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User currently offlineCrox1 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 305 posts, RR: 3
Posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5123 times:
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Hi everyone,

I am looking to book a vacation next month in San Francisco, I will be flying in Y and would like your opinions on who to fly with.

I have found a couple of options, UA direct to SFO from LHR; on either 744's or 777's. According to seatguru, UA's 744 have no PTV, can anyone tell me if this is so, if it is then I will rule these out.

Another option I have found is flying NW from LGW to SFO via DTW on a 757 followed by an A320. What are NW's 757s like transatlantic?;( I flew on their DC10's and wasn't that impressed) and what are their 320's like for entertainment and service?. The return part of this flight is SFO - CVG - LGW on DL, this will be on a 738 followed by a 767. I have never flown DL so have no idea what their service, amenities or aircraft are like.

Which way would you go?, or do you know another routing that is cheap, unusual and offers great value for money.

Thanks
Andy  confused 


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User currently offlineHywel From Uganda, joined Apr 2008, 802 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5118 times:

What are the dates you're hoping to go? And how flexible are you with these dates? How much are you willing to spend?

User currently offlineStarAlliance38 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1445 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5116 times:



Quoting Crox1 (Thread starter):
Another option I have found is flying NW from LGW to SFO via DTW on a 757 followed by an A320. What are NW's 757s like transatlantic?;( I flew on their DC10's and wasn't that impressed) and what are their 320's like for entertainment and service?.

I don't know about NW's 757 transatlantic, but I flew the 320 from DTW-SEA back in 2004. There was no IFE, but IDK if they have changed.

Quoting Crox1 (Thread starter):
I have found a couple of options, UA direct to SFO from LHR; on either 744's or 777's. According to seatguru, UA's 744 have no PTV, can anyone tell me if this is so, if it is then I will rule these out.

I had the same dilema when I went from IAD-AMS. I saw that there was a chance to get a 767 that did or did not have IFE. Luckily, we got the screens Big grin. But from LHR-IAD, it was a 777 and we got the IFE screens. But, that's true, I don't believe that UA's 747s have IFE.

Have you tried to mix and match with BA, Virgin, and Alaska?



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User currently offlineCrox1 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 305 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5120 times:
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Hi,

I am looking to fly around the 22nd of Sept give or take 3-4 days and staying for 10-14 days.

Obviously I want to spend as little as possible but my maximum would be about £450 pp.


Andy



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User currently offlineHywel From Uganda, joined Apr 2008, 802 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5118 times:

The United 744's have overhead video monitors showing one movie at a time... no individual IFE in seat-backs.

If you want to go cheaply though, this is your best option.

Book the flights through www.flybmi.com on the BMI code-share, and the total is £355.70 (flying Mon 22nd Sept, back on Sat 4th Oct.)


User currently offlineTeo747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5110 times:



Quoting StarAlliance38 (Reply 2):
I don't know about NW's 757 transatlantic, but I flew the 320 from DTW-SEA back in 2004. There was no IFE, but IDK if they have changed.

NO IFE whatsoever on the NW A320 unless you bring it yourself!


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17067 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5089 times:

Do you consider to fly with BA or VS??


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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5078 times:

You could also try AC and go through Canada such as YYZ or YVR. They're not the cheapest but offer a good product. Plus, depending on your routing you'll have the A330, B777, B767 as Trans-Atlantic options and the A320, A319, E190 and CRJs as trans-border options. Just be advised though, the only food options on flights within North America are either bring your own or buy on board, but the Trans-Atlantic flights have free meals.

As for IFE, a good portion of the fleet has been retrofitted, such as the E190, A319, B767 and B777.



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User currently offlineBbinn333 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5061 times:

You could fly Zoom from LGW-SAN Then UA from SAN-SFO that wold we allot cheaper but if money is not the case then I would go on the UA 747 Directly to SFO .

User currently offlineCrox1 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 305 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5048 times:
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Quoting B747forever (Reply 6):
Do you consider to fly with BA or VS??

Price is a factor, so that rules out BA etc.

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 7):
You could also try AC and go through Canada such as YYZ or nWYVR. They're not the cheapest but offer a good product. Plus, depending on your routing you'll have the A330, B777, B767 as Trans-Atlantic options and the A320, A319, E190 and CRJs as trans-border options.

Again its down to costing, AC want an arm and a leg and more besides.

Quoting Bbinn333 (Reply 8):
You could fly Zoom from LGW-SAN Then UA from SAN-SFO that wold we allot cheaper but if money is not the case then I would go on the UA 747 Directly to SFO

Zoom is not an option I had thought about,thanks I will check it out.

