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Best And Worst Airport Trains  
User currently offlineAllrite From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 2237 posts, RR: 5
Posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 10162 times:

Best in my opinion would have to be the Nankai Rapi:t from KIX to Osaka...





although I actually prefer the journey in the Narita Express (N'EX):



Worst: In my experience the old CityRail trains that run past Sydney Airport - I catch them every workday. But I'm sure there must be worse than that!


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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 10156 times:

In my opinion, both the best AND the worst can be found at one airport: DFW

The SkyLink train system has completely reinvented DFW. What used to be a terrifying ordeal to most Americans - making tight connections at this enormous airport - is now ridiculously easy. I'd rename the system "The NASCAR Experience", as these trains move VERY quickly. But no longer is a terminal change something to be feared - easy to use, smoothe ride (but hang on!!), and less than fifteen minutes from one corner of the airport to the other - it's a completely different experience!

The old TrAAm, however, had all the appeal of a dentist appointment - when it worked!!

In terms of exterior train service, both DCA and EWR have terrific rail connections available just outside the airport itself. Blue and Yellow line service are available right at the front door of National Airport, and the Air Train at EWR takes you to the rail station with connections available to both Amtrak and New Jersey Transit - both can take you directly into Penn Station.



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User currently offlineTennis69 From Qatar, joined Apr 2007, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 10111 times:
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I think the best is the maglev train that runs to/from PVG.



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User currently offlineSignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3024 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 10083 times:

Of the airport trains I have used:

I was impressed with Sydney's. New trains, double deck, only downside was the premium cost - which also counted for Mascot station, in an industrial area on the line!

Heathrow Express is very good - if you're loaded and need to get to the area around Paddington. Otherwise the Picadilly Line is just as quick to elsewhere in London.

CDG - RER is good for T2, but not for T1. When I was there, you then needed a shuttle bus. Now I gather the CDG-VAL is in operation, but still I don't like transferring from train to terminal shuttle. Ditto BHX.

Luton Airport Parkway I'd count as one of the least convenient, as it is a random station with a bus link to the airport... Ditto LAX.

Belfast City and Nice have normal stations a significant walk away (500m +) - not too bad but difficult with luggage.

Singapore, Hong Kong both very good.

Middling (average) rail links. Munich has a normal S-Bahn (local) station, GVA, TLV and PSA a normal railway line.

So: Best: HKG
Worst: LTN

signol

[Edited 2008-07-29 02:36:53]


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User currently offlineAllrite From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 2237 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 10074 times:



Quoting Tennis69 (Reply 2):
I think the best is the maglev train that runs to/from PVG.

I would almost agree with you, but the journey is too short! Amazingly fast and smooth though.



Quoting Signol (Reply 3):

Sydney's newest Millenium commuter trains are quite nice, but luggage storage is lacking. Likewise, we found the RER train to CDG awful for luggage and getting luggage through the metro system was a nightmare. I got trapped in the gates carrying a backpack!

I agree that the Heathrow Express and the train to HK's airport are nice. Malaysia's train to KUL is similarly comfortable.


Heathrow Express


Hong Kong Airport Express


KLIA Express

They, like the my earlier Japanese examples, are the types of trains you can relax in before or after a long flight. Comfortable seats, air conditioning etc. It's the nice thing about airports that are further away from the city centre.

I remember the train to Schipol being reasonable too.

Singapore's train to Changi is okay, but you usually need to change trains and the seats are just side mounted plastic buckets as it is a standard commuter service designed for standing.



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User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6647 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 10045 times:

I can't really claim any being the best, however, currently, the worst would have to go to IAH's Inter-Terminal Train. The Inter-Terminal Train is very old, slow, and jerky. The vehicles are also very small.

The Inter-Terminal Train is a WEDway APM system based on the old PeopleMover in Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom. The newer TerminaLink APM, on the other hand is a Bombardier CX-100 system, which are also found at many other airports such as ATL, DEN, SFO, SEA, and TPA.



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User currently offlineUltimateDelta From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2169 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 10028 times:

DTW's tram is pretty good provided your connection is within terminal A, but it is totally useless for connections from B/C.


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User currently offlineTennis69 From Qatar, joined Apr 2007, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 9997 times:
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Quoting Allrite (Reply 4):
I would almost agree with you, but the journey is too short! Amazingly fast and smooth though.

Your correct it is too short a journey. But you have to admit that 30Km in less than 7 minutes is impressive.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11708 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 9989 times:

One of the best I think is BHX; situated on part of the West coast mainline you have trains departing every few minutes to the city centre (takes 10-15 mins), and to many other UK cities. I'd actually say that it could be quicker to reach central London by flying into BHX and taking the train from International (1h 20 mins to Euston) than flying into Hell-Hole Heathrow or Gatwick.

Another easy one is HKG, but it's ludicrously expensive, so I prefer to take the bus a mile to the nearest metro station and ride in for a tenth of the price. I'm not overly keen on PVG's maglev - yes as a construction case study it's very impressive, but still, the terminus isn't exactly in the centre of the city. Once the extension is finished it will be much better. ZRH and GVA go without saying that they are fantastic, the Swiss really know how to run a railway!

