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Longest Passenger Flight In 747  
User currently offlineFox1211 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 1 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 8201 times:

Yes I was wondering if someone could tell me what is the longest non stop flight for commercial travel in 747. It seems the answer changes as do Airlines etc but it is hard to get a clear or current (with in 90 days up to current operation). The last I read was from a book, which said there was a nonstop from ORD to HKG. but it only said the time or average duration. Thanks in advance for your help.

P.S. Even if you don't know the source or date rather I would still like to know any best guess or longest you are aware of even if it is no longer flying.

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User currently offlineQFA380 From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 2081 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 8179 times:

Not too sure, but at a guess I'd say MEL-LAX is surely up there, 6883nm.

User currently offlineQantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 8171 times:

Currently the longest is

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 1):
Not too sure, but at a guess I'd say MEL-LAX is surely up there, 6883nm.

Correct but this is operated by 744ER with hgher MTOW/Range then the 744 and with 6773nm ORD-HKG this flight always takes longer than the slightly longer LAX-MEL becuse of the by far higher head winds then on LAX-MEL.

And this operated by a standard 744 with UA  Wink

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User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6873 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7991 times:

None of those threads answers the guy's question.

It's not currrent, but probably the longest-ever scheduled 744 nonstop was ATL-JNB.

[Edited 2007-09-19 19:20:11]

[Edited 2007-09-19 19:20:41]

User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4840 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7369 times:

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 1):
Not too sure, but at a guess I'd say MEL-LAX is surely up there, 6883nm.

 checkmark  I fly on it often... 15 hours LAX-MEL

Quoting Qantas744ER (Reply 2):
Correct but this is operated by 744ER with hgher MTOW/Range then the 744 and with 6773nm ORD-HKG this flight always takes longer than the slightly longer LAX-MEL becuse of the by far higher head winds then on LAX-MEL.

And this operated by a standard 744 with UA

That is true... however QF has at times operated it with standard 744. The 744ER is still classed as a 744 in any case... is a shame that only QF ordered them as pax a/c...

SYD-JNB must be one of the longest also... 6862nm also into headwinds.



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8455 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7268 times:
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Quoting QFA380 (Reply 1):
Not too sure, but at a guess I'd say MEL-LAX is surely up there, 6883nm.

That just pips SYD-JNB at 6,862 miles but JFK-JNB with SAA 744 was 7,969 miles and I have done both.... LOOOONG!!



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User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6873 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7263 times:

Quoting Andz (Reply 6):
JFK-JNB with SAA 744 was 7,969 miles

7969 statute miles, he means.


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8455 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7130 times:
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Quoting Timz (Reply 7):
7969 statute miles, he means.

It is still longer than MEL-LAX at 6,925nm



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User currently offline747fan From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1187 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7111 times:

United's ORD-HKG is up there at about 6700-6800 nm. It was the longest flight in the world when it was introduced back around 1997. I believe the longest scheduled pax 747 flight ever was United's JFK-HKG flight, which I believe was discontinued due to 9/11. It was nearly 7000 nm. I've also heard that it was often weight-restricted.

User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6873 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7071 times:

Quoting 747fan (Reply 9):
It [ORD-HKG] was the longest flight in the world when it was introduced back around 1997.

Not if JFK-JNB was still nonstop then. Don't recall if ATL-JNB had started by then.

Quoting 747fan (Reply 9):
I believe the longest scheduled pax 747 flight ever was United's JFK-HKG

That might be second-longest.


User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17068 posts, RR: 66
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6993 times:

How long timewise was this in the 744? The 346 covers the distance in 16½ hours, but I believe the 744 cruises faster.

Quoting 747fan (Reply 9):
I believe the longest scheduled pax 747 flight ever was United's JFK-HKG flight, which I believe was discontinued due to 9/11. It was nearly 7000 nm. I

7014 nm according to the Great Circle Mapper. Bound to be a bit longer. IIRC we passed on the other "side" of the pole so did not go straight the whole way.

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Quoting Timz (Reply 10):
Quoting 747fan (Reply 9):
I believe the longest scheduled pax 747 flight ever was United's JFK-HKG

That might be second-longest.

How fast did the 744 cover this? CX schedules this at 16½ hours but the 744 is a mite faster in cruise.



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User currently offline747fan From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1187 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6957 times:

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 11):
How fast did the 744 cover this? CX schedules this at 16½ hours but the 744 is a mite faster in cruise.

I'd imagine a little more than 15 hours on the JFK-HKG leg, as CO's EWR-HKG flight is generally 15 hours, 15 minutes to 15.5 hours long, and the 744 cruises at Mach 0.86 compared to 0.84 for the 777. I know UA's ORD-HKG flight is generally about 14.5 hours, maybe a bit less - ORD-HKG is about 300-350 nm. shorter. The return flights out of HKG are probably close to an hour shorter.


