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Your Greatest Fear?  
User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8968 posts, RR: 76
Posted (6 years 2 months 19 hours ago) and read 3518 times:
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The title tells the story: what is your greatest fear when flying?

I don't mean, if you are afraid of flying or feeling uncomfortable.

For me it is: fire on board of an aircraft! I think I can handle an engine failure without bigger problems, rapid decompression, electric failures, hydraulic, flap failures... Everything is not very nice, but somewhat I am able to handle it...
But fire?  covereyes  No thanks, never ever  crossfingers   pray 

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User currently offlineElite From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2006, 2793 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 19 hours ago) and read 3517 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Thread starter):
But fire?    No thanks, never ever  

Well the chances of that happening are very, very slim, and there are fire extinguishers on board.

I think the worst thing that could happen would be a hijack.


User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8968 posts, RR: 76
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 19 hours ago) and read 3515 times:
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Quoting Elite (Reply 1):
Well the chances of that happening are very, very slim, and there are fire extinguishers on board.

Yes, there are slim, but imagine there is a fire in the cargo hold? Or in the wheel well? Places you cannot really reach? or some electrical fire? There a fire extinguisher won't help you at all...

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User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4915 posts, RR: 43
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 19 hours ago) and read 3511 times:

Fire is a big one, yes.

But crews are now far more aware and proactive than they ever were. Shoot, on the plane I fly, there are at least 20 drills that start with "Initiate diversion to nearest airport". All are smoke, fire or electrical related.

It is also a common practice in the simulator as time is so vital.

While you are correct to respect fire, as aircraft and crews become more fire aware, I think it is more and more unlikely.



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8968 posts, RR: 76
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 19 hours ago) and read 3508 times:
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Quoting LongHauler (Reply 3):

Yeah, we have the same procedures for fire, smoke etc etc. Land at next suitable airport or land ASAP! but at 030W over the northatlantic with the next airport more than 1.5 hours away it can get pretty nasty... I just have to think about Swissair 111  cry 

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User currently offlineElite From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2006, 2793 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 19 hours ago) and read 3506 times:

Still, nothing worries me more than a hijack... being held hostages, killing the hostages, suicide flights etc.

Even though the chances of that is probably even slimmer than an onboard fire.


User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8968 posts, RR: 76
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 3504 times:
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Quoting Elite (Reply 5):
Still, nothing worries me more than a hijack...

Thank god I am flying cargo airplanes, the risk of hijack is pretty low here  Wink

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User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 17 hours ago) and read 3479 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 6):
Thank god I am flying cargo airplanes, the risk of hijack is pretty low here

Not to bust your bubble, but it might be easier to hijack a cargo flight than a passenger flight.



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User currently offlineDABZF From Germany, joined Mar 2004, 1200 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 14 hours ago) and read 3462 times:



Quoting Boston92 (Reply 7):
Not to bust your bubble, but it might be easier to hijack a cargo flight than a passenger flight.

... but why would you hijack a cargo plane? I believe people make a bit better hostage than brown cardboard boxes... might be wrong though.

I personally do not have any fears (especially)... I try not to think of any either.



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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 11 hours ago) and read 3432 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Thread starter):
The title tells the story: what is your greatest fear when flying?

Rather simple (= "stupid" ??) ones:
Getting stranded in a place I do not want to be (due to AOG, ATC-strike, wx, ...).
Arriving at my away-destination without my checked luggage.
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User currently offlineTrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2331 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 9 hours ago) and read 3417 times:

Excluding a hijacking, I would say an explosive decompression would be my biggest fear, particularly if it were at a low enough altitude where I would not lose consciousness. The TW 800 fuel tank explosion is always one that gives me chills. After that, a long inverted dive ala AS 261 would be painfully dreadful to endure. Having said that, I don't fear flying one bit.

Quoting DABZF (Reply 8):

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 7):
Not to bust your bubble, but it might be easier to hijack a cargo flight than a passenger flight.


... but why would you hijack a cargo plane? I believe people make a bit better hostage than brown cardboard boxes... might be wrong though.

