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What Business Class Is Best?  
User currently offlineBa777pilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 49 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2587 times:

i am planning a trip from LAX or SFO to CMN but to get there i must go through LHR, CDG, AMS, DUB, FRA, and MXP.

I want to go Business class but i dont know what carrier has the best product.
I have read much about BA and VS but im not sure who is the best from my options.


My options are:

Alitalia
American Airlines
British Airways
Virgin Atlantic
Air New Zealand
United Airlines
Continental
Air France
Air Lingus
Iberia

Anyone have some advice on who i should go with?
This will be my first time on Business Class so i want it to be Good.


ba777,
THANKS MUCH!


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User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 2916 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2532 times:
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Quoting Ba777pilot (Thread starter):
i am planning a trip from LAX or SFO to CMN but to get there i must go through LHR, CDG, AMS, DUB, FRA, and MXP.

I would suggest that you go with BA through LHR.


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User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3008 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2530 times:
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Well British,Virgin,and Air New Zealand are great.
AA,AF,CO are good.
UA if you get the new C/ B is also very good
The rest i don't think are that good.
My  twocents 

User currently offlineN104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 889 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2500 times:

United New Business Class


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User currently offlineGarethW From New Zealand, joined Apr 2006, 308 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2483 times:

If it were me, I would go BA, VS or NZ. I have read ordinary reports about AF recently and don't have experience of the US carriers in J.

NZ's new Business Premier product is fantastic and BA & VS will be nice and British and proper!!

GW


How good is it?
User currently offlineDLPhoenix From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 412 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2474 times:

Since you are starting at the west coast:
- Take an airline that flies west coast to Europe. Otherwise part of the flight is in domestic first which is much less than international business class.
- The same applies to the Europe->CMN segment.

This would limit your choices to:
BA/VS Via LHR.
AF Via CDG.

Avoid AZ at all costs (Fly coach on another airline).

User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3014 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2474 times:

In Business class, BA would be the winner of the group mentioned above. UA's new business class would be good too, but it's slowly being phased in and risk getting the old (and very inferior) product.

LHR sucks, but if you're going after March then you should be in terminal 5 which should be much better. Of all the hubs you mention, AMS is the easiest but KL's business product is just average (certainly not bad, better than AA, EI, IB, AZ and about on par with AF and CO).

User currently offlineGenius12 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 188 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2391 times:

I'd always go with BA. The chances are you'll be on a B747-400 with BA on your route, so you will experience the Next Generation Club World seat (as all 744s have been refitted now).

You will also fly from LHR T5, making everything (hopefully) much smoother than it is now at T4. The new premium Galleries lounges look set to be quite nice.

The other option I would consider is Virgin, as then you get the added benefit of drive through limo check in (if you purchase their top business class fares) in the newly refurbished LHR T3.

Hope you enjoy your first business class experience.


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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 6798 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

Quoting Ba777pilot (Thread starter):
CMN

Is that Casablanca ??

Quoting Ba777pilot (Thread starter):
FRA



Quoting Ba777pilot (Thread starter):
Alitalia
American Airlines
British Airways
Virgin Atlantic
Air New Zealand
United Airlines
Continental
Air France
Air Lingus
Iberia

Did you forget LH because you mentioned FRA as a possible connecting airport ? Although not being comparable with SQ or others LH is know to have a very good business class, too.
BA and VS are both great airlines and also are know to have a very good business class I would avoid LHR. It is one of the worst airports you can think off same goes for CDG as it was recently voted one of the worst airports worldwide.
Do you have a chance to fly with LH over MUC as FRA is also a nightmare (but not as bad as CDG or LHR).I don´t know if you have the chance to fly with LX or OS but they have also one of the best business class products.

[Edited 2008-01-14 05:14:38]


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User currently offlineA380US From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2377 times:



Quoting Ba777pilot (Thread starter):

Alitalia
American Airlines
British Airways
Virgin Atlantic
Air New Zealand
United Airlines
Continental
Air France
Air Lingus
Iberia

I would saya either ANZ or VS


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User currently offlineBa777pilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2298 times:



Quoting Columba (Reply 8):
Did you forget LH because you mentioned FRA as a possible connecting airport ? Although not being comparable with SQ or others LH is know to have a very good business class, too.
BA and VS are both great airlines and also are know to have a very good business class I would avoid LHR. It is one of the worst airports you can think off same goes for CDG as it was recently voted one of the worst airports worldwide.
Do you have a chance to fly with LH over AND OLD: Munich - Riem (MUC / EDDM) (closed), Germany">MUC as FRA is also a nightmare (but not as bad as CDG or LHR).I don´t know if you have the chance to fly with LX or OS but they have also one of the best business class products.

YES I DO HAVE THE OPTION OF GOING THROUGH MUN BUT LH PRICE FOR THE TRIP IS $13,575 WHICH I THINK IS WAY TO MUCH AS TO WHAT BA, VS, ANZ, AND IB ARE PUTTING UP.


And if i may ask, why are all these aiports to be nightmares?
Just out of curiosity.

Thanks much,
Ba777


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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 5672 posts, RR: 40
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2264 times:

There's a TR about a person flying AF business... They had no business meals left and he was given used cutlery. What does that say about an airline?

Air France AF 994: 10/AUG/07: CDG-JNB: J Cabin (by Abrelosojos Nov 20 2007 in Trip Reports)

I do not believe all flights would be like this... But it would be horrible experiencing it, especially paying to fly Business too.

[Edited 2008-01-17 16:34:26]


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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 6798 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2236 times:



Quoting Ba777pilot (Reply 10):
And if i may ask, why are all these aiports to be nightmares?
Just out of curiosity.

LHR is a nightmare because of the long security checkes and the long way to connect to the terminals also it is very crowded, long lines etc.....
I flew twice over LHR last year and both times my luggage did not arrive with me in TXL. I would avoid to connect through LHR if you don´t have to.
CDG was recently voted one of the worst airports worldwide, I will try to find the article with all the reasons why.
FRA is always under construction and has long ways, too. MUC is very convient to connect as it is a very modern airport.
AMS is okay, but the security check when you come from the international terminal to the domestic terminal is horrible, They have a "star treck like" tube in which you have to stand with your arms up until you are being scanned for weapons etc....if there is a long line this procedure takes forever.


It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
User currently offlineChris78cpr From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2813 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2235 times:

Go VS Upper Class. Good seat, good service, great lounge at LHR and the female flight attendant's are generally hot as hell!

Chris


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User currently offlineElite From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2006, 2760 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2221 times:



Quoting Chris78cpr (Reply 13):
the female flight attendant's are generally hot as hell!

hahaha thanks for making my day :P But that's an important factor....  Wink

I would go for VS upper class too, seems like the best out of the bunch.

User currently onlineB747forever From United States of America, joined May 2007, 16574 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2210 times:

I would go for sure with BA!!!


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User currently offlineHighpeaklad From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2048 times:

When are you going as BA flights to CMN are operated by GB airways and will not be operating after March when its sold to Easyjet.


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User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7023 posts, RR: 93
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2033 times:
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I just used UA on SFO-NRT in 777 on a C fare. Nothing but praise for UA this time.  twocents 

User currently offlinePlunaCRJ From Uruguay, joined Nov 2007, 573 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2007 times:



Quoting Columba (Reply 12):
FRA is always under construction

True. Each time I go to FRA it seems the whole place is under renovation (never ending) or whatever. Will they ever finnish?

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