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Across The Pond To SEA, Return From BOS/IAD/ATL  
User currently offlineTGIF From Sweden, joined Apr 2008, 276 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 5157 times:

Greetings!

Me and my GF are currently planing our road trip in the US next summer. We have decided to fly into SEA and out of either BOS, IAD or ATL. I've been doing some searches in the forum but nothing is spot on. Not alot of the new trip reports has been written about Europe to SEA or the other way around, so I turn to my fellow a-netters for some help.

So, we need to get from Sweden (LPI, CPH or ARN) to SEA in Y. A connection is, if I've done my homework, inevitable unless we fly from CPH on SK. We give highest priority to comfort and want to arrive as rested as possible. Even though I don't mind hanging around airports spotting, my better half prefers few connections, a short trip and the longest leg last. Lower priorities are: Flying from AMS (since KL does LPI-AMS), Skyteam partners.

So what I need is your opinions on:
- seat comfort
- cabin noise
- service
- food (preferably included in ticket price)
- does the airline fly out from BOS/IAD/ATL?

Looking forward hearing what you think. All comments are welcome even if they contradict with some of my preferences (I'm no expert and thats why I turn to you).

Regards

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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 5149 times:

Natural choice would be SK from (or via) CPH. As you mentioned they fly nonstop to SEA and they also serve IAD from CPH.
If seat comfort is very important, you might want to consider to pay extra for SK's Premium Economy Class.
Goto http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/SAS...lines/SAS_Airlines_Airbus_A340.php for seating details.

Flying on a mix of A340 (to SEA) and A330 (from IAD) would mean that there is little noise involved.

I haven't flown SK longhaul in some time now, so I cannot comment on their current service levels, but on my last flight from SEA to CPH all was fine (it was only on my IAD to CPH-flight where my luggage was not loaded even though the layover was more than 2 hours ...).
Still, I think there is nothing terribly wrong in flying SK longhaul (I will fly with them to and within Norway in a week from today).
'hope this helps ...
-HT



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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 5137 times:

DL is about to launch service to ARN from ATL and also offers service from ATL to CPH. The SEA-ATL leg would be on a/c that feature DL's new transcontinental product (Which is pretty good.). The food on the SEA-ATL leg in Y is Buy On Board, but it is pretty good food for the price. Now whether DL will still offer service to these cities next year, who knows.

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23014 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 5120 times:

I think I'd be inclined to go the NW/KL route. NW's TATL product is pretty darn good, and AMS is a pretty easy place at which to connect. You'd be able to fly the return leg on either NW (BOS, and you could do the 752 TATL thing if you like) or KL (ATL/IAD).

Of course, that doesn't get you longest leg last on the way home, but it seems to meet your other criteria.



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5079 times:

ARN-CDG-SEA AF

return : BOS/ATL/IAD / AF

ARN-CDG-ARN = A318/A319/A320

CDG-SEA = A332

BOS-CDG = B744 + A343

ATL-CDG = A343 + B767 + B764 (operated by DL)

IAD-CDG = B772ER + A332 + B772ER


User currently offlineLX64A332 From Switzerland, joined Aug 2007, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5073 times:

What I would do in your case, is choose KLM. They fly out of LPI, which I persume is your home airport, and thus offer one stop connections to the USA. I know NW fly AMS-SEA, but to tell you the thruth, the service, food, cabin ambience, and IFE of KLM are MUCH better. Since KLM don't fly to SEA, you could fly to YvR, which is just a short drive away. I really think those extra couple of hours driving time, would really be worth it. On the return, you can choose any city, and fly KLM home via AMS. When you're booking, may I suggest you do a "multi-city" booking, as thatsthe best rate you can get.



Cheers,

LX64A332



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25332 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5050 times:



Quoting LX64A332 (Reply 5):
What I would do in your case, is choose KLM. They fly out of LPI, which I persume is your home airport, and thus offer one stop connections to the USA. I know NW fly AMS-SEA, but to tell you the thruth, the service, food, cabin ambience, and IFE of KLM are MUCH better. Since KLM don't fly to SEA, you could fly to YvR, which is just a short drive away. I really think those extra couple of hours driving time, would really be worth it.

I disagree. KL and NW service is very comparable and many people think NW's almost new A330s are much nicer than KL's elderly MD-11s which they operate AMS-YVR. If not mistaken only 3 of their 10 MD-11s have yet been modified with PTV's in economy class. And since KL/NW codeshare on all transatlantic routes you can easily book KL all the way to SEA even if travel is on a NW-operated flight AMS-SEA.

