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What Will Happen To My Vacation If US Airways Fail  
User currently offlineEugdog From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 518 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 7812 times:

I booked a flight from London to Tampa for a two week vacation in Florida leaving July 20. It looks if US airways is in serious trouble and may collapse!

If it fails before July 20 will I be rebooked on another airline or do I just get my money back. I booked by credit card on travelocity. I am reliuctant to book hotels or car hire until I know for sure I am going!

Can anyone help me

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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12212 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 7801 times:
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Quoting Eugdog (Thread starter):
It looks if US airways is in serious trouble and may collapse!

I've not seen any evidence (apart from a.net members saying) that US Airways is in serious trouble. Just cause they will shortly be charging $2 per can of coke and $15 for checked luggage, doesn't mean they are in trouble.

Is there any real evidence that US are in trouble?


User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 7800 times:



Quoting Eugdog (Thread starter):
Can anyone help me

How do you suppose we could help you? It's your vacation, your ticket, your credit card and, most importantly, your risk.

And how did you reach the conclusion that US may collapse? I think that charging for snacks is overdoing it a bit and does suggest they are strapped for cash a bit (perhaps more so than their competitors) but, then again, most airlines in the U.S. are.


User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3695 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 7793 times:

US isn't going to liquidate in a month's time. You're fine.


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User currently offlinePhilb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 7794 times:



Quoting Eugdog (Thread starter):
If it fails before July 20 will I be rebooked on another airline or do I just get my money back. I booked by credit card on travelocity

You say you are an accountant and you don't know the answer to this? Try reading the terms and conditions of both your booking and your credit card.

As for US Airways, as with all major US carriers, the business press and other partially informed journalists are making as much of doom and gloom as they can.


User currently offlineUSFlyer MSP From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2134 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 7686 times:



Quoting Eugdog (Thread starter):
I booked a flight from London to Tampa for a two week vacation in Florida leaving July 20. It looks if US airways is in serious trouble and may collapse!

Huh?


User currently offlineTN757Flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7581 times:

All U.S. carriers are hurting badly, maybe even Southwest to a lesser degree, but this close to your date, I don't think I'd worry too much. Personally I would not book US too far out. However, they aren't going to do anything drastic during the one season of the year they should have decent cash producing traffic. The worst case scenario I could see is your domestic flights may get canned and combined with other flights between your cities, but I think you're OK.

User currently offlineWn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1054 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7493 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 1):

Is there any real evidence that US are in trouble?

Not really, but let's jump on the US Airways hate train just for the heck of it! Seems to be the popular thing to do these days...

[Edited 2008-06-16 06:12:32]


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User currently offlineWhappeh From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7474 times:

I can't believe I'm actually reading this thread. Do you think Aliens are going to come storming out of the skies too. I read that online somewhere as well.  Yeah sure


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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3397 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7368 times:



Quoting Wn676 (Reply 7):
Not really, but let's jump on the US Airways hate train just for the heck of it! Seems to be the popular thing to do these days...

Do you think it's because they dared to buy loads of Airbuses?


User currently offlineWarreng24 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7299 times:

Perhaps the OP is confused due to reports of Mesa Airlines on the verge of collaspe (according to many here on A.net and on various other media outlets). Mesa Airlines has been referenced as flying for US Airways Express.

The OP should not be concered with Mesa Airlines collasping (with repect to the OP's ticket on US Airways).

In the event that the OP is ticketed to fly a US Airways Express flight operated by Mesa Airlines, US Airways will handle the rebooking.


User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7266 times:



Quoting Warreng24 (Reply 10):
Perhaps the OP is confused due to reports of Mesa Airlines on the verge of collaspe (according to many here on A.net and on various other media outlets). Mesa Airlines has been referenced as flying for US Airways Express.

The OP should not be concered with Mesa Airlines collasping (with repect to the OP's ticket on US Airways).

In the event that the OP is ticketed to fly a US Airways Express flight operated by Mesa Airlines, US Airways will handle the rebooking.

And perhaps you're delusional?

Mesa does not fly transatlantic.


User currently offlineEugdog From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 518 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7207 times:

Some of the postings were rather testy and unpleasant.

I was thrilled that I was going on US airways when I booked the flight early this year. Normally I go on an incredibly cramped charter flight which is bloody misery for 9 hours . I have found US airways international flights to be first rate! So I was delighted that I was only paying £490 for the flight - £200 cheaper then the competition

But I read that according to Bloomberg US airways is the weakest of the major carriers and most likely to fail (they did not say that it would probably fail but more likely then others) whilst Southwest is least likely to fail.

Since the Bloomberg report oil has risen by $10-20 and may reach $150 by summer. US Airways stock lost 25% in one day last week. Also I read that US Airways needs $800 average per passenger (assuming round trip fare ) to break even (at the current oil prices)!

The latter point is particularly disturbing.


