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Best Way To Non-rev From FLL To PRG?  
User currently offlinePetteri From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 281 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5951 times:

I'm planning on going to Prague later this summer (mid to late July). I'll be leaving from FLL. I was thinking that conecting out of JFK would be my best bet. I can get there fairly easily via JetBlue. It seems that JFK has the most flights to Europe from the east coast of the US. I could just drive down to MIA, but there are only a handful of flights out on any given day. From Kennedy I can also try to grab a non-stop on CSA. Paris and Frankfort I'm guessing would be my second choices in terms of a stop-over. What are the loads like in the summer in Europe? I would be traveling mid-week. Any tips to non-revving in Europe? This will be the first International non-rev trip for me.

I would be using a ZED ticket. I can ZED on most major carriers via my benefits from Frontier.

Thanks for any tips you can provide!

Petteri


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User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3216 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5927 times:



Quoting Petteri (Thread starter):
Any tips to non-revving in Europe? This will be the first International non-rev trip for me.

Congrats on a big first!! I still remember my first international nonrev like yesterday.

Anyhow, nonrevving to Europe over the summer is actually one of the hardest markets to nonrev on, given the season. A lot of airlines will actually place nonrev embargoes on flights. I know AA currently has a buddy-pass and offline nonrev embargo on most all European routes. UA tends to have summer offline embargoes too. So, you might need to rely on the European carriers 100% for the TATL flights.

Quoting Petteri (Thread starter):
I would be using a ZED ticket. I can ZED on most major carriers via my benefits from Frontier.

I would suggest not connecting in FRA. FRA is a fantastic airport, but those flights seem to be the most hellaciously oversold and hopeless for nonrevs. I'd personally suggest LHR, AMS, CDG, in that rank-order for nonrevving over the summer. While LHR can be a nightmare, its shear number of flights means there are bound to be a few seats open back to the US. Then AMS you have something like 15x daily on NW, a ton more on KL, CO to EWR and IAH, DL to CVG and ATL, and UA to ORD and IAD.

Hope that helps.


User currently offlinePetteri From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 5921 times:

Thanks for the help! I was mostly looking at the European carriers to jump the pond. As it gets closer to departure I'll start calling to check loads. I'm really leaning toward leaving from Kennedy.

What about intra-europe travel? I'm probably going to be getting on a train at some point, but was wondering about getting from say Berlin to LHR to CDG. If by chance loads are light, will a Europan carrier check you all the way through to the US, or will you need to check in again regardless?

Thanks again!



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User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3216 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5915 times:



Quoting Petteri (Reply 2):
I'm really leaning toward leaving from Kennedy.

Probably the best choice by a long shot. You can get near anywhere in Europe from JFK.

Quoting Petteri (Reply 2):
What about intra-europe travel?

I personally have ZERO experience with it, though I am looking at doing some in the fall and winter in the lighter travel seasons.

Quoting Petteri (Reply 2):
If by chance loads are light, will a Europan carrier check you all the way through to the US, or will you need to check in again regardless?

Do you mean just check you in, or give you seat assignments??

I've looked into flying LH and BD a few times, and even listed for flights but the trip itself never worked out. Anyhow, here's how it works on them. On LH, for example, I wanted to fly SJJ-MUC-FRA. Both flights were listen for and with a single PNR number. They would check me in for both flights, however they'd only give me a seat assignment for SJJ-MUC no matter how wide-open or not the MUC-FRA leg was.

Also, nonrevs can NOT check in using codeshare agreements or flight numbers. That is, for example, you are flying BA PRG-LHR and then AA LHR-JFK. BA can only list you - as a nonrev - for their own flight and can only check you in for their own flight. All nonrevving on AA is handled by AA alone, no partner airlines can do ANY nonrev listing or check-in on other airlines.


User currently offlinePetteri From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5913 times:

I meant a seat assignment. Yea I figured as much in terms of codeshare flights. I'm planning on going directly to the ticket counters of the airlines that I plan to fly on.

I'm a bit concerned about the loads, but not too much. I'm thinking positive, all I need is just one seat on any flight from N.A. to Europe on a mid week day!  Wink



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8912 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5911 times:

Have you checked into DL's nonstop ATL-PRG flight? Plus, out of ATL, you'd have plenty of one-stop choices on DL plus the daily BA, AF, KL and LH flights.

User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7557 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5908 times:

You could do FLL-DTW-AMS-PRG


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User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3216 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5904 times:



Quoting Petteri (Reply 4):
I'm thinking positive, all I need is just one seat on any flight from N.A. to Europe on a mid week day!

Yea, you shouldn't have too much of a problem. You might have to wait until the last minute to get the seat assignment, but you still get on!!

Incidentally though, some international routes actually have the most favorable nonrev loads on the weekends. For Europe you'd be correct that mid-week is the best, but Asia and South America can tend to have the most open loads on weekends.

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 6):
You could do FLL-DTW-AMS-PRG

....... in addition to the near countless other options?!?

While I realize that's a bit of a shameless sales pitch, he still said he's using the European airlines anyway  Wink


User currently offlinePetteri From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5903 times:

Thanks for the help everyone. I'll try and snap a few pics and post a mini trip review!


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