give you a head start for a year. Check Flyertalk the details.
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Jkj777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 5 days ago) and read 5934 times:
DL hard to redeem miles???? In what way? I have never had trouble redeeming miles with them and from what I hear from others, their feelings are about the same. I am partial to DL and Skyteam and I like their partners. However, if you want to get to Southeast Asia and Australia it can be a little difficult.
COERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 5 days ago) and read 5927 times:
With AA, you have to buy upgrades($30 per 500 miles, ex. a 2000mi flight would be $120), or you get 4 500mi vouchers per 10,000mi travelled. However, Y/B fares receive free upgrades. With DL, you get free upgrades within/between the US, Bermuda, Caribbean, Mexico and Central America regardless of fare paid.
Deltaflyertoo From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1643 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 5 days ago) and read 5913 times:
SKYTEAM! Here is why: For most part AA and DL overlap esp. from LA (if that is where you are at) to east coast. However to Europe, AA is your only option. AA and BA aren't allowed to combine miles from anywhere in US to Europe. So that means you are either stuck on an AA flight or flying BA and NOT getting Advantage miles. At least w/ Skyteam you can fly Air France anywhere from US over to Europe AND get SKymilese. ALso, I THINK but not sure you can utilize Continental as well down to S. America and get the skymiles.
As for LH and UAL, yes a good match up, but not great on service. LH still doesnt' have PTVs in coach from LAX to FRA, and again you can't compare UAL in economy at least to what you would get w/ a Europeon carrier flying over....however Star is by far a lot more accomodating to Asia than Skyteam and even One WOrld. You didn't specify those, so something to think about.
LINATE From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5862 times:
Quoting Laxintl (Reply 3): If you live in LA as your profile states, why not try UA and Star Alliance?
Match status is an idea.... I used to be a UA FF. I do not fly to Asia a lot so that would not give me any advantage. And out of LA I pretty much only have UA and LH. I always try to fly nonstop to Europe to avoid connections in the US.
Quoting Jkj777 (Reply 4): DL hard to redeem miles???? In what way? I have never had trouble redeeming miles with them and from what I hear from others, their feelings are about the same. I am partial to DL and Skyteam and I like their partners. However, if you want to get to Southeast Asia and Australia it can be a little difficult.
I have several 100,000 miles on DL and can never get t use it. The skysaver option is always greyd out , especially on flights to GIG where I often go on vacation. Whereas at AA I can almost always get what I want for sometimes even 40,000.
Quoting Deltaflyertoo (Reply 6): However to Europe, AA is your only option. AA and BA aren't allowed to combine miles from anywhere in US to Europe.
Good point to consider. That makes me lean even more towards Skyteam!!!!
Here's a few reasons I've chosen AA:
Frequency in Schedule
Premium class checkin positions usually is top notch
AA.com is fairly flexible, lots of information (IMHO)
priority standby over non elite pax
ok, now I've never had elite on Skyteam, but this enough for me to keep my AA.. Domestically I guess that skyteam has the perk that NW, CO, and DL are all members... Cheers, let me know what you decide!
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26376 posts, RR: 76
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5825 times:
Quoting LINATE (Reply 7): And out of LA I pretty much only have UA and LH. I always try to fly nonstop to Europe to avoid connections in the US.
Well, you have LH to FRA and MUC, UA to LHR and soon to FRA as well, plus LX to ZRH and NZ to LHR. Pretty much similar to the other alliances. With OW you have AA to LHR and EI to DUB, as you still can't get AA miles flying BA. With SkyTeam, you have AF to CDG, KL to AMS and SU to SVO (only sort of a Euro destination, and no good for connections). So really, Star is your best bet for NS TATL out of LAX.
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