Am still waiting to hear from anybody that has flown an NW 757 across the pond; and, anyone that has flown Delta on this route.

Thanks for all your suggestions, keep em coming

Andy



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User currently offlineSKORD From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 562 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5039 times:

I would think carefully about booking Zoom. They have a very small fleet which is worked very hard. When tech issues occur their schedule goes to pot, and their customer service appears to leave a LOT to be desired. Check out some passenger reports on www.airlinequality.com

User currently offlineBbinn333 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5037 times:



Quoting SKORD (Reply 10):
I would think carefully about booking Zoom. They have a very small fleet which is worked very hard. When tech issues occur their schedule goes to pot, and their customer service appears to leave a LOT to be desired. Check out some passenger reports on www.airlinequality.com

Zoom is still a great airline look at the low fares and the good comments though .


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5029 times:

What kind of pricing are you looking for?


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User currently offlineCrox1 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 305 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5006 times:
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Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 12):
What kind of pricing are you looking for?

As little as possible, somewhere in the region of £450, US$450 or CAN$500



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User currently offlineDavehammer From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 472 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4997 times:

£450 is roughly US$850 and CAN$900.

If price is a factor then go on UA all the way there. So much less hassle without the change, but the UA 747's don't have PTV's in Economy.


User currently offlineThrottleHold From South Africa, joined Jul 2006, 657 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4972 times:

How about Aer Lingus LHR-DUB-SFO?

User currently offlineBananaBoY From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1581 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4966 times:

I would recommend UA, plus they have the option to buy-up to Economy Plus for a small fee.

Stick with the 777 and you'll have 34-36in legroom and your own screen. Not AVOD and 6USD/3GBP for a drink, but at least you'll be comfortable.

The price quoted above found on the bmi flight is very good. Don't hang about!


Mark



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User currently offlineCoolfish1103 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 404 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4943 times:

UA is price is a factor, otherwise VS.

User currently offlineFlyKev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1383 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4922 times:
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Quoting SKORD (Reply 10):
I would think carefully about booking Zoom. They have a very small fleet which is worked very hard

It seems the Canadian arm is more trouble than the UK operations (JFK, SAN and FLL).
Still, I'd say take VS - Great airline all round imo.

Kev.



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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7546 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4898 times:



Quoting Crox1 (Thread starter):
I have found a couple of options, UA direct to SFO from LHR; on either 744's or 777's. According to seatguru, UA's 744 have no PTV, can anyone tell me if this is so, if it is then I will rule these out.

Thats correct no PTV's.

Quoting Crox1 (Thread starter):
Another option I have found is flying NW from LGW to SFO via DTW on a 757 followed by an A320. What are NW's 757s like transatlantic?;(

The 757 transatlantic offers more legroom than the 330's and seats just 144 in Y, no PTV's but several drop down overheard screens, have you looked out of LHR on NW?

Quoting Crox1 (Thread starter):
and what are their 320's like for entertainment and service?.

No IFE, you will get a drink service and food for purchase.

Quoting Crox1 (Thread starter):
The return part of this flight is SFO - CVG - LGW on DL, this will be on a 738 followed by a 767. I have never flown DL so have no idea what their service, amenities or aircraft are like.

DL is getting better most of their 738's will have PTV's and the 767's as well. NW offers more food over the ocean though.



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User currently offlineNQYGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4892 times:

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If your limit is £450.00, here is your answer.  Wink


User currently offlineBbinn333 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4845 times:

Here Are the results for Zoom

Passenger Listing/Pricing

Passenger /Item No. Amount Departure Taxes, Fees & Fuel Surcharges Total for

1. Passenger
£23.00 £183.06 £206.06
£48.00 £120.91 £168.91
£71.00 £303.97 £374.97

Amount Paid to Date £0.00
Final Amount £374.97

Then United From SAN-SFO

Total price: USD 174.00
Price breakdown
Fare rules
Mon, Sep 22, 2008 - San Diego, CA (SAN) to San Francisco, CA (SFO)
United 0522
Depart: SAN 5:45 PM
Arrive: SFO 7:14 PM Non-stop
Airbus A320
Booking class: L
No Meal Service
Fri, Oct 03, 2008 - San Francisco, CA (SFO) to San Diego, CA (SAN)
United 0383
Depart: SFO 12:39 PM
Arrive: SAN 2:09 PM Non-stop
Boeing 737-300
Booking class: T
No Meal Service

