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KLM Business Class On The MD-11  
User currently offlineVarig_dc10 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 360 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 13419 times:

There is a chance that I might need to travel to Delhi in the next couple of weeks as part of my job.

Recently my employer has introduced a new policy where we get to travel business if we are travelling 8 hours or more each way and you are staying less than a week.

When I've looked at the possible routes I could take from NCL or MME, I noticed KLM fly the MD-11 from AMS to Delhi.

What is KLM business class like on the MD-11, would you recommend it?


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In economy, I always found that the food on Air France was slightly better than KLM. So I was thinking of flying out on KLM's MD-11, then coming back on an AF A340.

What is AF like for business class?

regards,
varig_dc10.

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User currently offlineHenkybaby From Netherlands, joined May 2008, 593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 13411 times:

KLM on the MD11 has old school C class, like in the picture. Way more comfy than the new Teflon slides they installed next. It is however a product out of the dark ages. If given a choice, I would choose AF in a heartbeat.

But given you are travelling from the UK you are a complete idiot if you dont fly BA instead.



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User currently offlineVarig_dc10 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 360 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 13406 times:

If money was no object, I probably would go for BA Business. But when I travel with work, you have to get three quotes. I've just done a search on Amedeus for dates in August, the prices were as follows;

KLM from £1466
EK from £1221
BA from £3733
AF from £2073

Obviously the prices may change depending on the travel date. But it is unlikely that I'll get BA cheaper than KLM.

What is EK business like?

varig_dc10


User currently offlineHenkybaby From Netherlands, joined May 2008, 593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 13399 times:

Pretty amazing if you are in their new product. Not sure about the old one, but must be better than KLM...  Smile


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User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4702 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 13390 times:



Quoting Henkybaby (Reply 1):
KLM on the MD11 has old school C class, like in the picture.

Incorrect. There are a few (PH-KCG for sure) that have the new seat (772/A332).



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User currently offlineSR 103 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1740 posts, RR: 39
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 13372 times:



Quoting Varig_dc10 (Thread starter):
What is KLM business class like on the MD-11, would you recommend it?

Absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt!
Back To My Roots: KLM World Business Class (pics)

Quoting Varig_dc10 (Thread starter):
What is AF like for business class?

Air France: The Best Place On Earth? (pics)

My personal preference is for KLM over AF and either airline over BA or VS anyday of the week! Its not all about who has the flatest beds in the sky, its about the overall package and in my opinion KLM's cabin crew outshine any other European airline!

Hope these trip reports help you out with your decision.

SR 103


User currently offlineHenkybaby From Netherlands, joined May 2008, 593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 13358 times:

Quoting SR 103 (Reply 5):
and in my opinion KLM's cabin crew outshine any other European airline!

I agree 100% with that statement. However, read the reviews of KLM seats at www.flatseats.com and you will be astonished. So notwithstanding the respect I have for the KLM cabin crew and the love for my own airline, their business class product is (objectively) below par.

If you have AF and EK as alternatives, I suggest you use the site I mentioned to get more insights.

KLM
AF
EK

Looks like you need to avoid EK like the plague, by the way...

[Edited 2008-07-18 01:46:53]

[Edited 2008-07-18 01:47:37]


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User currently offlineReadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3282 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 13329 times:



Quoting Henkybaby (Reply 6):
So notwithstanding the respect I have for the KLM cabin crew and the love for my own airline, their business class product is (objectively) below par.

I must agree. Did AMS to Aruba on MD11, 9+ hours the seat is uncomfortable and sleep never happened. For that long journey pay the extra and go with BA, you WILL thank yourself.  Wink



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User currently offlineHenkybaby From Netherlands, joined May 2008, 593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 13321 times:

I believe there actually is a C class fare with KLM for EUR 1493,- from NCL. Found it with KVS. That is dirt-cheap...

You could also do OS or AY within your price range (from LHR).



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User currently offlineVarig_dc10 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 360 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13254 times:

Thanks everyone for the information.

SR 103, those trip reports are very detailed and very useful.

Regards,
varig_dc10


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