User currently offlineMu2 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 210 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7205 times:

US still has more than 2 billion of cash in the bank.

User currently offlineMeta From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 337 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7162 times:



Quoting Eugdog (Thread starter):
It looks if US airways is in serious trouble and may collapse!

This may not be a great airline, but I think you have jumped to conclusions without facts. Give us at least 1 source saying what you say. Also it takes time for a airline to liquidate. You can look at Alitalia for example. They should just die out already! Also why did you choose US Airways in the first place? How about CO, DL, NW?


User currently offlinePhilb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7082 times:



Quoting Eugdog (Reply 12):
Some of the postings were rather testy and unpleasant.

The clue might be in your question:

Quoting Eugdog (Thread starter):
If it fails before July 20 will I be rebooked on another airline or do I just get my money back. I booked by credit card on travelocity.

Why ask that specific question here? Surely you understand the terms of your contract with the travel company and your credit card company.

Quoting Eugdog (Thread starter):
It looks if US airways is in serious trouble and may collapse!

without any references/sources is not the way to go.


User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4275 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7076 times:



Quoting Meta (Reply 14):
They should just die out already! Also why did you choose US Airways in the first place? How about CO, DL, NW?

That's kind of what I thought too. For somebody who has all of this irrational fear and anxiety of the future of the airline they are traveling on, why on Earth then did you chose US Airways?

Truthfully you are pretty well protected by your credit card company should anything awful happen to US over the next month (you didn't pay cash, did you???) And it is possible some other airline would step up to the plate and allow you to fly on them over a similar route, although it would probably cost a small fee and might be standby only. You never know. But at this point, what choice do you have but to continue with your vacation plans? Anything else would definitely be acting a little prematurely - and its out of your immediate control anyway. Roll with it, my friend....  crossfingers 



None shall pass!!!!
User currently offlineWn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1054 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7059 times:



Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 9):
Do you think it's because they dared to buy loads of Airbuses?

Of course! How un-American of them, buying those plastic pieces of you-know-what! They should change their name to Traitorous Scareways!

I've also heard that Doug Parker practices witchcraft.

Quoting Eugdog (Reply 12):
Since the Bloomberg report oil has risen by $10-20 and may reach $150 by summer. Also I read that US Airways needs $800 average per passenger (assuming round trip fare ) to break even (at the current oil prices)!

And these costs are limited strictly to US? What other U.S. airline (with the exception of Southwest for the time-being) is not facing a similar scenario?



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User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7021 times:



Quoting Meta (Reply 14):
They should just die out already!

...says the 16-20 year-old who's probably never worked in the industry. You're talking about people's livelihood here. I wouldn't wish that on ANYONE, regardless of who they work for.  no 


User currently offlineSmcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7021 times:



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 11):
And perhaps you're delusional?

Mesa does not fly transatlantic.

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Doing a LHR-TPA trip on usairways.com, they have a LHR-PHL flight that leaves LHR at 1:05pm lcl and arrives at 4:10pm lcl. From PHL there is a non-stop to TPA. There are also possible itineraries through CLT and DCA.

Doing a LGW-TPA trip on usairways.com, they have a LGW-CLT flight that leaves LGW at 10:40am lcl and arrives 2:25pm lcl. You then have to make a connection in CLT to go to TPA.

Last I checked, PHL-TPA, PHL-DCA, DCA-TPA, or CLT-TPA are not transatlantic flights.



Hey Obama, keep the change! I want my dollar back.
User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3297 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6999 times:

Quoting Eugdog (Thread starter):
I booked a flight from London to Tampa for a two week vacation in Florida leaving July 20. It looks if US airways is in serious trouble and may collapse!

Based upon what? For someone who claims economics as a hobby on his profile, I hope you do a little more studying before making these types of threads in the future.

[Edited 2008-06-16 08:07:30]

User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8904 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6989 times:

US isn't going anywhere this summer - the summer season is traditionally the strongest revenue quarter for the airlines, so it's extremely unlikely they go anywhere before Labor Day. The interesting part will be after Labor Day when the business travelers start to return to the skies in a stronger force - these are often the elite frequent flyers and the effects of some of their moves to devalue Dividend Miles will be seen at this point (whether it be no effect or a big loss of high-yielding passengers is unknown right now).

User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6957 times:



Quoting Smcmac32msn (Reply 19):

Okay, whatever. The OP has already stated he was referring to mainline US Airways. And besides, the majority of the city pairs you listed aren't flown with Mesa US Express metal, most are with Piedmont, Wisconsin, and Republic.


User currently offlineSmcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6914 times:

All he said was US Airways.... you made no sense when you said Mesa doesn't fly transatlantic. All 5 itineraries from both LHR/LGW are on ALL MAINLINE aircraft all the way to TAMPA.

Go back and notice you replied to Warreng24 (Post 10) when you said what you did. It will all make sense when you reread what was said.