I has happened before or attempted anyway. Are you aware of the FX DC-10 incident in 1994?



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User currently offlineDL767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 8 hours ago) and read 3413 times:

Crashing doesn't really scare me that bad, it's the time it takes to fall from 35,000 ft that horrifies me. Just sitting there waiting to dies is horrible, at least with a rapid decompression or explosion you go pretty much instantly.

The other fear of mine is getting sucked out of the aircraft, in whatever would cause that, and falling to your death, at least if you were at a high altitude you would pass out due to lack of oxygen but still...

Highjacking doesn't really bother me, it seems like now after what happened with 9/11 people wouldn't just sit around and wait to see what happens. I know i would like to confront the retards and do whatever i could (a lot easier to say than do).


User currently offlineTennis69 From Qatar, joined Apr 2007, 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 8 hours ago) and read 3411 times:
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Since the chances are very slim that any of the scenarios mentioned above will ever happen, lets talk about more realistic fears. My greatest fear is that I will be seated next to a pax who weighs in at 100+ Kg, wearing a sleeveless t-shirt, and who hasn't had a bath in a week.

User currently offlineAnalog From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 1900 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 6 hours ago) and read 3401 times:

Gas.

The reduced cabin pressure makes it rather uncomfortable.


User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4896 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 months 4 hours ago) and read 3388 times:

Hijacking
Ditching
Windshear/Microburst



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User currently offlineDABZF From Germany, joined Mar 2004, 1200 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 months 3 hours ago) and read 3385 times:



Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 10):
I has happened before or attempted anyway. Are you aware of the FX DC-10 incident in 1994?

... that was a suicide attempt by a jump seater (FX pilot), right?



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User currently offlineElite From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2006, 2793 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 months 1 hour ago) and read 3370 times:



Quoting DABZF (Reply 15):
... that was a suicide attempt by a jump seater (FX pilot), right?

Yep.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FedEx_Flight_705

If any of you have actually seen the AirCrash Investigation episode on this (available on YouTube) it is pretty scary!!


User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3326 times:
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Quite simply......to be in a plane with a unprecedented/unknown mechanical failure previously not detected, such as SR 111 or TWA 800.



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3300 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3317 times:
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Quoting Arsenal@LHR (Reply 17):
to be in a plane with a unprecedented/unknown mechanical failure previously not detected, such as SR 111 or TWA 800.

These two accidents are what triggered my huge fear of flying. I was on N93119, who crashed as TWA800, on her last complete flight, doing ATH-JFK that afternoon. I had also flown GVA-JFK earlier on the day SR111 went down, though the registration was different. I'm not afraid of dying on a plane, or anything else, but what terrifies me is the thought of death's inevitability if something like TWA800 happens. That time from FL200 to FL000 must be the more horrifying thing I could imagine, and that thought it what scares the living **** out of me.

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User currently offlineAjd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3283 times:

On a commercial flight - hijack, fire, bomb, rapid decompression. Nothing I want to experience.

On a private plane (i.e. one that i'm flying) engine fire. That's about it. Failure isn't that bad, it's less urgent than a fire anyway.


User currently offlineTupolevTu154 From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 2178 posts, RR: 28
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3280 times:

Now I think about it, there are quite a few.

Structural failure (A wing falling off or propeller blade becoming detached from the hub and spearing the fuselage)
Hydraulic failure (Similar to the JAL accident years ago)
Random dive and crash.

I know the chances of these are all extremely slim, but sometimes you can't help but think about an incident.



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User currently offlineBAe146QT From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2006, 996 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3274 times:

At the risk of being called a macho butthead, I don't fear anything when I fly.

The aircraft has been certified, the manufacturers build to tolerances that make the Apollo craft look like sieves, the engineers are some of the most highly-trained people on the planet, the pilots are too and have a vested interest in the safety of the plane, and I am in a metal cylinder hurtling several miles off the ground at a good fraction of the speed of a small-bore rifle bullet.

So if I have put myself in that position in the first place, and have already placed trust in the people responsible for my welfare during the trip, where is the point in being frightened when I'm actually up there? It's a done deal already. Usually, I read a book and pretend that the air isn't getting thin.


