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User currently offlineIncitatus From Brazil, joined Feb 2005, 4002 posts, RR: 13
Posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3572 times:

As we are aware, LCC does not necessarily mean low cost tickets. But I have been more and more amazed at the kinds of fares that GOL Airlines in Brazil sometimes offers.

Here is one hard to beat: I priced Maringa'-SaoPaulo (MGF-CGH) on their website as a roundtrip this coming weekend. It came back asking for R$1947, which at the current exchange rate corresponds to $1200 in US dollars. Some longer domestic trips may have roundtrip fares that top $3000 USD.

MGF-CGH is 330mi or 530km apart - similar to L.A. to San Francisco, or Washington to Hartford, or Lisbon to Madrid, or Hamburg to Munich.

I tried a few trips with similar distances on Southwest Airlines and Ryanair websites and could not come up with anything that could remotely look like these GOL fares. On Southwest, which is internally regarded at GOL as their model, I could not find any similar trip price above $400 USD. Can anybody find a self-acclaimed LCC that charges as much???

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User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6712 posts, RR: 32
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3502 times:



Quoting Incitatus (Thread starter):
Can anybody find a self-acclaimed LCC that charges as much???

Absolutely. US Airways claims to be a low-cost carrier (and even chose the stock symbol "LCC"). And yet a round-trip between CLT and DCA -- a distance of 331 miles -- will cost $1314 before taxes for a departure tomorrow and a return Saturday.


User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3487 times:

Yep, with the exception of Southwest, Ryanair, EasyJet and the like, most carriers are going to charge what they can. If they're filling up their planes and making money in this era of $120+ oil, more power to them, I guess.


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User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3917 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3417 times:



Quoting Incitatus (Thread starter):
Can anybody find a self-acclaimed LCC that charges as much???

Where are the rules written that a Low COST carrier has to be a Low Fares Carrier?. LCC only stands for the low cost bit. If they can get people to purchase these types of fares then more luck to them. Low costs and high fares + big profit. Any damn fool can be a low fares carrier, just look North to the US, they are all at it and loosing millions on a daily basis. The clever thing about a real Low Cost carrier is the yield management, where low fares are available, but subsidized by higher fares booked closer to departure.

Brian.



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User currently offlineStarAlliance38 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1445 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3388 times:

I find this a lot with SWA and US: Even though SWA claims to be cheap, US Aurways always comes up cheaper.Take my upcomgin trip to MCO: on SWA, it was 200 rt, but with US, its was only 120 rt. That's why I fly US a lot, although, I hope I'll be able to fly SWA soon.


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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7511 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3380 times:



Quoting StarAlliance38 (Reply 4):
I find this a lot with SWA and US: Even though SWA claims to be cheap, US Aurways always comes up cheaper.Take my upcomgin trip to MCO: on SWA, it was 200 rt, but with US, its was only 120 rt. That's why I fly US a lot, although, I hope I'll be able to fly SWA soon.

I have mentioned this a few times before on other threads. There are occasions when a legacy/network carrier will post a lower fare than its LCC rival; HOWEVER, if one finds out that they have to change their flight reservation, which carrier will charge you a $100 Change fee ON TOP OF whatever fare difference?

In light of many network carriers (not just US) recently nickel & diming customers ($25 for a second checked-bag ($15 for first checked bag on AA), more money for certain Coach-class seats, no complimentary snacks); how quickly will that $120 r/t fare you got move closer to $200?

I'm not necessarily saying that one might still come out with a cheaper OVERALL deal than a WN itinerary (all of my 4 PHL-PDX r/t itineraries over the years, I got better deals w/CO, DL, F9 and US than w/WN when I booked); but the playing field has recently tilted more in WN's favor than previously IMHO.

Quoting ScottB (Reply 1):
Quoting Incitatus (Thread starter):
Can anybody find a self-acclaimed LCC that charges as much???

Absolutely. US Airways claims to be a low-cost carrier (and even chose the stock symbol "LCC"). And yet a round-trip between CLT and DCA -- a distance of 331 miles -- will cost $1314 before taxes for a departure tomorrow and a return Saturday.

Similar still holds true with many fares out of PHL that have NO true-LCC (FL, F9 or WN) competition.

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 3):
Where are the rules written that a Low COST carrier has to be a Low Fares Carrier?. LCC only stands for the low cost bit.

While that pure definition is true; shortly after the HP-US merger, there were banners all over PHL's Terminal B-C stating that US Airways is the World's Largest Low Fare Airline (not a typo). So it's not just the customer that mixes up LCC with LFC (low fare carrier).

In the spirit of the thread, US probably sells the most overpriced LCC tickets (in the States) for the reasons stated above.



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User currently offlineIncitatus From Brazil, joined Feb 2005, 4002 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3364 times:



Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 3):
Where are the rules written that a Low COST carrier has to be a Low Fares Carrier?.

Did you have a chance to read my first sentence? That's exactly the first thing I said.

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 3):
LCC only stands for the low cost bit. If they can get people to purchase these types of fares then more luck to them.

LCC is a self-assigned denomination. Some self-assigned LCCs aren't really low-cost.

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 3):
The clever thing about a real Low Cost carrier is the yield management, where low fares are available, but subsidized by higher fares booked closer to departure.

Pretty much every airline uses yield management. Some non-LCC ones use it in a pretty elaborate way.


User currently offlineStarAlliance38 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1445 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3363 times:



Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 5):
); how quickly will that $120 r/t fare you got move closer to $200?

The 120 included my taxes and fees  Smile

And plus, the SWA fare at 200 still didn't include tax. I get what you are saying, but I just wanted to clear things up.



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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3356 times:



Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 5):
In the spirit of the thread, US probably sells the most overpriced LCC tickets (in the States) for the reasons stated above.

Ever priced a Business Class ticket on AirTran? For the level of service they have in that cabin, it's severely overpriced. I've found First Class fares on US Airways that were cheaper than on AirTran. The FL flight was nonstop (ATL-LAS-ATL) and the US flight had a connection in PHX. AirTran's Business Class fares on most routes in which they compete with DL flights with a First Class cabin are using less than $10 cheaper than Delta. On a short hop, that may not mean much in terms of service and amenities, but for a transcontinental flight, it's night and day. If I'm going to pay for a full fare refundable First/Business ticket, I'd better be getting my money's worth. I've only splurged on a full fare First Class ticket on time, and chose DL over FL because I was getting more for the fare (DL and FL offered the same exact fare.).

As for US Airways' fares, I've found that in the markets they compete with DL and FL out of ATL, they are pretty competitive in fares. Now I'm guessing that if it is a market where they are little to no competition, US would (like any other airline) be high to the point to render any claims of 'low fares' moot.


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