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What Would You Fly Of These 3 Planes?  
User currently offlineTb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1586 posts, RR: 9
Posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5704 times:

In the next year or so I am going to be given the opportunity to move onto some heavy iron at my company. It's all freight but the aircraft that I could be FO on are the DC-9-15, the 727-200, or the 747-100/200. Pay is about the same and so is the upgrade and the 747's are scheduled service vs. mostly on-demand for the 9 and 727.

Just curious, I am not sure what I would do, I think it would depend on the day I was asked so I might have to wait. Even though I really like the jet I fly now as a Training Captain(Dassault Falcon 20), I got into this to fly the big stuff.

What would any of you do, go for the 9, the 727 or the Whale?


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User currently offlineUncleBuck From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5704 times:

my first instinct would be to say go for the 747..however... the -100 is a really old plane, with a tainted safety record. or course, so is both of the others, haha. i have heard the 74 is a very easy plane to fly... i would at the same time think the dc9 and 72 are very fun to fly. i've never been on a dc9, but i know the md80 just seems to get up and go on takeoff rolls... only been on a 72 once, don't remember anything about it. anyway my opinion probably doesn't matter. as far as repuatation, it'd be pretty badass to say "yeah i flew the 747"... but i just think the dc9 would be funner to fly.

User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5705 times:

Quoting Tb727 (Thread starter):

Shit, this is what I call a damn hard decision to make. These are all classics! Keep us informed for which you decide!  Wink


User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17063 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5705 times:

Quoting Tb727 (Thread starter):
What would any of you do, go for the 9, the 727 or the Whale?

This is a really hard decision as OHLHD mentioned.

But I would go for the 727 or the 747. To hard to choose between this two.



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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5705 times:
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My preferences would be for the Boeing 727-200...

Just as a remember. Here in Spain we had the IB Puente Aereo fleet predominantly occupied with Boeing 727-200 and I miss them.

Last year, in a job trip to Bolivia, I had the chance to fly in a Boeing 727 (the -100 series) for a short flight (VVI-CBB) in my body demmands for more experiences with the 727 equipment.

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5705 times:

Hi!

All 3 models are great airplanes....I flew all 3 has a passenger in the past, and if you said the 727-100 I would go for that airplane right away!!! The 200 version is still a great airplane but doesn't look with "that" muscle the 100 had! The 747 is a great, steady, almost "lazy" airplane. In the end you have the DC-9-15....I flew that model in 1980 with KL and I tell you, that plane rocks...very fast on take-off, small and light, I don't know I just loved it!
Regards


User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5705 times:

Quoting UncleBuck (Reply 1):
my first instinct would be to say go for the 747..however... the -100 is a really old plane, with a tainted safety record.

What planet are you from? Care to provide some facts? I can assure the 747-100 doesn't have a tainted safety record!

For the OP, I'd take scheduled service. You can plan and have a life that way!


User currently offlineBok269 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 2105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5705 times:

Go for the 747 Classic. It may be your last oppurtunity to fly this majestic bird.


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User currently offlineTruemanQLD From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 1522 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5705 times:

Well I would personally fly the 747, but then the 727 is also a really great plane. Good Luck  Wink

User currently offlineTrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2342 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5705 times:

I would go with the 747 for prestige. Yes, the classic models have a less than stellar safety record in the past 10-15 years, but odds are still in your favor by a moon shot so it should not be a concern. It would be cool to say you're a 727 pilot too, after all they are a proud few nowadays.


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User currently offlineZuluLima From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 305 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5705 times:

I hope you like steam gauges! Go for the 747, even if just for the prestige.


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User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7140 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5705 times:

Quoting Tb727 (Thread starter):
747-100/200.

747! Its a big plane with alot of prestige. Also I would imagine you would do long haul trips and go to some places far away and also schedule service sounds alot better than on demand. I would go for the 747 thats for sure.



