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Least Painful Way From SFO To DXB  
User currently offlineJawed From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 482 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7059 times:

I will be booking a flight from SFO to DXB, but unfortunately I can't get business or first class. Given that I will be sitting in cattle class, what is the least painful way to travel from SFO to DXB? Any particular connecting airports that are known to be smooth? Any specific airlines and aircraft I should look for? For example, is a 747-400 coach seat far more comfortable or provides more legroom than a 777? I really don't know. Or are some common connections (like Frankfurt or London) plagued by more delays and more difficult plane transfers than other airports? Available connections range anywhere from Paris and London to New York and Frankfurt. On the return flight from DXB to SFO there are also options to fly east (connect in Hong Kong) or west, with comparable flight times but probably under different circumstances overall. Thank you for any tips!

[Edited 2008-01-03 22:17:05]

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User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3290 posts, RR: 45
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7045 times:

Might try IAH...

IAH isn't bad. Connecting CO to EK won't be too much trouble.

Cheers,
Cameron

[Edited 2008-01-03 22:18:35]

User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3094 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7005 times:



Quoting Jawed (Thread starter):
Any particular connecting airports that are known to be smooth?

I'd connect through AMS given the choice of European hubs. MUC would also be a good choice. Avoid LHR, CDG, and FRA (in that order) at all costs. I'd also opt to connect in Europe rather than the US, just to break up the trip a bit more, and so that you can clear customs in SFO rather than in a hub somewhere in the Eastern US.

I guess that leaves KL as your choice. Their service is alright, nothing special. If you could somehow get to AMS on NW, they have 32" pitch in their A330s.


User currently offlineIAD787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 502 posts, RR: 44
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6999 times:

I did BOS to DXB and that wasn't that fun on BA. I flew a 777 which went well, but I'll tell ya, four 7 hr legs is rough. I would advise a short leg then a long one. IAH is a really good bet actually. Is EK codesharing with CO on that route or are you going to have to get your baggage at IAH then recheck it to DXB? If so, stick with a single carrier. BA is a good bet on that route and it's better than any of the US majors. Delta would be your only option through ATL. The good news is that you do have plenty options.

Good luck! I also recommend Kayak.com to give you the most choices.



Former FlightBlogger turned Wall Street Journal Aerospace Beat Reporter
User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7003 times:



Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 1):

He beat me to it, I would suggest CO to EK through IAH also, EK has a GREAT product, and is quite comfortable (personal experience).

CO might be offering Codeshare also.


User currently offlineBrenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1634 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6995 times:

What about flying via Asia? CX and SQ would both offer the route (CX possibly being preferable, since it'll be a 1-stop).


I'm tired of the A vs. B sniping. Neither make planes that shed wings randomly!
User currently offlineZippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6995 times:

You've probably heard this before but, avoid the New York and Boston areas! If you can do that, then, you can cut down on the pain factor.


I'm Zippyjet & I approve of this message!
User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8492 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6974 times:

What about Virgin America to JFK, then EK to DXB. Both nice airlines with PTV, even in economy. EK's economy product is very good.


Or, one of the Euro carriers would give you 1-carrier reliability. AF, KLM or LH. BA uses LHR which most people do not like (plus aren't taxes higher...)


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6974 times:

You could do as suggested, SFO-IAH and then connect to EK's nonstop IAH-DXB flight. You can get to try a brandnew 77L at the same time if you like.

User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4511 posts, RR: 53
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6974 times:

Forget flying through Asia. I would also advocate connecting through MUC or AMS if you want to go through Europe. Otherwise go for EK through IAH or JFK, the entertainment on Emirates will keep you occupied for hours.


PARIS, FRANCE...THE BEIRUT OF EUROPE.
User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6938 times:



Quoting Jawed (Thread starter):
Given that I will be sitting in cattle class, what is the least painful way to travel from SFO to DXB?

Have you considered to make a stop-over enroute ?

Quoting Jawed (Thread starter):
On the return flight from DXB to SFO there are also options to fly east (connect in Hong Kong) or west, with comparable flight times but probably under different circumstances overall.

