Elwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4107 times:
I think it's obvious that US and UA are in the worst condition right now. While I don't want to see anyone lose their jobs, I think US is in the worst overall position, with UA and DL not far behind. AA is hurting, but it's managable for now, and NW and CO are almost out of the woods.
Anyway, I think the most likely is US.
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NIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4070 times:
WN Is not going anywhere, I mean WN has been the most profitable airline going. Their business model is solid and they stick to it, they have not had one fatality in over thirty years, their fleet is solid and well maintained and their fares are the best. They will continue to be at the top for a long time.
VgnAtl747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1527 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4064 times:
hmmm, if we could get rid of Southwest's incredibly low fares for a few months, it would certainly help the other majors recover some needed revenue. Obviously that won't happen, but the LCC's have definetly played a key role in the problems of the other majors. That, and the fact that the major's just don't understand cost control at all.
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12280 posts, RR: 46
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4053 times:
US true is not doing well, tho like the energizer bunny they going and going and going...... Now we never thought the sky's would be without the likes of TW and PA, so why then think that DL and UA could not be gone one day.
Bushcheney2004 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4002 times:
I would say U.S Air because they hold the least amount of important routes, which vary from other airlines, and they are one of the smallest in the U.S, which are considered legacy. I think that they would be the least noticed if they went.
UA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3940 times:
I would have to say US. They seem to have no real advantage over other carriers other than the star alliance. UA still has a lot of life, NW is fine, CO is borderline right now, AA is great, and WN as always is great.
Airbus3801 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1089 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3858 times:
I would like to see Southwest go because
a) they are hurting the Legacies
b) They are not international
c) They don't have hubs
d) They are overunning the country like SARS was in Asia
f) There are plenty of other airlines to take there place
NIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3840 times:
They are hurting the legacies? Please give me a break, the legacies hurt themselves. It isn't WN's fault they provide a great way to travel without the frills. Who needs them to fly outside the US? Lot's of carriers here are not International. There is nothing saying they have to be! I think they are fine as far as being professional.
So I say again, they will not be going anywhere. I like full service like the next guy but LCCs are good and they are here to stay!
N766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8593 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3809 times:
Which one would you like to see vanish, and why?
I wouldn't like to see any airline vanish. I have gripes against some, but that's certainly no reason to wish thousands of employees and pilots out of their jobs. I can't believe some of you want to see airlines go simply because you don't like their livery or their hub choices!
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 22392 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3809 times:
2) Which airline do I hate the most
Which really is irrelevant.
Actually, that was the question first asked. "Which one would you like to see vanish, and why?"
I would like to see NW go, so that the DC-9 replacement threads will finally end.
In all seriousness though, I'd like US to stay, because they have a huge network in the Eastern US that connects a lot of small communities. CO has a good New York network so they can stay. UA has the best service I've experienced so far, and are my favorite major, so they stay. NW is the only airline that flies to Grand Forks, so they stay. AA is a member of OneWorld, which gives you a good deal on frequent flier miles with BA, CX and the like, so they stay. That leaves DL as the odd one out. They've got bad service, which seems to carry over to AF as well. So, despite their huge transatlantic network, they get whacked. Let UA pick those routes up. Plus, with Delta gone, JetBlue can flourish without Song in the market.
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Byrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2751 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3774 times:
I'd love to see AA go.
I absolutely HATE their livery.
I hate their livery too, but wouldn't want them to go under.
WN gets my vote, as far as airlines I would love to see go away. Let the other LCC's take over.
I hate almost everything about them. Watching an airport with a major WN presence is like watching a bunch of roaches scatter around after turning on the lights.
Their livery is god-awful. Yes, that includes both the old toilet bowl brown and new "Blue Man Group" paint. Being forced to watch their planes crawling all over PHX has ruined my past love of the 737.
Their boarding procedure is horrible. I like knowing where I'm going to sit on a plane before I get on the aircraft.
I can fly WN on full fare tickets everyday of the year and still be forced to wait in checkin/security lines with all the other once-a-year travel amateurs. On HP I always breeze through checkin and security in PHX.
FA's in shorts. Sorry, but that's just trailer park.
FA's that sing.
Extremely dirty planes(inside).
Worthless frequent flyer program, unless you're the kind that vacations in BUR.
Boring fleet. Hmmm I wonder what kind of plane my next WN flight will be on?
Sorry for the rant, but I just hate WN.
(Spare me the "WN is profitable, and well-managed" talk. I've heard it before, and I still hate them.)
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: Funny, all the planes i have been on (except US) were pretty clean, even the 737-200s from Southwest. Again, i don't know why yo guys chose your airli
: all of this southwest bashing amazes me. the legacy carriers (which i am employed by) have no moral right to charge higher fares. costs at legacy carr
: Security is soo not WN's fault, you should know. HP has a security line for elites in PHX, so it is within WN's control. The thought of having to sta
: Trust me, nobody would ever want to see any airline go. For my family it was the worst time of our lives, the emotional stress was terrible.
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: Hey LHcapt, or should I say AAcapt, apparently you did not read the original question, which asks why we want to see an airline go. And I just answere
: Ushermittwoch, Lufthansa used to be good, but now they are terrible. There service sucks, their food sucks and their flight attendants are rude.
: get rid of SONG!!!! What a joke!!!! Who is DL trying to fool..???
: Because AA's livery is a disgrace to the eye. I agree 3strips, 2 As and 1 unpainted tail( ignition to blow up sequence!). Not a very good look. Air Ja
: Ryanair first, O`Leary sucks... Alitalia for second, they weren`t able to make profits for a couple of years and they won`t be able for the next decad
: Well, I really hate WN. No offense to the few WN fans. Obviously, I am a die hard Usairways fan. WN Is like a fly buzzing around your head that u just
: I would definitely have to be US Airways. And you all know the reason, because they are in the worst financial blur right now and probably won't get o
: I too would have to say USAirways. They have a relatively small route network compared to the rest of the Legacies and the small towns and cities that
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