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User currently offlineTb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1586 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5705 times:

Yeah, I guess I am in a tough spot. I guess I am leaning towards a Boeing product. I think the DC-9 would just end up being a bigger version of what I am flying now. Plus 3-crew flightdecks are cool. Luckily, although I will find out more tomorrow, I won't have to be an FE on either the 727 or 747.


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User currently offlineAustinAirport From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 643 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5705 times:

Wow What a dilemma.  Yeah sure Poor, Poor You. LOL JP. Just close your eyes and pick one.  Big grin


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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5705 times:

Quoting Tb727 (Thread starter):
What would any of you do, go for the 9, the 727 or the Whale?

Would any of these form the base to move on to another a/c (type rating) in the carrier's fleet ?
If the type you chose were to be retired soon, you would end up either w/o a job or having to train on a completely new a/c ...

OTOH, there might be recruiting tactics behind it when offering you the decision between the 3 models.
If you bluntantly say "B747" this might imply that you think of the other a/c inferior = you would have no respect for the crew working on these a/c.

If you state one a/c specifically, be prepared to state reasons why you chose it over the other two.
 twocents 
-HT



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User currently offlineAlfa75 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 614 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5698 times:

Quoting Bok269 (Reply 7):
Go for the 747 Classic. It may be your last oppurtunity to fly this majestic bird.

Great suggestion. Besides if he wants to fly a DC-9 he can wait another ten years and fly one for NW.



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User currently offlineTb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1586 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5621 times:

Quoting Alfa75 (Reply 15):
Great suggestion. Besides if he wants to fly a DC-9 he can wait another ten years and fly one for NW.

Well that was my dream job flying for NW ever since I was 5 years old. Long story short, I will never fly on or for that dirty, back-stabbing airline after what they did to my family after nearly 30 years of service.  Angry


I am on the other hand leaning towards the 747. I parked next to one of ours at LAX yesterday and that plane is just awesome. I still can't say 100%, but I think that plane is awesome. I wouldn't have to move for any of the jobs on any of the airplanes since I already live at home base for the company. A schedule sure would be nice after flying on a pager 24/7 for the last 5 years. Wheels in the well after 45 minutes of notice gets old quick.



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User currently offlineJeffry747 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 963 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5602 times:
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My suggestions: Since the 727 is slowly but surely going the way of the dodo, try to get yourself a few runs on that bird just so you can say you got to fly the 727. I am no pilot, but I have flown as a passenger on the 727 and it's a very enjoyable plane to be on. After you got some hours on the 727, make the jump to the Big Boeing. I would give anything for the chance to fly the 747 just once. Not to mention the 747 is scheduled, so you can plan accordingly as others here have said. The 747 is very majestic and prestigious, and a guaranteed head turner. Those spotters WILL notice you, and someone is gonna take a picture and upload it to A.net with you flying the plane.


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User currently offlineEBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5516 times:

Definitely the 727-200


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User currently offlineDeskflier From Sweden, joined Jan 2007, 537 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5509 times:

If you want to stack up as many types as possible, go for the 727. On the other hand, with a 747 clearance, you will be able to find plenty of work for years to come. So it is a question about whether career or enthusiasm is the main driving force in your life.


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User currently offlineQXRamperMEII From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 93 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5468 times:

Quoting Deskflier (Reply 20):
So it is a question about whether career or enthusiasm is the main driving force in your life.

Best advice I've heard so far...since I've started flying "the line", I've heard all about QOL vs just having fun...

You've been chained to a 45 min report for the past five years...sucks, big time. The Whale will get you away from that. Until the company decides to change its policy...then you would have picked it for the the wrong reason....

Here's my 2 pennies on the matter. Go with what you want to be paid to drive across the sky. All are Classics, all have their own ways of being prestigious. Personally, I'd go with the 727. The DC-9 is too close to what I fly now (CRJ900), so it doesn't have a huge appeal for me. The 747...ok, yeah it's the Whale, it's a sexy airplane for its size and prestige, but really...you'd be flying a friggin building all over the place. Going from a Falcon to a 747...like Secretariat to Elsie the Cow. Zzzzzzz.....