Final Total Translated In To Pounds On xe.com :£465.56


User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1691 posts, RR: 31
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4828 times:

Why don't you try AF: see the fare below and it's a non-stop 777 flight  Smile


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Your trip
Passenger : 1 Adult
Flight Departure Arrival Duration Stops
Aircraft Class
Departure flight Monday 22 September 2008
AF060 17:00 London, Heathrow (LHR) - United Kingdom 20:15 Los Angeles, Los Angeles Intl (LAX) CA - Usa 11h15mn non-stop,
777200 Tempo
N
Return flight Thursday 2 October 2008
AF061 20:25 Los Angeles, Los Angeles Intl (LAX) CA - Usa 14:40
+1 Day London, Heathrow (LHR) - United Kingdom 10h15mn non-stop,
777200 Tempo
N
change your flight selection
Price details Total £ 438.70
Price Taxes Passenger Total including taxes
£ 128 + £ 310.70 x 1 Adult = £ 438.70
Total : £ 438.70
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Fare information
Departure flight Amendments allowed before departure: a GBP 100 fee will apply.
Amendments allowed after departure: a GBP 100 fee will apply.
Return flight Amendments allowed before departure: a GBP 100 fee will apply.
Amendments allowed after departure: a GBP 100 fee will apply.
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User currently offlineTeo747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4824 times:

Quoting Crox1 (Reply 9):
Am still waiting to hear from anybody that has flown an NW 757 across the pond; and, anyone that has flown Delta on this route.

According to NW's website, the international 757s do not have PTVs. I have had very good experiences on the NW A330s across the pond, but it sounds like you need to depart from LGW on the 757 to get the best fare. If you're really wanting a PTV & IFE for the flight, I'd just go with the simple non-stop on UA with their 777s.

[Edited 2008-08-12 11:22:31]

User currently offlineBbinn333 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4820 times:



Quoting MH017 (Reply 22):
Why don't you try AF: see the fare below and it's a non-stop 777 flight  


Book online1organise 2select 3book 4your details 5confirm

Your trip
Passenger : 1 Adult
Flight Departure Arrival Duration Stops
Aircraft Class
Departure flight Monday 22 September 2008
AF060 17:00 London, Heathrow (LHR) - United Kingdom 20:15 Los Angeles, Los Angeles Intl (LAX) CA - Usa 11h15mn non-stop,
777200 Tempo
N
Return flight Thursday 2 October 2008
AF061 20:25 Los Angeles, Los Angeles Intl (LAX) CA - Usa 14:40
+1 Day London, Heathrow (LHR) - United Kingdom 10h15mn non-stop,
777200 Tempo
N
change your flight selection
Price details Total £ 438.70
Price Taxes Passenger Total including taxes
£ 128 + £ 310.70 x 1 Adult = £ 438.70
Total : £ 438.70
earn miles
Fare information
Departure flight Amendments allowed before departure: a GBP 100 fee will apply.
Amendments allowed after departure: a GBP 100 fee will apply.
Return flight Amendments allowed before departure: a GBP 100 fee will apply.
Amendments allowed after departure: a GBP 100 fee will apply.
pricing conditions
change your request contact us use your profile to book
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This Is For SFO Not LAX


25 ZKSUJ : What about NZ to LAX then transfering onto a UA plane to SFO? Would work if you are Star Alliance
26 MH017 : What did I do wrong here ? It clearly states LAX !!!
27 UPPERDECKFAN : Just that thread title is "London to San Francisco" and AFAIK LAX is about 500 miles from San Francisco.
28 Sbworcs : Not sure how NW are as an airline but found this on Ebookers - £348.23 flying via DTW
29 CO 757-300 : flew NW 757 TATL EWR -AMS-EWR in may - Y class seats were decent, a step up from domestic coach, i actually was pretty comfortable, (i'm 6'2), width
30 KU747 : If I were you I'd fly either BA or VS who ever is cheaper. nice seats, good service, Value for money...etc.
31 LACA773 : My choices on the LHR-SFO route are: 1) BA 2) VS 3) AF (via connection @ LAX) 4) CO or DL (with connection) 5) UA 6) NW or AA (with connection)
32 PlaneMad : I would take VS hands down. I have always enjoyed flying with them over BA Sam.
33 VikingA346 : BA is the best airline that runs this route, no question. VS is marginally behind with UA, NW, and AA trailing my miles. You'd be foolish not to fly o
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