Overall, flying west (= follwing the sun) is less stressful on the body.
Combine that with one short stopover and you might get a itinerary that makes the most out of the necessary travel, as you can try to follow the rule:
Depart in the morning, follow the sun throughout your flight, arrive in the early afternoon (depending on sector length, especially when flying trans-pacific this might be a problem) and sleep in a hotel during the night.
A basic itinerary could be like:

SFO - HKG/INC/NRT/??? - DXB - AMS/FRA/MUC/LHR - SFO

Look if available RTW ( Round the world)-fares allow to make only 3 stops with 2 of them being 1 night only, but it should be possible.
-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineHeyheyyu From Vatican City, joined May 2006, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6869 times:

How about SFO - ZRH - DXB?

User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1985 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6849 times:

Well as far as airplanes to look out for I would say the 763's offer the most comfortable seating arrangement at 2-3-2. The only issue being is if you can find a 763 (or 762 for that matter) with AVOD in Y. AC offers it on some of their planes, though its getting better. I would personally avoid EK 777s as they have a 3-4-3 layout which to me would be REALLY cramped, especially on a longer flight.


Keep the shinny side up!
User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6847 times:



Quoting Heyheyyu (Reply 11):
How about SFO - ZRH

Who is flying nonstop between SFO and ZRH ?
No point to add a U.S.-transcon before the transatlantic sector like SFO - IAD - ZRH, IMO ...
-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3094 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6831 times:

I would avoid EK in coach, especially if the equipment is a 777 - EK has 10-abreast seating while most carriers are only 9-abreast. However, they do make up for it with more legroom. So if you're tall and slender, maybe EK is a decent choice (by all means through IAH rather than JFK).

User currently offlineSwiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6691 times:

Last time I flew SFO-LHR on VS the guy next to me was connecting to a VS DXB service. Long wait at LHR though.

User currently offlineRobertmalpass From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 46 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6621 times:

My suggestion, based on personal preference alone would be VS straight through SFO - LHR - DXB. I know it's going through LHR which is a hell hole sometimes but I really like VS's Y product especially their new Y seats which are loads more comfortable than the old ones. Choosing VS would also mean two types of aircraft (B744 from SFO and A346 from LHR), both of which have VS's fab AVOD system, V-Port. The timings mean a good few hours at LHR

User currently offlineBCA2005 From India, joined Sep 2005, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6605 times:



Quoting Robertmalpass (Reply 16):
My suggestion, based on personal preference alone would be VS straight through SFO - LHR - DXB.

The timings are awful with around 9 hours in LHR eastbound and an overnight layover on the westbound.


User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5435 posts, RR: 30
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6605 times:

Try Etihad for your long leg. Flights 100/101 are direct NYC-AUH. Then it's a short hop/drive to Dubai, (though I prefer Abu Dhabi as a city). Etihad Y is much, much better in goat class than EK...no comparison.


What the...?
User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6563 times:



Quoting HT (Reply 10):
SFO - HKG/INC/NRT/??? - DXB - AMS/FRA/MUC/LHR - SFO

All on Star through some very nice airports
SQ SFO-HKG-SIN-DXB
LH DXB-MUC-SFO

All on OneWorld through two nice airports
CX SFO-HKG-DXB
BA DXB-LHR-SFO

All on Skyteam
KE SFO-ICN-DXB
AF DXB-CDG-SFO

My personal favorite would be
UA SFO-NGO
EK NGO-DXB
VS DXB-LHR-SFO

If you did it RTW, it would make one heck of a Trip Report.



Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!
User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7478 posts, RR: 17
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6417 times:

How about:

BA284 (SFO-LHR) d. 04.15 pm a. 10.30 am (744)
BA107 (LHR-DXB) d. 12.35 pm a. 11.20 pm (772)

I do not think there will be a change of terminal at LHR. There is the security of using a single airline. And the connecting times are virtually ideal.