Hey Obama, keep the change! I want my dollar back.
User currently offlineContrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1833 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6905 times:

I flew Braniff (the original) to LGW when I was in college, and Braniff's demise was much more of a risk then than US' demise is now. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

Tampa is a beautiful city. I hope you have a great trip.



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25 Nkops : As someone who has gone through an airline bankruptcy, it annoys me to no end when someone says something like this, especially somebody who is proba
26 DocLightning : I agree. But it is not so important that airlines should be permitted to continue unsustainable business practices. If US employees would like to ret
27 Whappeh : Quotes like the one you quoted have been popping up more and more often lately, usually by minors who have no basis of reality when it comes to the w
28 Captaink : HEHE this is a funny thread. Everyone knows it is ridiculous to think that US would all of a sudden liquidate, especially around summer. But at the sa
29 Flynavy : Since you apparently know the solution to US Airways' woes, perhaps you should offer your services to them? "Seventeen year-old Airliners.net armchai
30 B777a340fan : Why do A.netters have to get on their high horse and pretend that they're better than everyone else. Okay, the claim that US may fall (which, let's fa
31 Eugdog : Why do some people get annoyed when I suggested that US Airways is in trouble. I made it very clear the source I gave for this information (Bloomberg)
32 Flynavy : Thanks for the advice. But this is a discussion forum. If you don't like what the opinions of other members are, tough luck. You too have an X to cli
33 TIA : Why are you reluctant to book hotels and rental car? Even if you don't end up going, you can still cancel your hotel and car rental reservations late
34 Nkops : I think your best bet is to not worry about it too much, and just enjoy your vacation... if it happens, deal with it then, but like several have said
35 Flight152 : You're right. I'm sure that if US went under tomorrow we would be SO concerned about your ticket to Tampa and not the 30,000+ some employees that coul
36 Flynavy : Indeed. But, it's the employee's fault for working for US Airways in the first place. At least, that's what some of the pundits here on this forum wo
37 LGAtoIND : US Airways is going NOWHERE in the next month. Don't worry.
38 B777a340fan : This is a discussion forum on the PRESENTED TOPIC. How does your selfish comments "it's your vacation, your ticket, your credit card" going to advanc
39 Flynavy : The OP is an accountant for God's sake. I'm sure he is aware of the procedures to go through if US goes under. Personally, I think this was all just
40 Cadet57 : Boy, in the 6 hours since the thread started, it went... nowhere.
41 Atrude777 : Put it this way... The OP posted a very valid concern, tell me how many of you actually saw F9 filing CH11, or ATA liquidating and whatnot, I mean tru
42 Varig_dc10 : There has been quite a bit of talk about airlines in the US going under lately. So I thought it was a reasonable question. I wonder if the Aloha or A
43 Post contains images AirCatalonia : If you feel better I have a trasncontinental ticket booked with them AUG12 so if they fail, you fail, I fail and we all fail toghether  [Edited 2008-
44 ScottB : I would not presume that an accountant in the U.K. would know much about the vagaries of the U.S. Bankruptcy Code and how credit card charges from de
45 Vincewy : Now I have UA tickets booked for Sept exam seminar for my job, I'll be in even greater risk than the rest of you guys.
46 Cloudy : People on this board like to say it's no big deal for customers when an airline goes belly up. Keep in mind that they are ONLY CONSIDERING THE VALUE O
47 CaptSkibi : As for helping you, I would suggest you book your hotel. Most hotels allow a cancellation (with no penalty) up until 6:00 PM local on the day of arri
48 Jacobin777 : While that is true, many of the tickets are booked in advance and the carrier would still probably be losing money. While UA is one of the more "weak
49 Flynavy : Liquidation occurs in a Chapter 7 bankruptcy filing, not Chapter 11. Your point being what? Okay, we'll see Skybus to that list. While we're at it, w
50 Atrude777 : I know that, I didn't say will US Airways liquidate IN a CH11 filing, I stated CH11 and then, meaning it follows next, however Eos, Maxjet, ATA, SX a
51 Meta : I have not worked for an airline, but I have worked. Also, most people working for them must not be too happy with their lives. The airline doesn't h
52 IliriBDL : ^ One FA is not "most" of the people working for them. Also Eugdog, you have nothing to worry about. Enjoy your flights and your vacation.
53 IAirAllie : Though this is a non issue because US airways will not be going under prior to the OP's trip this is what would happen if it hypothetically did. If yo
54 StarAlliance38 : I don't see why so many people bash US. In a week im taking my 25th flight with US and I've never had a problem with em. There are lots of people too
55 DeltAirlines : Under general accounting principles, the money isn't normally counted as revenue gained until the actual service (the flight) has been delivered - on
56 CALRAMPER : I do. Them and United both Please check your facts. Since 2007 airlines are no longer required to accept a failed airlines tickets, and if you recall
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