Footnote:

As for [strike]the new bogeyman[/strike] terrorists, there once was a time when if you sat in your seat and let them get on with it, you had a good chance of surviving with a story to tell your kids. As most of us know and are sick of hearing, "9/11 changed all that" and I'm sure that most hijackers know this too. So if they're aboard, then someone screwed up and I'm still in a metal cylinder hurtling several miles off the ground at a good fraction of the speed of a small-bore rifle bullet. I can choose to fight and possibly die, or I can choose to sit there and die anyway. I'd fight. But really - what's the likelihood?



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User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3237 times:

My fears: unexpected severe turbulence and an Arab terrorist hijacking. Both happening on the same flight would be just the end of the world for me.  Sad

User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1817 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3186 times:

What about engine-failure on rotation.

User currently offlineN6238P From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 501 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3180 times:

Icing scares the crap out of me. The stories I hear from guy that start running freight in Barons and 208's really makes me hope I can get hired by a regional as quick as possible when I get to that stage in my career.


To actively root against anybody is just low, and I hope karma comes back at you with a vengeance
25 WILCO737 : That is no big deal. As we all have seen the Thomsonfly in Manchaster which got hit by a bird while it was rotating. They climbed away without bigger
26 AlexEU : I knew that somebody is going to mention that !!! what about C172 engine failure on rotation !?
27 AerorobNZ : My biggest fear is being squashed by a lard ass passenger as they move around the cabin....
28 WILCO737 : You didn't say that But here I must admit: I would get a little more excited. But still not my greatest fear WILCO737 (MD11F)
29 Transpac787 : Don't you think most (maybe all) pax in this day and age won't remain seated in any such event, but would immediate rise to stop it?? Before 9/11, hi
30 ANITIX87 : This is a philosophy I've never understood. I shoot at JFK with someone else who won't go if it's not Boeing. What information do you POSSIBLY have t
31 Transpac787 : Quite a bit. UA, for instance, has an entire section in the A319/320 POH entitled "Anomalies". These are occurrences in flight or on the ground that
32 SandroZRH : you can't be serious?
33 StarAlliance38 : This is why airlines do backround and mental checks on employees. My biggest fear on an airplane would probably be if somebody dies in-flight. Kinda
34 Transpac787 : I am serious. I'm Boeing blood, which I readily admit. Whenever and wherever I can avoid Airbus, I make sure I do, especially overwater. I suppose we
35 Vio : I have a few fears when flying: 1. Pilot error (making sure that I understand where I'm flying and getting an overall picture of the traffic around me
36 BAe146QT : For pity's sake don't say that in Tech-Ops. The FBW was not to blame for that accident - the pilot was, and the model of aircraft would not have made
37 MEACEDAR : Guys, for some reason, I never am scared. Not from a hijack, not from a fire, not from engine failure. Simply nothing. In fact, I don't even think abo
38 Post contains links and images Vio :    ... however... when you fly for a living, it's a completely different story. The chances of something going are much higher. According to SAFETY
39 SandroZRH : thats pathetic. I root for Airbus, yet i don't ever feel less safe on any Boeing aircraft compared to any Airbus, how ignorant is that anyway
40 Vio : When did this thread turn into an A vs B? Ah, moderators???
41 FlyboyOz : I don't like to see the wings flap up and down
42 MEACEDAR : That's true. I usually fly roundtrip once or twice per month, usually on the weekends because of school.[Edited 2008-06-05 17:11:37]
43 Post contains images AF340 : For commercial: For my plane: 1. Stressed Airframe causing wings to break off (that would suck...) 2. Microburst on short-final 3. Passenger (or co-pi
44 TrijetsRMissed : There are plenty of depressed/suicidal people who have clean criminal records. Furthermore, suicidal depression often goes undiagnosed and untreated.
45 RussianJet : The prospect of a hijacking bugs me, as all it takes is for some evil people to be onboard. Seems more likely than mechanical failure of some kind. Al
