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User currently offlineBabaero From Philippines, joined Jan 2002, 461 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5792 times:

Noticed in Clark Philippines last week, an MD80 painted up in Trans Global Airways colours ( sounds like something out of an Airplane movie). Believe this is the ex Asian Spirit airframe

The planned route for this aircraft was CRK-DAC-BAH

Seems rather a long way to go in an old MD80

Believe first flight was on 3rd/ 4th Jun

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User currently offlineDebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2399 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5708 times:

well, many airlines used the MD80 on ultra-long-rage flights...

The last adventure airline was Eritrean Airlines flyinf Asmara-(fuel stop)-Rome-Francfort with MD83 operated by MAP executive of Austria.

In the past, even Swedish carriers had flown to the Caribbean from Sweden (e.g. Transwede).

BTW: any pics available?

Flights will be operated in co-operation with KANG PACIFIC: http://www.flykpa.com

[Edited 2008-06-12 02:41:33]

User currently offlineOkAY From Finland, joined Dec 2006, 652 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5669 times:

I remember AY using their MD80 fleet on their routes from Helsinki to Cairo and Mombasa, the latter one did have a stop-over though, in Luxor if my memory serves me right.

okAY


User currently offlinePyh From Finland, joined Oct 2001, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5517 times:

I remember I flew HEL-CAI in 1989 with Finnair MD-87and on that flight there was a stopover in Athens.

User currently offlineTUGMASTER From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Jul 2004, 688 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5490 times:

I was talking about this subject a couple of days ago with Cedarjet..... he seems to remember aflight BRS-GOI in the 80's by a charter airline called Paramount.....

Just to clarify...thats Bristol UK to Goa India..... a bloody long way....

rgds


User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5476 times:
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I remember the Spanair flights in the 90's (before the arrival of the Airbus A320 / A321) from LPA and TFS to HEL, ARN and other points in Scandinavia.

Time flight was about 6 hours and flights were operated with M82 and M83 equipment.

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlineBA84 From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 418 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5436 times:
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Alaska operated MD-80's from Seattle to Magadan and Khabarovsk in Siberia, via Anchorage.

BA84


User currently offlineBoeing744 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1831 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5405 times:

JetsGo(ne) used to push their MD-80's on trans-Canada routes like YYJ-YYZ. That's over 4 hours, so pretty long for an MD-80 I would think.

American also uses them on some pretty long ones, such as ORD-SEA.


User currently offlineAA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2333 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5384 times:

TW used their M83s on SJU-BOS, and SJU-STL. Also, AR operated their 80s on CCS-VVI-EZE.


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User currently offlineTwal1011727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 623 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5281 times:

American used to use MD83 on an LAX-IAD....almost 5 hrs

Thats one long flight in a Maddog....

KD


User currently offlineAA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2333 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5266 times:



Quoting Twal1011727 (Reply 9):
American used to use MD83 on an LAX-IAD....almost 5 hrs

Thats one long flight in a Maddog....

AA never had M83s until the TW purchase. And after that, they never flew LAX-IAD with an M83. So I don't know where you are getting that from?



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User currently offlinePremoBrimo From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 425 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5246 times:

AA uses an MD-80 to fly ORD-ACA which is about 5.5 hours.


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User currently offlineAA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2333 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5223 times:



Quoting PremoBrimo (Reply 11):
AA uses an MD-80 to fly ORD-ACA which is about 5.5 hours.

That sure was a long flight! They still however operate ORD-PVR.



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User currently offlineMD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 3146 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5215 times:

I remember AR used to fly it's M88s on EZE-VVI-CCS.

Now gone "non-stop" with A310s.



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8753 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5187 times:
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BWIA used to fly POS-UVF-JFK and POS-ANU-YYZ with the MD-83.

User currently offlineAA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2333 posts, RR: 26
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5172 times:



Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 13):
Now gone "non-stop" with A310s.

Yeah, I know that. I was stating they operated them in the past. And I see you are no longer from Argentina, but Portugal Gaston?



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User currently offlineAA757MIA From United States of America, joined May 2008, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5174 times:

Aerolineas Argentinas used to fly CCS-EZE in a MadDog, dont know how long is the flight, but I know it is long... I'm not sure if they stopped for fuel.

User currently offlineMD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 3146 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5159 times:



Quoting AA767400 (Reply 15):
Yeah, I know that. I was stating they operated them in the past. And I see you are no longer from Argentina, but Portugal Gaston?

Sorry man, I didn't see your post. Big grin Kinda same thing happened with AA757MIA  Silly

I'm in Argentina, just supporting my family's country in the Eurocup.  Smile



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User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4745 posts, RR: 45
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5152 times:



Quoting AA767400 (Reply 10):
AA never had M83s until the TW purchase. And after that, they never flew LAX-IAD with an M83. So I don't know where you are getting that from?

AA did have MD83s.



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User currently offlineTWAL1011727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 623 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5147 times:



Quoting AA767400 (Reply 10):
AA never had M83s

Yes they did fly between LAX-IAD w/MD80-83 back between 1989-1992 +/- 3yrs
maybe not continuosly but they did.


If you say they never had MD83s...which MD80 series had the aux tanks in them(not the MD87)
They flew them into MLB on occasion - reduced aft/mid belly size and I'm sure it was the MD83

KD


User currently offlineHikesWithEyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 816 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5109 times:

AS used to fly LAX/ANC with the MD.
Definitely at the outer range of the aircraft if it had a full load of pax/bags.