Among the worst, I'll put forwards TBS; there is a modern and stunningly garish station, but zero signage from the new terminal, zero staff when you get there, and zero trains. Supposedly they run there from the monumental dump which is the main station, but I hung around for a while and didn't see a single one when it should have been there. Another is BCN, I know they've been constrained by the new BCN-MAD high speed line's construction, but come on, one small train every 15 minutes, they can do better than that! The station has two platforms, so I really don't know why they don't increase the service, it's always packed.


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User currently offlineBNEFlyer From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9929 times:
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Best that i've experienced would be Singapore's MRT. Very easy to get from Changi to the CBD and it costs less than S$2 for the 25-30 minute trip, just fantastic! The trains themselves are your normal subway type train but very quick, clean and frequent at all hours.

Worst would be the Airtrain in my very own home city of Brisbane. The train is a regualr Citytrain service from the Domestic Airport to the CBD and onto the Gold Coast that only operates every 1/2 hour during the whole day.

First service from Airport to City is 6:00AM, last is at 8:00PM. The trip to Central station is approx 24 minutes and costs AUD$12.15 if ticket is bought online or AUD$13.50 if bought at the station. To the Gold Coast it is AUD$23.67 online or AUD$26.30 at the station.

Absolutely ridiculous, no wonder nobody ever uses the stupid thing. I'd rather pay the AUD$12.00 for a bus transfer that operates from 5:40AM until 11:55PM every day.

The train in SYD is only better as the station is under the terminal and they operate very frequently and for longer during the day.


User currently offlineAllrite From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 2237 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 9900 times:



Quoting BNEFlyer (Reply 9):
First service from Airport to City is 6:00AM, last is at 8:00PM. The trip to Central station is approx 24 minutes and costs AUD$12.15 if ticket is bought online or AUD$13.50 if bought at the station. To the Gold Coast it is AUD$23.67 online or AUD$26.30 at the station.

Speaking of cost, from my stop at Padstow to Sydney's International Terminal station is 17 minutes by express train. It costs $14.20 including the "gate pass". The train is frequently non-airconditioned, a standard commuter train. In contrast, to travel from KIX to the centre of Osaka, roughly 35 minutes on a dedicated, airconditioned, fast and very comfortable train (see Rapi:t photo in OP), is 1350 Yen, less than A$13.50. And they say Japan is expensive! (okay, 2 peaches for $9 is expensive, but they were nice peaches!  Smile) I've done both trips in a single day and I know which I prefer.



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User currently offlineNG1Fan From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 446 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 9885 times:

I rate the HKG Airport Express as the benchmark for other authorities to use:
-frequency: every 12 min
-ticket sales for arriving passengers: just after customs control or in the arrivals concourse (or use the Octopus card).
-group tickets available for a discount
-clean
-choice of three stations
-fast: no more than 24 min to HK Island
-infrastructure at the other end (waiting trolleys for luggage, hotel shuttles, taxis etc).
-in-town check-in

The only gripe: perhaps it closes too early: I've had to catch cabs on three occasions when arriving from SVO at 00.20 on Sat or Sun.

Most spectacular: Maglev to/from PVG.

Average trains I've used:
-Vienna
-Zurich

Needs improvement: Domodedovo Air Express. While the intentions are good, the trains are:
-infrequent (hourly during the afternoons),
-poorly signposted at the Paveletsky station
-rattly old carriages without air cond (can get stuffy during summer)
-platform without protection from the elements
-no dedicated luggage storage

NG1Fan


User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 9859 times:



Quoting UltimateDelta (Reply 6):
UltimateDelta

I'm not sure if the DTW transportation "device" qualifys as a train. There are no tracks.
Perhaps it does......heck, I dunno know..............
The ATL train to downtrain is much quieter then the Cleveland airport trains, Chicago CTA trains or NYC Subways.
The ATL train gets my vote in the USA.
safe



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User currently offlineDABZF From Germany, joined Mar 2004, 1202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9837 times:

My vote for the best goes for the PVG train!
To city: 1 hour minimum in a taxi or 8 mins (do I remember correctly?) by the MagLev.

[Edited 2008-08-01 13:03:30]


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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 9828 times:



Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 5):
The newer TerminaLink APM, on the other hand is a Bombardier CX-100 system, which are also found at many other airports such as ATL, DEN, SFO, SEA, and TPA.

For the APM between the terminal and the new CONRAC (consolidated rental car facility) at ATL, they're going with the Mitsubishi Crystal Mover like those used at SIN and HKG. I wonder if in the future they will replace the CX-100s with Crystal Movers.


User currently offlineTruemanQLD From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 1596 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 9826 times:

Best: MUC - Nice, easy, tidy
Worst: SYD


User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 796 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9795 times:

I´d count Frankfurt-Internatinal (FRA) with reasonable pricing and just 11mins from airport to Hauptbahnhof (central station) or 15 mins to the central shopping area in Frankfurt !
Trains have simple interior but more importantly they are always on-time running at 20 mins intervals.