46 Rockinflyer : I'd have to say severe turbulence. It just gives me that scary feeling in the pit of my stomach. I know the crew is perfectly capable of handling it,
47 AmricanShamrok : You're just biased because Boeing's a US company. Besides, correct me if I'm wrong by the way, Boeing has had more fatal accidents than Airbus.
48 Jgarrido : Microburst...the only time I remember actually being afraid is on a couple mile final into DEN in an ERJ and we dropped a couple hundred feet rather a
49 PHXmd80 : My worst fear when flying is having my CO flight cancelled, being rebooked on DL, and then, after landing in ATL, being stuck on the tarmac in a 757 f
50 Jgarrido : Landing in ATL would be my other greatest fear. Man! I hate that airport.
51 PlunaCRJ : A great thread to read just before flying. I mean, I wouldn´t like the idea of going on a trip tomorrow after reading all these fears, don´t you thi
52 Transpac787 : Nahh. The only thing that's pathetic is how easily you get personally offended over it Nothing to do with it. I'm biased because my idea of being a p
53 CanadianNorth : Well since starting AME school I don't even know any more, but probably one of the above: - Airplanes are full of flammable and toxic burning stuff -
54 Post contains images SandroZRH : I dont get personally offended at all, but its shocking to see how ignorant some people are. Somehow though i was sure you weren't being serious, and
55 Analog : Having an empty seat next to me and seeing a large-diameter person squeezing down the aisle. Would a Caucasian or South Asian terrorist be less fright
56 Transpac787 : Quite an astute response Ughh, Christ....... I was wondering when a PC response would crop up. I know that on the DC8 the spoilers weren't approved f
57 Superfly : Squeezing what? My biggest fear would be hijackers gassing the cabin with sleeping gas and trying to fly the plane to a remote landing strip on a des
58 FlyboyOz : Also...my biggest fear is pax cos they are strangers and I don't feel comfortable sitting next to them. Hahaha (joking!)
59 NQYGuy : Probably there being a rapid decompression, leaving me and my relatives falling through the air. Another one is being trapped inside a crashed plane.
60 AlexEU : Yeah, I will remember this thread when I fly next time. We should open another thread about what makes us safe when flying. At least their final dest
61 Sprout5199 : I would say having the controls reversed on the small plane I fly and not noticing it on the pre-flight. I think there has been a few aircraft that ha
62 Bartonsayswhat : My fear would be watching the gear come down on the Q400 and wondering if they're locked. Actually any failure with the wheels involved. And the LAVS.
63 UltimateDelta : I can see it now: Hijacker: 'Gimme the money or the box gets it!'
64 Sleeperseat : Exactly, i'm carrying the same fear. Especially on those night long hauls where you are forced to spend your night and nap beside the person seated n
65 Sfuk : Greatest fear.......hmmmm. For me it would have to be that oil would rise above $130 a barrel and that United start charging for checked baggage. Wait
66 SkyGirl : Really long delays away from the gate with testy pax. Especially when it comes down to passing out the crunchy oaty bars. I'm always terrified that so
67 BAe146QT : I... I... think that this, er, fear is sufficiently specific that it won't be something you have to worry about As much as I value my good dentition,
68 GST : My biggest fear? That depends on the situation. In a jetliner, probably in a decompression not getting the mask on/pumping oxygen before passing out.
69 Analog : I try to be silly and it's interpreted as trying to be PC. I was wondering when an anti-PC response would pop up.
70 BAViscount : Why?? It happened in Airport '77, why shouldn't it happen again??!
71 2H4 : Agreed, I'm surprised it took 35 and 45 replies, respectively, for these to be mentioned. They would be at or near the top of my list: - Elevator/pit
72 Elite : Same here... I think about that whenever I travel... really gets to me!
73 BAe146QT : My connection crashed when I was typing the reply, and I didn't notice that it hadn't saved all that I had typed as a draft, (which is why there's no
74 Readytotaxi : Without a doubt it has to be the person sitting next to you. You know the one, he is going to tell you his life story on this 12 hours flight and all
75 Flyboy36y : Some jerk today making some small error that, 2 years from now, left unchecked, will cause a catastrophic airframe failure resulting in my death.
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