The 727...seems like a sports car to me. Granted, I have zero time in any of these types, but from my perspective, it seems the way to go. Plus, my girlfriend's grandfather is a retired 727 driver. We've had literally hours and hours of talk about flying them. He's typed in all three that you've mentioned, check airman in the DC9 and 727, and has told me numerous times the 727 was his all-time favorite. It's a pilot's airplane...rewards good flying, bites you in the ass if you get behind the aircraft.

So, it boils down to what you want from your equipment upgrade. The two big factors -pay and upgrade- seem like a wash across all three types, so it's down to a scheduling issue. Fly a fun plane at a moment's notice, or know in advance how much you're flying the Winnebago...?


Post Script : I am by no means bashing the 747...I love that, and any Boeing aircraft. Just as a young, crazy, hair-on-fire RJ pilot, it seems too big to have fun flying. Any 747 drivers out there, let me know how it is


User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5423 times:

no doubt that would be the 747. beside it is a cool aircraft I assume that it would also help you to get to more "exotic" places compared to the 9 or 727!?


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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5422 times:
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Quoting QXRamperMEII (Reply 21):
has told me numerous times the 727 was his all-time favorite. It's a pilot's airplane...rewards good flying, bites you in the ass if you get behind the aircraft.

I've heard the exact same sentiments from more than one 727 driver. The single most rewarding aircraft to fly, they've all said.

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User currently offlineTb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1586 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 11 hours ago) and read 5303 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 23):

I've heard the exact same sentiments from more than one 727 driver. The single most rewarding aircraft to fly, they've all said.

That's what makes this choice so hard! I have heard that from just about everyone that has ever flown it. We've had guys leave the commuters because they flew 727's prior and just want to get back in the plane. I am kinda leaning towards the 747 though. They have a schedule and fly more per month with a higher guarantee. I am tired of being on a pager.



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User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3054 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 11 hours ago) and read 5303 times:

probably 727 definilty NOT 747-100 very poor safety record


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26 747fan : Well tell UPS, Evergreen, Kalitta, Iran Air, Orient Thai, and other carriers that, who currently operate 36-37 year old -100's and have never had a s
27 Post contains links TrijetsRMissed : And NW never had an incident with the DC-10, and it was in service several years longer than AA and UA. Chance always favors safety. But the classic
28 PhilSquares : If you're going to quote me perhaps next time get the entire quote! Nothing worse than taking things out of context. Rather than pointing out meaning
29 ZKSUJ : The 747, its a classic. Even if I was offered a heavy jet job tomorrow (one can wish) I would pick the 747-400 over the newer A346s and 777s
30 Post contains links PhilSquares : Just checked the updated version http://www.boeing.com/news/techissues/pdf/statsum.pdf. Looks like the revised rate is 1.43/2.54 for the "classic" wh
31 Post contains images TrijetsRMissed : You asked for some proof that the 747 classics have a less than stellar safety record. I gave it to you, and then you got defensive. How is that out
32 Post contains images Superfly : Tb727: All I can say is damn, I wish I had those choices! All three are great aircraft.
33 Post contains images Tb727 : Well the other good news with the 747 side of the equation I forgot to mention is that there is talk of -400's in the fleet in the kinda near future.
34 PhilSquares : That's why the statistics are given in millions of departures. What you provided me was a list of incidents that basically mean nothing. I provided y
35 TrijetsRMissed : Personal attacks? Please, cut the drama. You questioned the less than flawless safety record of the 747 classics. What I provided answers that. It ma
36 Post contains links PhilSquares : Here's the link again. www.boeing.com/news/techissues/pdf/statsum.pdf Worked just fine for me. Pleae re-read my posts, I didn't question the "less th
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