SK601 From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 975 posts, RR: 4 Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2752 times:
Quoting EK77W (Thread starter): Do the 752's that NW will use on the AMS-EWR route have PTV's in coach?
Currently the AMS-EWR is operated with NW A330-300 with PTV/AVOD.
From AMS the B757-200 is currently used on BOS, DTW and BDL. The B757-200 WBC passengers will get a digi player. No PTV in y-class. The seatpitch in y-class is very nice/generous on the B757.
Azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3556 posts, RR: 30 Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2744 times:
No PTVs in Y class, but you will have LCD video monitors spaced throughout the cabin. You will also have a very roomy Y class with increased pitch. There are only 144 Y class seats, with about 34 inches of pitch. If you must have a PTV, go with the 330s via BOS/DTW or fly KLM via JFK. Haven't flown BA in Y over the pond, so I can't compare. I would guess BA might have the edge, though NWAs Atlantic Y class product is quite good. It depends on your priorities.
Right now EWR-AMS is one daily 330. IN the spring it switches to TWO 752s daily to offer more options for flight times.
EK77W From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 96 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2651 times:
Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 2): Haven't flown BA in Y over the pond, so I can't compare. I would guess BA might have the edge, though NWAs Atlantic Y class product is quite good. It depends on your priorities.
Right now EWR-AMS is one daily 330. IN the spring it switches to TWO 752s daily to offer more options for flight times.
Quoting SK601 (Reply 1): The seatpitch in y-class is very nice/generous on the B757
Thanks for the help so quickly!
I will be flying the second week of April so it will be the 752's. The reason that I was asking is that I have the option of flying from EDI to NYC with either BA via LHR :| or KL/NW via AMS. Both are roughly the same price so it's just the matter of choosing.
Azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3556 posts, RR: 30 Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2601 times:
Strictly based on transiting - I would fly NWA via AMS. Again, it all depends on your priorities. If you want a seamless, hassle free, ontime with your bags, good value for your money trip - go with NWA. IF your priorities are for PTVs, hot FAs in classy uniforms, widebody equipment and the airliners.net prestige of flying anyone but NWA... go with BA.
EK77W From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 96 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2546 times:
Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 5): Strictly based on transiting - I would fly NWA via AMS. Again, it all depends on your priorities. If you want a seamless, hassle free, ontime with your bags, good value for your money trip - go with NWA. IF your priorities are for PTVs, hot FAs in classy uniforms, widebody equipment and the airliners.net prestige of flying anyone but NWA... go with BA.
Thanks. The logical choice seems to be via AMS, but I prefer the service of BA. I also want to experience the new Terminal 5.
UN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4286 posts, RR: 5 Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2213 times:
Yep. The DUS-DTW 757 also has more legroom, but no PTVs. This was due to weight concerns.
Albird87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2078 times:
Quoting EK77W (Reply 4): I will be flying the second week of April so it will be the 752's. The reason that I was asking is that I have the option of flying from EDI to NYC with either BA via LHR :| or KL/NW via AMS. Both are roughly the same price so it's just the matter of choosing.
Why not just fly CO straight into EWR or DL into JFK from EDI? Both tho dont have PTVs in Y (unless its a new DL 757 with PTVs).
BA flights from LHR to JFK on 744s in Y all have AVOD PTVs and i have to say the service in the back on BA is very good with the staff normally coming around every hour with a cup of water or juice and the new AVOD is great (as long as it works!- they had to reset ours 20 mins into the flight but after that it worked fine!)
Should point out that one of the LHR-JFK flights by BA is done by the 777 which has PTVs but no AVOD (unless it is one of the very few that have the new CW).
Jano From Slovakia, joined Jan 2004, 814 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2067 times:
Quoting Rlwynn (Reply 9): Do they at least have free alcohol?
They do, plenty of it. Sometimes they even give out two small bottles of bourbon or whiskey. It's a very nice ride.
I probably crossed Atlantic about 50 times on NWA jets (DC10s, A330 and 1x B752) and would not hesitate to take the NWA B752 flight. The reason is that 34" seat pitch. I admit I'm one of those people who do not care much about IFE.
Xkorpyoh From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 813 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2027 times:
I flew DTW-DUS-DTW NW 757 and was disappointed:
- seat pitch didnt seem enough for me. Try to get exit row seat if you can for a few more inches.
- They only played 1 movie DTW-DUS.
- On the rerturn, they played the same movie as DTW-DUS because they didnt bother to load new movies in.
- Apart from the single movie, no additional entertainment of any kind (no audio channels either, but I had my ipod)
- Planes were packed and made the long trip more uncomfortable, specially with a hyper child next to me that wouldn't stay calm, except when they played the movie (spiderman 3). that is why IFE is important, to keep people calm and quite.
I like flying NW's A330 because of AVOD, that way i get entertained and ignore the indifferent service from NW's F/A. This indifferent service was more noticeable on a 757 without ptv.
JetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1613 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2018 times:
Quoting Jano (Reply 11): They do, plenty of it. Sometimes they even give out two small bottles of bourbon or whiskey. It's a very nice ride.
Now, does NW serve 20 year olds on flights that originate at AMS?
Home Airport: Capital Region International Airport (KLAN)
EK77W From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 96 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1921 times:
Quoting Albird87 (Reply 10): Why not just fly CO straight into EWR or DL into JFK from EDI? Both tho dont have PTVs in Y (unless its a new DL 757 with PTVs).
I would fly DL but they don't start until May and CO are costing more than double the price than BA via LHR.
PTV's isn't crucial (although it does help on long flights!), it's mainly the service and value for money.
TrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2099 posts, RR: 6 Reply 16, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1889 times:
Quoting Albird87 (Reply 10): BA flights from LHR to JFK on 744s in Y all have AVOD PTVs
Quoting Albird87 (Reply 10): Should point out that one of the LHR-JFK flights by BA is done by the 777 which has PTVs but no AVOD
Really? Usually this is the reverse. Was the 744 fleet recently refurbished and 772's still pending? What other airlines offer PTV's and AVOD on 744's? Since these aircraft are older, the cabins are often run down, ala UA and NW.
Quoting Lobster (Reply 14): Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 13):
Now, does NW serve 20 year olds on flights that originate at AMS?
No. Legally they can't.
My sister is 19 and she was given a bottle of wine on our AMS-MEM trip this past May. I guess some crews are more lienent on that law than others. Give it a shot and ask.
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