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Poll: Seat Reclining  
User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2249 times:

Two questions

A. Do good manners require that ask PERMISSION before reclining your seat?

B. People should/should not be allowed to recline to sleep unless it is dark out?

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User currently offlineAlexPorter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2247 times:

A. Not necessarily - permission shouldn't be required, but due to the risk of laptop damage, etc, certain etiquette exists:
- Recline slowly - no sudden jerks back!
- During food services it is best to be fully upright so that people behind can access their food easily

B. Well, it really depends more on the nature of the flight - for instance, on some late transatlantic summertime red-eye flights (such as 10 PM departures, etc), the sun comes up halfway through the flight. People should still be allowed to sleep in full recline.

My personal approach to reclining, based mostly on the time at the destination but also partially on the time at origin, depending on the nature of the flight:
- All mornings, weekday afternoons: Fully upright
- Weekday evenings, weekend afternoons and evenings: Partial recline, like a "relax" mode
- Overnights: Full recline is fine.

Finally, don't recline when you aren't allowed to! (Take offs and landings).

I know some people have the approach that no one should ever recline ever unless its a red-eye flight, but I think that partially reclining is just fine at certain times of day, and even on non-red-eye late evening flights (i.e. 10 PM to 2 AM flights, etc) people should be allowed to fully recline and try to sleep.


User currently offlineElite From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2006, 2878 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2230 times:

I always put my seat upright during mealtimes, and occasionally the flight attendant will ask you to if you don't.

User currently offlineNG1Fan From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 446 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2224 times:

I normally check behind me - if the seat is vacant, I recline with impunity.

When it is oppupied, I recline slowly. I ask if it OK to recline, esp when elderly/fat/tall pax is behind me.

During meal times, I always keep my seat up and will make sure the person behind me has finished his/her meal before I ask about reclining.

Once I had this old lady banging on the back of my seat on a Spanair domestic flight. This was my third flight for the day, I was tired since I had some lovely Rioja during my lengthy MAD stopover and just wanted to sleep. I was tempted to comply but when she let fly with (what I understood to be) oscenities and started banging my seat, I kept it back and eventually, she gave up.

As for not reclining just because it is daytime - I disagree. For you it might be daytime, but my body clock could be saying it was 1.34am and get me some sleep!

Don't want someone reclining in your face? Choose the bulkhead seat, or the emergency exits. Or pay for J/F where you pay so much you can choose when/when not to recline!

NG1Fan


User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2214 times:



Quoting IAirAllie (Thread starter):
A. Do good manners require that ask PERMISSION before reclining your seat?

One should ask but so far after +150 flights no one has ever asked me. I always check whether the passenger behind me has something on his table but sometimes when I am too tired I just recline regard less what the passenger behinds thinks of it.

Quoting IAirAllie (Thread starter):
B. People should/should not be allowed to recline to sleep unless it is dark out?

There are 12h daylight flights so my vote is No here. You can´t restrict reclining if you offer it.  Smile


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9828 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2196 times:



Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 1):
All mornings, weekday afternoons: Fully upright

With the number of morning flights that leave at 6am, reclining is fine in my book.



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2178 times:

A. Require, no. But good manners suggests that you are thoughtful of those behind you.

B. Recline using rule in A above!

If you are in front of me, recline your seat to the point my regular sized laptop monitor gets crushed, I will see to it that you will not be sleeping without a constant tap on your seatback after I've already moved your seatback up some!!! ?

[Edited 2007-12-09 19:27:02]


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User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 9294 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2169 times:



Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 6):

I am surprised about the questions about reclining seats, I have never really given it any thought, and maybe luckily I have never aggravated anyone behind me. I do not fly that often and I was not aware the seating was that close. I have flown most of my recent trips in economy plus and maybe that is the reason. I just thought that the seat did not recline that much anyway so it would not affect anyone. I guess I learned the easy way on this forum.



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User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2849 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2159 times:



Quoting IAirAllie (Thread starter):
A. Do good manners require that ask PERMISSION before reclining your seat?

When flying internationally I normally don't ask.

What if the person sitting behind you says NO.. i prefer you don't recline..... what do you do?

Quoting IAirAllie (Thread starter):
B. People should/should not be allowed to recline to sleep unless it is dark out?

Unless it's meal time and you're planning on eating, i think you should be able to recline anytime you want (not during t/o and landings...etc)


User currently offlineBok269 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 2104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2134 times:

I only recline after verifying that I am not going to be crushing someone's legs and that there is nothing on their tray. I recline slowly and only as much as I need.


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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5527 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2132 times:



Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 1):
A. Not necessarily - permission shouldn't be required, but due to the risk of laptop damage, etc, certain etiquette exists:
- Recline slowly - no sudden jerks back!
- During food services it is best to be fully upright so that people behind can access their food easily

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B. You should be able to recline anytime of day to sleep/nap/catch a few winks.



You can't cure stupid
User currently offlineLongitude From Russia, joined Nov 2007, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2101 times:

Normally I recline my seat but prefer to check if it is all right with the person behind. Once during the flight from AMS to KUL I reclined my seat and tried to get some sleep (it was a night flight) until the person behind me said "excuse me, I cannot sit like this for the whole night" and I realised that the person was quite big and simply stuck between my seat and his seat. I was deeply surprised he hadn't said anything for such a long time. After this, every time I reclined my seat on that flight I looked at him and made sure he was signalising me that everything was all right making the "o" letter with his fingers Smile

User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2098 times:

If I do recline, it'll always be slowly and carefully - I've had my knees hurt too many times to act like an idiot myself...

However, I don't see any time-limitations: if the person in front of me wants to recline - or if I want to - fine with me. If space gets too crowded for me, I'll occasionally ask the person sitting in front of me if they could put their seat a bit more upright (something like half-reclined), which usually is OK for most people.

Having said all that, I'll usually not recline my seat unless it's an overnight flight - most airline seats are far too "reclined" in their upright position these days anyhow, at least for my taste.



Smile - it confuses people!
User currently offlineKmh1956 From Bermuda, joined Jun 2005, 3324 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2089 times:

Since I am small, and have the ability to sleep ANYWHERE, I never recline. However, I flew once with a broken foot in a walking cast and needed the little bit of extra space that reclining afforded me so I did recline the seat a bit. I didn't recline a lot, so didn't feel it necessary to ask first.


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User currently offlineStarGuy From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2081 times:

As a passenger I always recline regardless of who is or isn't sitting in the seat behind me. The only time I bring my seat upright is during take-off, landing and the meal service. The recline is fitted so that people can use it. I don't understand what the problem is. I understand that doing it slowly will save the knees or the laptop of the person behind, but this is the only allowance I give.

As a crew member, I will never ask a passenger to bring their seat upright unless it is for take-off landing or the meal service. If a passenger feels their space is being invaded, I will ask them to recline their seat too. I have witnessed passengers having an argument over this and banging on the back of seats. It's completely unreasonable to to suggest that someone shouldn't be allowed to use the recline function where it is fitted.

If you need more space, pay for exit rows or upgrade, simple as that.


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