And since the OP wants to go to SEA, why would anyone want to make another connection in YVR, or drive for about 3 hours after a long flight (with an unpredictable delay at the Canada-U.S. border depending on time of day and day of week) if they can fly nonstop to SEA? I much prefer the 2-4-2 economy seating configuration on the A330 than the 3-3-3 on KL's MD-11s which also don't have the best reputation for reliability, with various threads mentioning frequent delays involving their MD-11s.


User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3104 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4996 times:

I'd go with SK or NW/KL. Avoid DL or US carriers if you can - the nonstop to SEA from Europe is vastly superior compared to going through the East Coast.

User currently offlineTGIF From Sweden, joined Apr 2008, 276 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 16 hours ago) and read 4981 times:



Quoting HT (Reply 1):
Natural choice would be SK from (or via) CPH. As you mentioned they fly nonstop to SEA and they also serve IAD from CPH.
If seat comfort is very important, you might want to consider to pay extra for SK's Premium Economy Class.

I've been trying to reads some TR's about SK longhaul and I'm getting rather mixed signals. I'll have to look further into that together with ticket price and travel plans to CPH. Regarding the Premium Economy, it was more then double price, 8k SEK versus 17k, for a trip I used to compare prices. Since it's the rest we're after, I could use the money I save on Y to take a extra day of, get a really nice hotel and just sleep the jet lag off. If i would have been 2k extra, then no that would have been interesting....

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 3):
I think I'd be inclined to go the NW/KL route. NW's TATL product is pretty darn good, and AMS is a pretty easy place at which to connect. You'd be able to fly the return leg on either NW (BOS, and you could do the 752 TATL thing if you like) or KL (ATL/IAD).

Of course, that doesn't get you longest leg last on the way home, but it seems to meet your other criteria.

Yea this is currently the most interesting alternative. I've read some TR's on NW intercontinental and the service seems nice. As Viscount724 said, the A330's are almost brand new and the interior seemed nice.

Quoting LX64A332 (Reply 5):



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 6):

The YVR thing did cross my mind but it was trashed for the same reasons Viscount724 mentioned. But thanks for the idea. After all I did wish for out of the box thinking.

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 4):

I friend of my flew AF to NY a while ago and was very pleased with their service. A332 into SEA, same as NW, seems nice and 744 out of BOS would be nice since I haven't been on one. I prefer te 2-4-2 cabin over the 3-4-3, but a 747 is always a 747..  Smile I'll evaluate AF together with BA, 777 + 747.

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 7):
Avoid DL or US carriers if you can - the nonstop to SEA from Europe is vastly superior compared to going through the East Coast.

 checkmark  Besides, going through JFK, ORD, DTW or MSP adds a couple of hours to the total travel time...


Thanks for the input guys and if someone's got more info or preferences, I'm all ears!


User currently offlineSeattleFlyer From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 13 hours ago) and read 4969 times:

A friend of mine use to fly SK exclusively between SEA and CPH for years. However, on a trip last June, he said that he had never felt so cramped in a plane in his life and swore to never fly SK again. Take that for what you will.

I have never enjoyed flying on NW so I can't recommend going through AMS with them. If you can get to FRA or CDG easily, you may want to check out LH or AF respectively. I usually go BA through LHR when going to/from Europe but that's because I like their CW product - Coach (World Traveller) with them isn't too bad either though - you may want to check out their World Traveller Plus, I don't think it's an enormous difference over coach.


User currently offlineTeo747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 7 hours ago) and read 4959 times:

I would certainly recommend NW's A330s as a good, comfortable way to get across the Atlantic to Seattle...I flew them from MSP-LGW and back in March and I had no complaints about the flights whatsoever other than that the trivia game on the PTV stopped working about an hour or so into each flight. The movie/TV/music selection on the PTV is quite good, food and service were decent, and the seat was comfortable with more than adequate legroom for me (I am 6'2'') even when the person in front of me reclined. It's not spectacular by any means, but for a reasonable price I think it's a very good option. My main advice, which you seem to agree with, would be to avoid a Europe-US East Coast-Seattle routing at all costs. I have done this before and will never do it again unless I absolutely have to...a direct Europe-SEA flight is much better, in my opinion.

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