User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1817 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6627 times:

How about Johannesburg-Dulles, which is a nonstop flight? It was opereted by 747, altough i don't know if they switched.

User currently offline747fan From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1187 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6592 times:

Quoting AlexEU (Reply 13):
How about Johannesburg-Dulles, which is a nonstop flight? It was opereted by 747, altough i don't know if they switched.

This flight is nonstop via DKR. I believe it used to be a 744 and it may have been nonstop on the IAD-Johannesburg leg, but the flight is now an A343 one-stop both ways. Recently it was also an A346, which was nonstop eastbound and 1-stop westbound.


User currently offlineReadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3319 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6571 times:

In the cold light of day, wot the hell do you do to pass the time?
My current longest flight is 12 hours, and I was climbing the walls, even in Club Class.
I plan to fly to AKL soon via Singapore and take a 2 day break there, before flying on,should I take some sleeping pills, get drunk, do yoga, or upgrade to First Class? Not looking forward to all that "dead" time.



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User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3214 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6562 times:

Quoting 747fan (Reply 9):
I've also heard that it was often weight-restricted.

"Often" is not a good word to describe it. "Heavily" would be a better word to describe it!!! CX operates JFK-HKG nonstop on the 346 or with a fuel-stop in YVR on the 744. UA operated JFK-HKG nonstop on the 744, with weight restrictions upwards of 80 seats.

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 11):
but I believe the 744 cruises faster.

The 744 is currently the fastest-cruising widebody.


User currently offlineBWilliams From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6473 times:

What about KE's JFK-ICN route? My friend flew that this summer, and he remembered that he was on a 747 (well, he remembered that the plane had a small second floor, but same difference).

I think he said that it was 16 hours or something.



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User currently offlineThepilot From Canada, joined Jan 2010, 5 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6457 times:

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 16):

The 744 is currently the fastest-cruising widebody.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that honor belongs to the Lockheed L-1011. Cruising speed of mach .90, compared to mach .85/.86 on the B744.



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User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6447 times:

Quoting Thepilot (Reply 18):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that honor belongs to the Lockheed L-1011. Cruising speed of mach .90, compared to mach .85/.86 on the B744.

IIRC the 1011 will cruise at .84 and as low as .80 for LRC. The 744 will cruise between .855-.86.


User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2445 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6289 times:

Quoting Fox1211 (Thread starter):
Yes I was wondering if someone could tell me what is the longest non stop flight for commercial travel in 747.

Do you define "long" in terms of distance taveled (miles) or duration of flight time (hours)? You are getting both types of answers. One measure of long is impacted by winds aloft and the other isn't.



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User currently offlineAJ From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 2395 posts, RR: 24
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6259 times:

Still standing as the longest flight in my logbook is LAX-MEL in 'standard' Boeing 747-438 VH-OJQ: 15 hours and 40 minutes. The next after that was same aircraft same route in 15 hours 14 minutes.

User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8455 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 6214 times:
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Quoting AlexEU (Reply 13):
Johannesburg-Dulles, which is a nonstop flight?

The other way round maybe.



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User currently offline747fan From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1187 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 6213 times:

Quoting Andz (Reply 22):
The other way round maybe.

 checkmark  Not only do you have to take into account the headwinds, but a fully loaded 744 (or A340 for that matter) can't make it out of JNB due to its high elevation. However, I believe the 77L be able to fly out of there with a relatively full load of pax/fuel as DL is likely planning on using it to fly ATL-JNB-ATL nonstop, correct me if I'm wrong.


User currently offlineN710PS From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6194 times:

Anything departing from JFK after 5 PM if you count it as time spent on your ass in a seat maybe?  duck 


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User currently offlineBCNGRO From Andorra, joined Oct 2004, 584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6123 times:

What about Europe-South America?

FRA-EZE is 6,200nm



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25 EZYAirbus : I once flew SIN-LHR with BA on a 747-400 once and due to really really strong headwinds it was almost 16 hours and the captain announced that we might
26 747fan : That's definitely one of the longer 747 pax flights, longer than LHR-SIN (a shade under 6000 nm.)which is the longest nonstop route from LHR. But the
27 Planeguy727 : For the sake of a flashback - when PA was operating SYD-LAX with the 747SP it was the longest at the time. I did this flight in Aug 1984. Long but enj
28 InbarD : HKG-LHR Approximately 13 hours long on a Qantas 747-400ER
29 Post contains images LAXspotter : Just wondering, couldnt anet "publish" a list of all these superlatives, because I used to start these threads too, but I realized we all get conflict
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