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Longest B747 Classic Route  
User currently offlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 4378 posts, RR: 19
Posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3580 times:

Not counting the -SP which was in a class of it's own for a short time interested in longest non-stop classic routes.

I'll start with one, Cathay Pacific's Vancouver-Hong kong non stop on their RB211 classics, at the time I think no one flew further on this aircraft.


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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11615 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3579 times:

Did SAA's 'round the bulge' flights make a stop en route from South Africa to London, or did they do it non stop? It would be something in the region of 7000 miles if they did fly it non stop, but that would be pushing even the -200B's range I think.


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User currently offlineFlyboyOz From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 1985 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3568 times:

Qantas and Pan Am 747SP flew between SYD-LAX and SYD-SFO nonstop.


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User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 3193 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3566 times:



Quoting Max Q (Thread starter):
Not counting the -SP



Quoting FlyboyOz (Reply 2):
Qantas and Pan Am 747SP

@FlyboyOZ,

Didn't read the OP too well, eh??  duck 


Didn't NW used to fly JFK-NRT nonstop on 742's?? I know for certain it was operated with 744's nonstop, but before the 744 it might have been operated with a stop in ANC on the 742... I'm really not sure.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24868 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3563 times:



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 3):
Didn't NW used to fly JFK-NRT nonstop on 742's??

JL also operated later-model 742s nonstop JFK-NRT

Quoting Max Q (Thread starter):
I'll start with one, Cathay Pacific's Vancouver-Hong kong non stop on their RB211 classics, at the time I think no one flew further on this aircraft.

JFK-NRT is about 300 nm further than YVR-HKG. I remember flying CX YVR-HKG soon after they started service (that was their first route to North America, it then operated SFO-YVR-HKG) and thinking how much the 742s range had increasd since the early models which sometimes required a fuel stop at ANC even to NRT never mind HKG. Late production 742s were just about as capable as the 747SP in range but much more economic due to the larger seating capacity.


User currently offlineVhqpa From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 1456 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3533 times:



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 1):
Did SAA's 'round the bulge' flights make a stop en route from South Africa to London, or did they do it non stop? It would be something in the region of 7000 miles if they did fly it non stop, but that would be pushing even the -200B's range I think.

I read that the 74L's were purchased by SA for nonstop Round the Bulge ops Sth Africa-LON so I assume the 742's would of had to make a refueling stop enroute.


Max Q
Just curious but why have you have a identical thread in Civ Av?



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User currently offlineFly2CHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3529 times:

Air New Zealand operated non-stop AKL-LAX B747-200 flights. This is 5652 nm (YVR-HKG is 5555 nm)

User currently offlineTreeny From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3473 times:

Didnt Aerolineas Argentinas perform the first transpolar flight with their 742s from EZE to AKL?

I cant remember the year but I am fairly sure that this route could be one of the longest with the 742?

Maybe one of my fellow Anetters could provide more info on this?


User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1817 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3457 times:

Nothing beats the kangaroo route (including NZ).

As for present time, I can think of RAF charter Brize Norton-Falklands via Asuncion (but that's not scheduled).


User currently offline1stfl94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 1455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3413 times:



Quoting Vhqpa (Reply 5):
I read that the 74L's were purchased by SA for nonstop Round the Bulge ops Sth Africa-LON so I assume the 742's would of had to make a refueling stop enroute.

I believe SAA 742 flights had to stop in Ilha do Sal before 1990.

A few long range 742 routes opened up in the late 1980s between the opening of Soviet airspace and the introduction of the 747-400, A340 and MD-11 (1985-1993 approx), which meant nonstop routes from Europe to Tokyo, Beijing and Seoul


User currently offlineTreeny From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3403 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 8):
I can think of RAF charter Brize Norton-Falklands via Asuncion (but that's not scheduled).

Hi Alex

Vailid point but I dont think that the route uses a 747....I may be very much mistaken but I seem to remember seeing that the route was operated by a leased A330.

I could be wrong here so please do feel free to correct me.

Thanks


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24868 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3377 times:



Quoting 1stfl94 (Reply 9):
A few long range 742 routes opened up in the late 1980s between the opening of Soviet airspace and the introduction of the 747-400, A340 and MD-11 (1985-1993 approx), which meant nonstop routes from Europe to Tokyo, Beijing and Seoul

The Europe-Japan/Korea nonstops began a few years earlier. They didn't need the 747-400 or A340. The 742 or DC-10-30 had enough range for those routes once they could use the Trans-Siberian route.


User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5297 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3341 times:



Quoting Treeny (Reply 7):
Didnt Aerolineas Argentinas perform the first transpolar flight with their 742s from EZE to AKL?

It stopped in Southern Argentina for fuel on the EZE-AKL leg Rio Gallegos I think.


User currently offlineFlyboyOz From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 1985 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3338 times:

Oops sorry...i didn't read it the whole thread except the headline.

SAA flew between HKG and TPE to Mauritius by using a 742C.

NW flew from HKG to Seattle by using a 742 (not sure it's confirmed or not)...a little longer than YVR.



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User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5850 posts, RR: 40
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3327 times:



Quoting Max Q (Thread starter):
which was in a class of it's own for a short time interested in longest non-stop classic routes.

SQ used to use the 743 nonstop on LHR-SIN route back in the late 80's...

6765mi so its probably the longest of any classic.



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User currently offlineTreeny From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 3273 times:



Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 12):
It stopped in Southern Argentina for fuel on the EZE-AKL leg Rio Gallegos I think.

You know I think you are right thinking about it! They did make a fuel stop and always did on the route with the 742!

Of course, the A342 goes direct now!


User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3501 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3234 times:



Quoting Fly2CHC (Reply 6):
Air New Zealand operated non-stop AKL-LAX B747-200 flights. This is 5652 nm (YVR-HKG is 5555 nm)

Qantas now, is operating 747-300 AKL-LAX. I used to love seeing those NZ 747-200 take off from LAX, when fling the return on this route. That had to be the loudest 747 take off I ever herd. Also they used to use almost all of runway 25.


User currently offlineSKY1 From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 879 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3132 times:



Quoting Fly2CHC (Reply 6):
Air New Zealand operated non-stop AKL-LAX B747-200 flights

With no restrictions on their MTOW?

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 12):
It stopped in Southern Argentina for fuel on the EZE-AKL leg Rio Gallegos I think

Yes, you're right. Stopped was mandatory because the head wind.

The AKL-EZE leg was done non-stop and it took 60 or 90 less minutes in comparison with the inbound flight.



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