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User currently offlineMD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 3146 posts, RR: 58
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5106 times:



Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 13):
I remember AR used to fly it's M88s on EZE-VVI-CCS.

And I forgot, M83/88s were used in the EZE-LIM routes.



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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5070 times:



Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 7):
American also uses them on some pretty long ones, such as ORD-SEA.

AA use to fly IAD-LAX red eye with a MD-80 back in 1991 or so

Quoting AA767400 (Reply 10):
AA never had M83s until the TW purchase. And after that, they never flew LAX-IAD with an M83. So I don't know where you are getting that from?

AA had MD-83s back in the 1990s


User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8287 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4981 times:
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Avianca from BAQ to JFK is over 2000 miles and almost 5 hours flying time.

User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4956 times:



Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 7):
American also uses them on some pretty long ones, such as ORD-SEA.



Quoting Twal1011727 (Reply 9):
American used to use MD83 on an LAX-IAD....almost 5 hrs

I fly SJC/SFO-ORD quite extensively.....4+ hours on the maddog, but not bad at all as long as the seats are good. They are quite quiet in the front.



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25 Diesel1 : Don't recall if the flight originated in BRS. As it was Paramount's base, it may have started from there, but it certainly it operated from LGW. Stop
26 Chugach : Didn't AS have extra fuel tanks installed on some of the MD's for longer flights like ANC-LAX and ANC-Russia?
27 Timz : JP says AA got ten M83s in 1987 and a bunch more in 1991. The LAX-IAD nonstop was 1987-1990. Forgot to check whether CO had M83s for their SAN-EWR no
28 HummingBird : JM operated JFK-UVF-JFK and with their MD- 83s......During winter there have been instances where flights have exceeded 6hrs....
29 SCL767 : Same with BW UVF-JFK and BW ANU-YYZ. I believe that these flights had severe weight restrictions on them!
30 Post contains images AirframeAS : You both are correct on that. But dont forget the SEA-YYZ from the 80's (I think...) that eventually got dropped rather quickly, but it was still don
31 WesternA318 : They also did SLC-DEN-JFK...while i know its not THAT long, it sure felt like it in the very last row! Didnt AA get some from RenoAir as well?
32 AirframeAS : I think those were 87's. But don't quote me on that.
33 AA767400 : I remember that! It was routed JFK-DEN-SLC. They got M87/M90/M81s. But never knew they already had M83s prior to the TW purchase.
34 HummingBird : I can imagine the restrictions from YYZ in the winter.....The MD was never my aircraft of preference...I took every necessary step to avoid flying on
35 SCL767 : I used to love the BWIA milk-runs on the MD-83 when I was younger, fond memories. Also, my shortest commercial flight ever was on a BWIA MD-83 operat
36 ASMD11 : Wasn't that LAX-YYZ against Air Canada who put a 747 on the route? If I remember correctly there were 4 "long range" MDs that had the extra tank. I t
37 HikesWithEyes : At one point there were 8 MDs in the AS fleet with aux tanks. (939/945/946/963/964/965/968/969) While they gave the aircraft more range, they made th
38 Lima : Back in the early 1990's Aerolineas Argentinas replaced the Boeing 707 on its run to Panama with the MD88. The route was Buenos Aires-Guayaquil-Bogota
39 Post contains links and images AEramper1974 : Was this the aircraft you saw? View Large View MediumPhoto © Pertti Sipilä
40 WesternA318 : Yep, it left SLC in the morning and got into JFK perfectly timed for the evening International push. On the return, it left 3-4 hours after the major
41 AirframeAS : I thought it was the SEA-YYZ market. I remember seeing a route map that had that. I don't remember the LAX one.... Hmmm... That explains the huge bul
42 Pliersinsight : Didn't Air Aruba fly the Mad Dog from New York to AUA before they went under? That would be a bit of a hike if true.
43 ASFlyer : Actually, AS never flew SEA-YYZ, we did fly LAX-YYZ though.
44 Max Q : At Continental we flew San - Ewr (eastbound only) non stop for a short time with the -80 Longest I ever operated was Cle-Lax, at a little over 1800 mi
45 EA CO AS : The nonstop service was Anchorage to Khabarovsk (KHV), Magadan (GDX), Vladivostok (VVO), Petropavlovsk/Kamtchatsky (PKC) and Yuzhno/Sakhalisnk (UUS)
46 TrijetsRMissed : TW operated JFK-PHX in the last few years of the airlines' existence. That's a near trasncon, making it a worthy mention. The last 20 or so Mad Dogs d
47 Connies4ever : I recall a conversation with a PIC of an AC DC-9 that it could do YYZ-YVR 'no problem' if it was scheduled. Not sure about that, maybe YYZ-YYC. I know
48 AirframeAS : Not only that, nobody in YYZ knew who the heck AS was as well.
49 Chrisair : AA got a variety of planes from Reno Air, and even AirCal. I believe the OC MD80s were sent elsewhere after the purchase, but the Reno Air ones laste
50 Viscount724 : AC had been operating widebodies (including 747, L1011 and 767) for years prior to AS commencement of service. At one time AA operated DC-10s nonstop
51 Timz : Like I said, LAX-IAD started in 1987. JP says the 1987 M83s were bought new.
52 TrijetsRMissed : Ok...so? JP says this, JP says that. Like I said, the last 20 or so S80s delivered in 1991-92 were MD-83s.
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