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User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 4089 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 9768 times:

Airport express train, Oslo - Norway:





User currently offlineN776AU From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 770 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9753 times:

I love airport trains. Great thread  Smile
Best: Without a doubt ATL


Worst: DFW



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User currently offlineAYA333 From Finland, joined Aug 2008, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 9720 times:



Quoting Mortyman (Reply 17):
Airport express train, Oslo - Norway:

I think I have to agree with you. Oslo Flytoget is both comfortable and fast, and it also looks efficient and modern. Other nice airport train services include ARN and ZRH.

MUC.. Well, S-bahn from MUC to the city takes too much time. Otherwise the trains are ok - clean, nicely decorated and modern.



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User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6647 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 9708 times:



Quoting Srbmod (Reply 14):
For the APM between the terminal and the new CONRAC (consolidated rental car facility) at ATL, they're going with the Mitsubishi Crystal Mover like those used at SIN and HKG. I wonder if in the future they will replace the CX-100s with Crystal Movers.

Nope. The current CX-100s were delivered in 2002 (replacing the original C-100 vehicles delivered in the early 1980s), so they aren't that old. Also, the main control center will be upgraded to Bombardier's latest version, which means that the CX-100s will remain in service for years to come.



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User currently offlineHywel From Malaysia, joined Apr 2008, 813 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 9702 times:

Although not a train, the monorail at DUS is fun to ride Big grin

User currently offlineRedTailDTW From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 757 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 9679 times:



Quoting N776AU (Reply 18):

Worst: DFW

Wow, I always thought the SkyLink was one of the best ones. It is fast and efficient making connections a breeze. Now if you were talking about the TrAAin then I would understand....


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User currently offlineHorizonGirl From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 807 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks ago) and read 9676 times:

Quoting N776AU (Reply 18):
Best: Without a doubt ATL

I'm not sure if I'd call it the "best", but it is certainly my favourite!
Gotta love that chime when the doors close, it's been years since I've been on it
and I can still hear it.

Devon

edit- typo
 

[Edited 2008-08-03 21:16:52]


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User currently offlineElite From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2006, 2876 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9668 times:

The HKG one - very fast and reliable, very frequent, and you get to see some nice views along the way  Smile Also, the trains are pretty nice.

25 Vhqpa : The only Airport Rail system's I have used in Brisbane's Airtrain and Sydney's Airport Link. Out of these two I found SYD slightly better because you
26 Jeremy : I think CPH is the best. I also like AMS, GVA, FCO, and MAN.
27 Ualcsr : Yes!!! I thought it was a joke when I rode it. The "trains" look like toys and make incredibly tight and sharp turns. I'm OK with up and down movemen
28 Elite : Oh yes, I forgot about that one. Was on it just a week or 2 ago and it was much better than I had expected.
29 Navymmw : The Maglev for sure. When I went to china with my school when we got to shanghai we took the maglev from the airport to the city which was like a hour
30 Cubsrule : I'm a little surprised no one has mentioned ATL for airport-city connections. MARTA is great if you're headed downtown (though it's lousy if you're go
31 Babybus : The best are ZRH, GVA and CPH. All very convenient, comfortable, fast and cheap. I'd also put the Gatwick Express in there too, although I'd like it t
32 Post contains links Af773atmsp : The light-rail line to MSP is a great and fast way to get to downtown Minneapolis and the Mall of America. The airport tram at MSP is also pretty good
33 Cubsrule : Is that thing any faster than it used to be? I have nothing but bad memories from my days of flying NW a lot.
34 Af773atmsp : It goes pretty fast. The moving walkway is another option for flights at concourse C, but I would ride the tram if my flight was at concourse A or B.
35 Bartonsayswhat : i thought the trains at FRA were wonderful. two dedicated stations, one for s-bahn and what not, and at the other end were the platforms for ICE, went
36 Isitsafenow : Oh Cubbie......may I solicit your attention to reply #12? thankyouverymuch safe
37 Viscount724 : Not sure why people use the Gatwick Express. Regular trains that make 2 or 3 stops and operate about every 15 or 20 minutes are much cheaper and only
38 Cubsrule : Oh, Safe... have we established that I am illiterate? Thanks for the correction.
39 Isitsafenow : Naaw...ya just plain missed one........like I do .............DAILY!! Keep smilin'........................I am safe
40 Cubsrule : Believe me... I have much better things going on in my life to get worked up over than missing a post.
41 UltimateDelta : Okay, since DTW's thingy doesn't count, the ICE in Germany that stops at most major airports (FRA, MUC, STR) is really nice.
42 September11 : What about STL? I haven't been on it but I think you can take subway from STL airport to downtown St. Louis.
43 Cubsrule : If you manage to avoid getting mugged, it's delightful. I only take it at times when there are likely to be a lot of airport employees (especially TS
44 Leskova : Well... the connection is quick, that's true. Unfortunately, for some reason which is completely beyond me, the RMV always sends the old S-Bahn train
45 Qantasistheway : How about the Heathrow Connect? Runs on-time, but not as frequently as the express. Does stop a few times but is only 6 pounds instead of 15 p.p.
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