Until the end of March both flights will operate through T4 at LHR. I think that from 27 March both flights will operate through T5 that opens for business that day. So that in itself could be an experience and a reason for routing this way.


User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6565 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6396 times:

I would look for, as others have suggested, a routing through Europe to break up the trip a bit more. However, if that's not an option, I'd go with DL via an easy connection in ATL. They offer a pretty nice Coach product on their 777's...probably more comfortable than EK's Coach layout, since it's 3x3x3 seating. Also, DL has really improved its intercontinental service as of late...PTV's, amenity kits, free adult beverage with the main meal, etc.

User currently offlineAA757200 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6328 times:



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 4):
EK has a GREAT product, and is quite comfortable (personal experience).

Couldn't be further from the truth, in coach. One of the worst longhaul coach products. Way too tight. But frankly, all your options will lack loads of space and comfort, if you are going in the back. Either way, avoid EK.


User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5174 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6318 times:



Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 21):
an easy connection in ATL

thats almost oxymoronic in my book...lol



Third Coast born, means I'm Texas raised
User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6565 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6305 times:



Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 23):
thats almost oxymoronic in my book...lol

Well it is...as long as your original flight is on time.  Wink

I love connecting through ATL terminal E. Nice place...good food selection...very spacious.


25 Post contains images Jacobin777 : ..flying over the Pacific would add quite a number of extra miles (and time) to the trip... Since I've flown this route a number of times (Bay Area-D
26 SailorOrion : Considering that you should avoid (as mentioned above) LHR and CDG as transfer points, and assuming that you don't want excessive travel time, there a
27 ThrottleHold : Try Aer Lingus SFO-DUB-DXB.
28 JoeCanuck : You really must consider Etihad. Their y product is as almost as good as Singapore, and that's saying a lot. SFO-NYC-AUH. AUH is almost half way betwe
29 Post contains images BoeingFever777 : He is trying to avoid pain! IE: JFK, LHR, CDG, FRA... I like how the poster clearly states "what is the least painful way to travel from SFO to DXB?"
30 Jawed : Thanks for the tips! A lot of people are suggesting IAH as the transfer point. What is so unique about that airport? Thanks.
31 UN_B732 : Nothing really, just an efficient, uncongested hub. IAH is a bit out of the way compared to say, LHR, but you'd spend more time on EK with excellent e
32 HT : Is this for "connecting" or also for flying out of IAH ? Having read some other threads I got the impression that check-in with CO in Eco can be a le
33 Ag92 : Or you could do SFO - LAX - SIN - DXB with the LAX - SIN in the Airbus 345 and the Y+ seats if you are allowed to travel in that class. The SIN - DXB
34 BA319-131 : - Really? If so EK really suck as EY is not that great. - You jest, you cannot compare the two carriers, SQ are miles ahead. I've had 4 EY flights, L
35 AirTranTUS : If it were me, I would go with either: SFO-IAH-DXB on CO/EK SFO-ATL-DXB all on DL SFO-AMS-DXB on KL I would avoid connecting in any other European air
36 Longhornmaniac : IAH rarely succumbs to the massive delays that plague other transfer points like JFK/ATL/LHR etc... About the worst thing you'll find at IAH is a spo
37 Viscount724 : Sorry, that's not correct. BA flights SFO-LHR (and LAX-LHR) currently use T1 at LHR, not T4, so if you're travelling before they move to T5 on March
38 VV701 : Thanks for the correction. Having read the other replies I would not touch BA with a change at LHR from T1 to T4. But if travelling after 27 March th
39 BoeingFever777 : Intl. Terminal is clean and nice, lots of shops and places to eat. Not congested or to many delays. Cam... Come on man... Central Texas Weather is li
40 JoeCanuck : That's the wacky thing about opinions; we're all allowed to have them and they're allowed to be different. I've had 4 flights on EY and they've been
41 Tennis69 : SFO-ATL-DXB, go DL all the way.
42 Baguy : If you end up there, I would fly to KIX instead, It is really spacious and should be a bit quieter than NRT. (I think UA fly to SFO from there, the o
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